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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jul 20, 2019 20:51:04 GMT -5
New Blade film. Mahershala Ali as Blade.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 2:34:20 GMT -5
Valkyrie is looking for a new queen in the plot. Portman will return as Jane Foster, who will be a female Thor.  Oh good, Natalie Portman is back - my totally favourite part of the first 2 Thor films  |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jul 21, 2019 3:33:17 GMT -5
New Blade film. Mahershala Ali as Blade. Ooh I didn't know that one. (Was it mentioned here? I get most of my comic/movie news here.) Cool. We need vampire flicks for the post-Twilight era. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 12:49:37 GMT -5
Got to admit, I'm not desperately excited about any of the films announced. Black Widow and Dr Strange, OK will probably see both; Shang Chi is going to need some selling, and Eternals is a hard pass for me; Thor - hmm, probably - I liked the Jane-Thor comics, but Portman-Thor is another tough sell to me
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jul 21, 2019 21:26:50 GMT -5
Got to admit, I'm not desperately excited about any of the films announced. Black Widow and Dr Strange, OK will probably see both; Shang Chi is going to need some selling, and Eternals is a hard pass for me; Thor - hmm, probably - I liked the Jane-Thor comics, but Portman-Thor is another tough sell to me What property would you have preferred they announce they're doing for a film? Or are you looking for more of the same? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 21:43:06 GMT -5
So excited about Shang-Chi and Thor 4.
I wish that the Captain Marvel sequel was coming sooner, but there'll be plenty of MCU movies and shows to keep us occupied until Phase 5.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 21, 2019 21:44:02 GMT -5
Got to admit, I'm not desperately excited about any of the films announced. Black Widow and Dr Strange, OK will probably see both; Shang Chi is going to need some selling, and Eternals is a hard pass for me; Thor - hmm, probably - I liked the Jane-Thor comics, but Portman-Thor is another tough sell to me Same here... I've got very little interest in any of the characters remaining from Endgame in their own movies.. especially prequels. I'd rather see them fade to the background and do other stuff. I also hate horror movies, so the fact that they're pitching Doctor Strange 2 as a horror pic makes put that in the 'meh' category for me instead of a sure see. Shang Chi could be interesting. No interest in Natalie Portman as Thor, really. It was a pretty good comic story, but I like seeing DIFFERENT stuff the movies. No Black Panther sequel? That seems insane to me. Hopefully that What if show will be in the same style as Into the Spiderverse (which I just watched... amazing!) I know they SAID they have a plan, but I wonder. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 0:56:10 GMT -5
What property would you have preferred they announce they're doing for a film? Or are you looking for more of the same? I think it's more superhero film fatigue - I wasn't impressed with most of phase 3 (Endgame, and to some extent Captain Marvel, being exceptions) and all the DC films have sucked donkey butt - so it's difficult to get too worked up about about the new announcements
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jul 22, 2019 3:40:41 GMT -5
Got to admit, I'm not desperately excited about any of the films announced. Black Widow and Dr Strange, OK will probably see both; Shang Chi is going to need some selling, and Eternals is a hard pass for me; Thor - hmm, probably - I liked the Jane-Thor comics, but Portman-Thor is another tough sell to me Same here... I've got very little interest in any of the characters remaining from Endgame in their own movies.. especially prequels. I'd rather see them fade to the background and do other stuff. I also hate horror movies, so the fact that they're pitching Doctor Strange 2 as a horror pic makes put that in the 'meh' category for me instead of a sure see. Shang Chi could be interesting. No interest in Natalie Portman as Thor, really. It was a pretty good comic story, but I like seeing DIFFERENT stuff the movies. No Black Panther sequel? That seems insane to me. Hopefully that What if show will be in the same style as Into the Spiderverse (which I just watched... amazing!) I know they SAID they have a plan, but I wonder. There is a Black Panther sequel. Feige said before he bounced he wished he had time to talk about it. Same with Captain Marvel 2, Guardians 3, and mutants. Expect more at D23. |
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Post by The Captain on Jul 22, 2019 10:33:10 GMT -5
I'll see all of them because I'm a junkie and need my MCU fix on a regular basis, but I can't say I'm super-excited about any of them, to be honest. This is the inevitable milking of the Marvel properties that was bound to happen after they blew through the big names in Phases 1-3 leading up to Endgame, and while I'm sure they will be aesthetically pleasing, they'll also likely have the substance of cotton candy.
If I had to pick one of the announcements I am anticipating more than the others, it would be Dr. Strange. Using Nightmare as the villain is going to allow them to do some cool, trippy visuals and while some are lamenting the horror direction, it's going to be more psychological than physical, because Disney isn't going gory or bloody.
Because of that last statement, the announcement I am most concerned about is Blade. The first two movies with Wesley Snipes were really good (the third is an abomination), but going the PG-13 route is not going to work for the character.
