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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 5:44:02 GMT -5
Yep, us Brits get books bigger. And glossier. We also have our steering wheels on the correct side of the car - and call them "petrol stations" rather than gas stations. Will you Americans start calling them petrol stations, please?
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Post by Confessor on Jun 27, 2019 6:06:22 GMT -5
Was the book a bit larger in the U.K.? Larger than a standard American comic, yes. They were magazine sized, so 210mm x 280mm. Yep, us Brits get books bigger. And glossier. Were they? I remember a few '70s Marvel UK comics...and plenty of other comics like The Beano, 2000 AD, and Battle Picture Weekly etc, having newsprint covers. Even if the covers were glossy, the newsprint interiors always seemed roughly the same quality as U.S. comics to me. We also have our steering wheels on the correct side of the car - and call them "petrol stations" rather than gas stations. Will you Americans start calling them petrol stations, please? Roquefort Raider isn't American. He's Canadian.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 6:08:11 GMT -5
Sorry, when I said glossier, I was thinking of late 80s. My mistake. The late 80s DC reprints were glossier (and an early 90s reprint even had a card cover).
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 27, 2019 6:32:15 GMT -5
I would suspect that those specific instances were the license holder selling reprint rights to Marvel UK, rather than DC. usually, the license holder owns the material outright, which is why Dark Horse could reprint the Marvel Star wars and Conan (and others). I even have a Star Wars t-shirt with a Marvel Comics cover, with the Marvel logo removed.. Methinks there's a whole topic that could be done about licensing "anomalies". Could be fun! One of my personal favourite stories is the brief, embarrassing saga f the Portman Publications horror titles. Portman were a British publisher who in the late 70's made a deal with Marvel allowing them to reprint material from Marvel's early 70's black & white magazines in two new titles, Castle of Horror and Tales of Terror, including the adventures of Blade, Morbius and the Zombie. Unfortunately, Marvel's licensing people in the States had completely overlooked the fact that they already had an entire British division of their own, and Marvel UK were furious when they found this other company based in Croydon competing directly with them, reprinting material they themselves were already looking to reprint, with the full permision of the New York office. The arrangement was swiftly curtailed.
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 27, 2019 6:36:20 GMT -5
Sorry, when I said glossier, I was thinking of late 80s. My mistake. The late 80s DC reprints were glossier (and an early 90s reprint even had a card cover). Actually, Marvel UK started using glossy paper for the reprint weeklies in late 1981, starting with Spider-Man TV Comic.
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 27, 2019 6:38:50 GMT -5
In late 1973, Marvel UK launched The Avengers: In Quebec many Marvel comics were translated and published by Éditions Héritage, in black and white but with the same format as in the United States... except for the Avengers. That one title had a noticeably larger size than the other titles, had Dr. Strange as a back-up feature, and the B&W art was enhanced with zip tones. I suspect that it may have been reproduced from the British version instead of the American one. Was the book a bit larger in the U.K.? This was almost certainly the case. The weird zip-tone shading was a Marvel UK innovation, and Dr strange was the regular back-up feature in the Avengers weekly for quite a while.
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Post by Confessor on Jun 27, 2019 8:33:47 GMT -5
Sorry, when I said glossier, I was thinking of late 80s. My mistake. The late 80s DC reprints were glossier (and an early 90s reprint even had a card cover). Actually, Marvel UK started using glossy paper for the reprint weeklies in late 1981, starting with Spider-Man TV Comic. On the covers, you mean? Not the interior pages surely? In the late '70s, Star Wars Weekly and Super-Spider-Man definitely had glossy covers, but newsprint interiors. Even as late as 1985 (which was roughly when I stopped buying it) Return of the Jedi Weekly still had glossy covers and newsprint interiors. The weird zip-tone shading was a Marvel UK innovation, and Dr strange was the regular back-up feature in the Avengers weekly for quite a while. If memory serves it used to be described in Marvel UK mags as "tones". In Star Wars Weekly it was credited to Howard Bender.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 27, 2019 10:58:17 GMT -5
Was the book a bit larger in the U.K.? Larger than a standard American comic, yes. They were magazine sized, so 210mm x 280mm. Yep, us Brits get books bigger. And glossier. Were they? I remember a few '70s Marvel UK comics...and plenty of other comics like The Beano, 2000 AD, and Battle Picture Weekly etc, having newsprint covers. Even if the covers were glossy, the newsprint interiors always seemed roughly the same quality as U.S. comics to me. We also have our steering wheels on the correct side of the car - and call them "petrol stations" rather than gas stations. Will you Americans start calling them petrol stations, please? Roquefort Raider isn't American. He's Canadian.Baja America.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 27, 2019 11:05:27 GMT -5
Yep, us Brits get books bigger. And glossier. We also have our steering wheels on the correct side of the car - and call them " petrol stations" rather than gas stations. Will you Americans start calling them petrol stations, please? Sounds too much like a restaurant for dogs. I preferred the old term of "filling station." Used to also be called "service stations;" but, that went out the window with self-service pumps. Ah for the days when you had attendants who would pump the gas and check over some of the basics for you. Usually had mechanics on-site, too. Now? Your lucky if they know how to change the syrup on the soda fountain. Sometimes progress goes in the wrong direction.
