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Post by hondobrode on May 29, 2019 20:09:40 GMT -5
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Post by shaxper on May 30, 2019 7:03:55 GMT -5
I really really wish they'd just sell the rights to Marvel at this point. New Gods could truly take superhero films to the next cinematic level, establishing a superhero universe with a compelling mythology at its center, but DC is probably just going to f*ck it up badly.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 30, 2019 9:43:00 GMT -5
Not a fan of Tom King. Not that I dislike his work...it just doesn't work for me.
Not a fan of the New Gods.
This does not set my world on fire.
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Post by brutalis on May 30, 2019 9:58:09 GMT -5
If King is going to "adapt" Kirby's work then a "maybe". But if King is going to "interpret" Kirby's work then I say: ummmmmmmmm no thank you. I passed on King's Mister Miracle because it was all talking with no action. BLECCCCCHHHH.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 19:19:27 GMT -5
This is one of the few things that can stop the bleeding of his leaving the ongoing Batman book.
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Post by rberman on May 30, 2019 23:19:41 GMT -5
This is one of the few things that can stop the bleeding of his leaving the ongoing Batman book. Isn't he just moving over to finish the Batman/Catwoman story in a new "Batman/Catwoman" book?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 17:31:25 GMT -5
This is one of the few things that can stop the bleeding of his leaving the ongoing Batman book. Isn't he just moving over to finish the Batman/Catwoman story in a new "Batman/Catwoman" book? I still feel like his run will be shorter than originally planned. And still disappointed that it won’t end in the same book where it started.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 22:16:58 GMT -5
Isn't he just moving over to finish the Batman/Catwoman story in a new "Batman/Catwoman" book? I still feel like his run will be shorter than originally planned. And still disappointed that it won’t end in the same book where it started. It will be shorter, it's 12 issue mini replacing the 20 issues he was planning on in the main series. He had announced #105 would be his final issue, now it's 85. Unless those 12 issues have extra pages (and thus a higher price tag), he will have to condense what he was going to do to fit into those 12 issues. -M
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Post by rberman on May 31, 2019 22:32:36 GMT -5
I still feel like his run will be shorter than originally planned. And still disappointed that it won’t end in the same book where it started. It will be shorter, it's 12 issue mini replacing the 20 issues he was planning on in the main series. He had announced #105 would be his final issue, now it's 85. Unless those 12 issues have extra pages (and thus a higher price tag), he will have to condense what he was going to do to fit into those 12 issues. Which might not be a bad thing... lots of modern comics could stand a 50% scrunching.
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Post by hondobrode on Jun 13, 2019 0:18:58 GMT -5
Not the biggest Tom King fan, but, I'm excited for New Gods on the screen and at least a decent DC writer helping with it.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 13, 2019 11:52:26 GMT -5
No dog in the hunt; but, so far, the only people I thought handled the material well, post Kirby, was the Justice League cartoon (and the Superman TAS episodes). They seemed to be able to zero in on the core of things, just in general, but with the 4th World, in particular.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 12:31:12 GMT -5
It would appear, that this film is likely to come out after Marvel's Eternals film - which I think is going to be a bit of a problem. They already have the similarity of Thanos and Darkseid to cope with, coming out with a "pantheon of gods" film, just after a Marvel "pantheon of near-gods" film, is going to be tricky job to sell to a general audience, I think. Dc/4th World die-hards will probably queue up in their slavering hordes, but not so sure the general public will want 2 similar-sounding films
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 4, 2019 16:02:35 GMT -5
It would appear, that this film is likely to come out after Marvel's Eternals film - which I think is going to be a bit of a problem. They already have the similarity of Thanos and Darkseid to cope with, coming out with a "pantheon of gods" film, just after a Marvel "pantheon of near-gods" film, is going to be tricky job to sell to a general audience, I think. Dc/4th World die-hards will probably queue up in their slavering hordes, but not so sure the general public will want 2 similar-sounding films That is indeed a possible worry, but the New Gods movie might also be served by Marvel's success with Thanos. To the viewers who have never heard of Darkseid but have seen the Avengers (which I imagine would be a lot of people), he could be introduced as "You know Thanos? Well this guy is the original".
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Post by berkley on Aug 13, 2019 22:33:26 GMT -5
Tom King? Hoo boy, that might be the kiss of death for me, as far as this film is concerned. I think his highly acclaimed Mister Miracle miniseries was a complete debacle and showed no appreciation at all of the underlying themes of the whole New Gods concept, but rather superimposed a set of extraneous concerns of his own on a few of the characters and and as such should have been an independent series with his own creations, IMO. Maybe the worst choice they could have made, from my POV.
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Post by rberman on Aug 19, 2019 15:29:51 GMT -5
If King is going to "adapt" Kirby's work then a "maybe". But if King is going to "interpret" Kirby's work then I say: ummmmmmmmm no thank you. I passed on King's Mister Miracle because it was all talking with no action. BLECCCCCHHHH. Are we talking about the same series? What it doesn't have are lots of escape sequences; the action is mainly limited to war. And it's real and ugly war, either all fury and rage or else banally workaday, with soldiers chatting casually as they kill babies.
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