Beyond that, where do Shang-Chi and Blade fit into the MCU as a whole? Is Disney planning another big ramp-up to something like Avengers 4 and 5, or has that ship sailed and now we're just going to get movies and shows that exist in the same expanded universe but really have no central connecting thread?
If that is the case, I have concerns about the future of the MCU. One of the things that helped make the first three phases so successful was that they were leading to a defined endpoint, and each movie played its part in getting the audience to that place. Without a central focus, I can see the marginal properties getting lost in the "superhero fatigue" and the overall product suffering.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jul 22, 2019 20:50:20 GMT -5
I'll see all of them because I'm a junkie and need my MCU fix on a regular basis, but I can't say I'm super-excited about any of them, to be honest. This is the inevitable milking of the Marvel properties that was bound to happen after they blew through the big names in Phases 1-3 leading up to Endgame, and while I'm sure they will be aesthetically pleasing, they'll also likely have the substance of cotton candy. If I had to pick one of the announcements I am anticipating more than the others, it would be Dr. Strange. Using Nightmare as the villain is going to allow them to do some cool, trippy visuals and while some are lamenting the horror direction, it's going to be more psychological than physical, because Disney isn't going gory or bloody. Because of that last statement, the announcement I am most concerned about is Blade. The first two movies with Wesley Snipes were really good (the third is an abomination), but going the PG-13 route is not going to work for the character. Beyond that, where do Shang-Chi and Blade fit into the MCU as a whole? Is Disney planning another big ramp-up to something like Avengers 4 and 5, or has that ship sailed and now we're just going to get movies and shows that exist in the same expanded universe but really have no central connecting thread? If that is the case, I have concerns about the future of the MCU. One of the things that helped make the first three phases so successful was that they were leading to a defined endpoint, and each movie played its part in getting the audience to that place. Without a central focus, I can see the marginal properties getting lost in the "superhero fatigue" and the overall product suffering. Disney will have another big tentpole franchise tying everything together. Avengers namesake makes too much money too abandon ship. The big theory floating around is New/Young Avengers way down the line. Cassie Lang is already older. Kate Bishop will be in the new Hawkeye show. Shang Chi is coming. So there is potential. |
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Post by Randle-El on Jul 23, 2019 9:22:05 GMT -5
The Dr. Strange sequel being a horror film looks promising. As MRP mentioned, Derrickson comes from a horror background, so this fits right into his wheelhouse. And while I've expressed doubts about the Shang Chi film in the past... I'm a big fan of the Canadian sitcom Kim's Convenience and was happy to hear that Simu Liu has been cast to play Shang Chi.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jul 23, 2019 11:47:09 GMT -5
I am not so much super excited as I am super intrigued.
The TV shows should be interesting. Will they each start with one season and potentially go from there, if the initial seasons go well? Eternals are an interesting group and story...how will they adapt it so that the general public can appreciate the film? How will they tie them into the current MCU?
I agree that the heavy hitter heroes will likely be absent in this Phase but that doesn't mean we won't get some quality films. This Phase seems geared at the comic fan, with its array of mid to lower tier characters. They probably have to dial it back a bit and start laying groundwork for an epic Phase 5 which will likely see the FF and X-Men come to the screen, along with a new Avengers team and threat.
I also worry....are they gonna get too big too fast? What I mean by that is, it takes time to do a film. This Phase goes from now until the end of 2022. That means no Spider-Man or Avengers or Hulk until 2023 at the least. That is four years from now, potentially longer. I just wonder if they try to do too much and really space some movies out, if people will remember or still care about the story that was trying to be told. I already kind of felt these effects in Endgame, as it had been 4 years since Hawkeye and Black Widow had really interacted and I forgot they shared any sort of bond, which made the sacrifice of Black Widow seemed forced and weird to me. Plus it creates a timeline issue. If these next 3 years of movies take place in a short time, what is happening in Spider-Man's life in the meantime?
Maybe I am being too picky and worrying about minute, pointless details but that is my concern. Still intrigued but also concerned.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jul 23, 2019 11:50:03 GMT -5
I will add...suppose Eternals and Black Widow bomb or do poorly and take the interest out of the sails of general movie goers and some comic fans. People might just say "ah I will wait until the end when we see Thor and Avengers and people I care more about". It could really hurt the MCU.
Granted, I doubt this will happen. 23 films in and really, only one mega dud in my eyes (Iron Man 3). Others, like Thor Dark World and Incredible Hulk while not great, were still watchable films and were well done. Everything else has either been good to great to fantastic. So, I have faith but I think this Phase carries a lot of risk. However, if the payoff leads to doing the FF and X-Men right, it would be huge.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 15:10:22 GMT -5
I don't know about mega-duds, but there have been several pretty meh films along the way - Thor 2, Iron Man 2, Avengers 2, GotG2, Ant-Man 2 (hmm, I'm sensing a theme here), Black Panther - all of which have found a substantial audience, and even the ones which are generally regarded as pretty weak (the first 3 of that list), went on to major success afterwards (for all the weaknesses of IM3, I think it's worlds better than most of the 2s on my list)
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