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Post by rberman on Jun 27, 2019 11:16:39 GMT -5
Yep, us Brits get books bigger. And glossier. We also have our steering wheels on the correct side of the car - and call them " petrol stations" rather than gas stations. Will you Americans start calling them petrol stations, please? Sounds too much like a restaurant for dogs. I preferred the old term of "filling station." Used to also be called "service stations;" but, that went out the window with self-service pumps. Ah for the days when you had attendants who would pump the gas and check over some of the basics for you. Usually had mechanics on-site, too. Now? Your lucky if they know how to change the syrup on the soda fountain. Sometimes progress goes in the wrong direction. New Jersey still forbids people to pump their own gas. I can only imagine that the mob has their hand in that bizarre state of affairs. www.nytimes.com/2018/01/05/nyregion/new-jersey-gas-pump.html
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Post by Confessor on Jun 27, 2019 11:26:15 GMT -5
Ah for the days when you had attendants who would pump the gas and check over some of the basics for you. I encountered this just outside of Salem, Massachusetts last year. So, it does still exist in some parts of the U.S. I pulled up at this service station to get some gas, and these two guys in matching outfits and baseball caps came trotting out and filled up my car for me. They were like a comedy act and were a great couple of clowns. Once they realised that my wife and I were English, they were utterly fascinated to hear about life in England and wanted to know which soccer teams we liked. When we explained that we didn't actually like soccer they were disappointed, but when we revealed that we were both Vegetarian, that disappointment turned to confusion and boggle-eyed wonder. They were pleased to hear that we liked Baseball and we going to see the Red Sox play the very next day though. It might sound funny, but to me, running into these guys was a mini-highlight of our trip to New England -- just a classic slice of old time Americana.
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Post by rberman on Jun 27, 2019 11:29:05 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 27, 2019 11:52:53 GMT -5
Yeah, there are pockets; but, corporations were quick to jump on the idea of saving payroll dollars and cutting staff to the bone. If you can train your customers to do it themselves, you don't need people. Retail stores are as bad if not worse (speaking as a retail manager who has had to serve a store full of people, on his own). When I was a kid, you could walk into any department store in America and have at least one clerk in every department to help you. Now, there may be one covering half the floor. The comedy series Are You Being Served? was pretty much how it was when I was a kid, in the 70s (minus the double entendres and Mr Humphries' walk).
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Post by Confessor on Jun 27, 2019 12:37:11 GMT -5
Yeah, there are pockets; but, corporations were quick to jump on the idea of saving payroll dollars and cutting staff to the bone. If you can train your customers to do it themselves, you don't need people. Retail stores are as bad if not worse (speaking as a retail manager who has had to serve a store full of people, on his own). Same thing happened in the UK to be fair. I'm just about old enough to remember there being some petrol garages in Buckinghamshire that would pump the petrol for you in the mid-70s. By the mid-80s that service was basically a thing of the past.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 27, 2019 13:15:45 GMT -5
Yeah, there are pockets; but, corporations were quick to jump on the idea of saving payroll dollars and cutting staff to the bone. If you can train your customers to do it themselves, you don't need people. Retail stores are as bad if not worse (speaking as a retail manager who has had to serve a store full of people, on his own). Same thing happened in the UK to be fair. I'm just about old enough to remember there being some petrol garages in Buckinghamshire that would pump the petrol for you in the mid-70s. By the mid-80s that service was basically a thing of the past. Well, yeah, corporate dominance was pretty muc parallel in the UK and the US, with conservative governments that were very friendly to big business interests.
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