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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 11, 2019 13:51:43 GMT -5
So this dude was Daredevil's FIRST # 1 villain appearing with Magneto like regularity for 12 solid issues.  Then he was killed in DD # 27, and while he came back he probably wouldn't make anyone's list of the top 20 Daredevil villains now-a-days. He was replaced by..... I'm honestly not sure? The Jester, maybe? The Owl? Until Bullseye and the Kingpin too over as DD's # 1 and # 2 villains during Frank Miller's run on the title. Anyway, the Masked Marauder who was Daredevil's most dangerous, most consistently recurring villain, a guy with a Goblin style personal connection to Matt Murdock and a snazzy suit is now all-but forgotten. So my question is: How often has this happened? Another example:  (Ok, I mostly wanted to make this post because I love, love, love, the Idol Head of Diabolu. Every month it would spit out a new monster for the Martian Manhunter to fight, and every month it was awesome! It seems like every other no-account Silver Age character has been dug up in the last couple years... why not the third greatest super-villain from '60s DC?*) So what other baddies were, at one point, the # 1 arch-villain for a well-known hero - but are forgotten today? * Behind the Kryptonian Thought Beast and the Super Moby Dick of Space, natch. |
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Post by badwolf on Jun 11, 2019 13:54:45 GMT -5
The shape of the Marauder's visor is interesting. Mimic had a similar one.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jun 11, 2019 16:29:27 GMT -5
Faceless, Mr. V, and The Vulture (all the same villain) were the focus of the final series of martian manhunter stories in House of Mystery, published back when air was new.  |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 11, 2019 17:30:55 GMT -5
Faceless, Mr. V, and The Vulture (all the same villain) were the focus of the final series of martian manhunter stories in House of Mystery, published back when air was new. Oh yeah, it turned into like a spy book, right? I've never read any of that. (It can't be as good as the Idol Head of Diabolu!) |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 11, 2019 17:40:13 GMT -5
The shape of the Marauder's visor is interesting. Mimic had a similar one. And the Cylons...  |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 11, 2019 17:44:54 GMT -5
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Post by foxley on Jun 11, 2019 18:09:33 GMT -5
Superman's original arch foe was the Ultra-Humanite: a bald scientific super genius.  Lex Luthor when he first appeared was the dictator of a small European nation bent on world conquest.  The story is that a mix-up in reference material resulted in Luthor being drawn as a bald scientific super genius, and the rest is history. Luthor became Superman's archenemy and the Ultra-Humanite vanished until the 1980s. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 11, 2019 18:27:18 GMT -5
I remember reading the early Adventures of the Phantom Stranger and it seemed that DR. 13 was his arch enemy. Boy did 13 seem like a tool.
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Post by profh0011 on Jun 11, 2019 18:43:19 GMT -5
After I saw the DAREDEVIL feature film, I remember thinking that if I were in a position to make a DD film, I'd base it on the Wally Wood and Gene Colan eras and have the villains be Stilt-Man and the Masked marauder. And have a lot more focus on acrobatics.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 11, 2019 20:24:40 GMT -5
As to the original question; I don't know....Paste Pot Pete? Good one, but even more-so the Wizard. Works much better as the Human Torch's arch-enemy (as he originally was) rather than yet another Mister Fantastic enemy. Side-note: I really like all the villains from at least the first year or two of Human Torch strips. A little goofier'n average, but great designs from Kirby and Ayers. A Marvel Universe that doesn't have room for the Painter of a Thousand Perils is a much smaller, sadder place than it could be. |
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Post by berkley on Jun 12, 2019 1:35:11 GMT -5
So this dude was Daredevil's FIRST # 1 villain appearing with Magneto like regularity for 12 solid issues. Then he was killed in DD # 27, and while he came back he probably wouldn't make anyone's list of the top 20 Daredevil villains now-a-days. He was replaced by..... I'm honestly not sure? The Jester, maybe? The Owl? Until Bullseye and the Kingpin too over as DD's # 1 and # 2 villains during Frank Miller's run on the title. Anyway, the Masked Marauder who was Daredevil's most dangerous, most consistently recurring villain, a guy with a Goblin style personal connection to Matt Murdock and a snazzy suit is now all-but forgotten. So my question is: How often has this happened? Another example: (Ok, I mostly wanted to make this post because I love, love, love, the Idol Head of Diabolu. Every month it would spit out a new monster for the Martian Manhunter to fight, and every month it was awesome! It seems like every other no-account Silver Age character has been dug up in the last couple years... why not the third greatest super-villain from '60s DC?*) So what other baddies were, at one point, the # 1 arch-villain for a well-known hero - but are forgotten today? * Behind the Kryptonian Thought Beast and the Super Moby Dick of Space, natch. I love those first 50 or 60 issues of Daredevil, still probably my favourite DD comics, but I have to admit that the Masked Marauder didn't make a big impression on me. I don't think it's a great costume design, though there's nothing egregiously wrong with it - just a bit generic, perhaps. He never seemed to inspire later writers, though that's not necessarily a reliable test for how good a character or an idea might be. I see Daredevil as an interesting test case of Stan's writing and character-creating, under almost laboratory conditions: because while Gene Colan was and is one of my all-time favourite artists, he was never really a co-writer or a creator of characters, the way almost everyone would agree Ditko and Kirby were. So I would imagine that almost all the new characters introduced into DD after Wally Wood's departure (not sure how Wood's collaboration with Stan worked, but we know he wrote and created his own characters elsewhere) were probably invented by Stan, apart from the visual design.
Could the Masked Marauder's failure to become an iconic DD adversary in the way the Green Goblin did of Spider-Man support the view that Stan wasn't really that good at coming up with compelling concepts and characters on his own, without the collaboration of visionaries like Ditko?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 1:58:20 GMT -5
Onomatopoeia  I only know him through Green Arrow and I think he is forgotten to the extent and I'm not sure why it is; but I feel that he is and that's why I just wanted include him.
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Post by brutalis on Jun 12, 2019 7:27:00 GMT -5
Ant Man foes during his Tales to Astonish days: they were tossing anybody and everybody at the Pymster hoping to create some enemies.
The Protector
Scarlet Beetle
The Porcupine (has he ever really been considered a true threat as a villain?)
The Living Eraser
El Toro
Madame Macabre
A couple managed to stick: Egghead and Human Top AKA Whirlwind.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 12, 2019 8:21:26 GMT -5
Porcupine stuck around for years, usually as cannon fodder alongside other third-tier baddies. He went out in a blaze of glory, though: his final appearance in Captain America #315 was a great story.
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Post by The Captain on Jun 12, 2019 8:53:20 GMT -5
Porcupine stuck around for years, usually as cannon fodder alongside other third-tier baddies. He went out in a blaze of glory, though: his final appearance in Captain America #315 was a great story. Cei-U! I summon the soul-stirring swan song! And IIRC, Cap put Porcupine's suit in Avengers Mansion with a sign that read something like "Honored Foe of the Avengers", paying a nice, simple tribute to a guy with a goofy gimmick who was in way over his head as a villain. |
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