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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 12:17:32 GMT -5
Unfortunately flooding the market with multiple titles still helps short term sales. DC cut back the number of titles they publish and Marvel increased theirs so they lead im sales.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Oct 25, 2019 12:21:25 GMT -5
Did Web of Spider-Man have a unique selling point? Only read 3-4 of these. Web was (and is) hard for me to ever get into. Outside of the first few issues, the covers on that run stunk in my opinion. ASM issues had catchy covers and so did PPTSS. Lots of great colour work. My theory is that these comics originated in the 60's and 70's respectively, when bright colours and fun were the mantra. Web debuted in the 80's, and comics were trying to be darker. So maybe that is why the covers were less eye catchy. That or it was the third (fourth if you include MTU) title devoted to Spidey so perhaps they just didn't care as much. I don't collect or hunt for Web issues outside of a few keys (and even those I did not enjoy).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 12:24:26 GMT -5
Must admit, when I first heard about Web of Spider-Man, I was hoping it would feature Spider-Man's webs and not Spidey himself. A comic where his webs became sentient and had their own adventures might have been fun!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 12:28:41 GMT -5
I like it when each title has its own unique tone rather than them being interconnected. Like the Byrne Superman titles. Superman was the big story solo title. Action was a team up title. And Adventures was more a street level title.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 12:32:13 GMT -5
A "different flavour" is always good, Michael. Did the Batman editors decide on a unique tone for their titles? As a kid, there seemed to be more emphasis on detective work in Detective Comics while Batman was less so. Not that I thought that way at the time, but in retrospect, it seems that way.
Byrne's Superman titles definitely had a different flavour. I mourned the loss of DC Comics Presents, it was a title that gave me my earliest comic reading memories. So at least the team-up tradition continued with post-Crisis Action Comics.
I know I can Google these things, but it's far easier to just ask. Was there a unique selling point for Superman: The Man of Steel?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 12:35:52 GMT -5
I don't know. That was after the Superman titles became interconnected and lost me as a reader.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 12:38:26 GMT -5
The connected titles plus replacement heroes caused me to drop several DC and Marvel titles in the 90s
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 12:42:45 GMT -5
The connected titles plus replacement heroes caused me to drop several DC and Marvel titles in the 90s Same here. Some titles seemed to avoid it. It was rare to see The Incredible Hulk doing that (I remember it crossed over with an issue of Web of Spider-Man). I didn't mind that as it was an excuse to pick up another title, but it was pure, unadulterated Hulk for the most part. Although the UK comic industry is different, there has never really been overlap here. Judge Dredd appears in 2000 AD and Judge Dredd Megazine, but they are their own entities. I know of someone who never buys the Megazine, he just sticks to 2000 AD.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 12:45:33 GMT -5
I don't mind buying an extra issue here or there when a crossover happens. I just don't want to commit to 4 titles every single month to get the whole story.
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Post by brutalis on Oct 25, 2019 13:12:39 GMT -5
I don't mind buying an extra issue here or there when a crossover happens. I just don't want to commit to 4 titles every single month to get the whole story. That was the whole reasoning though from the publishers, in having to "force" you into spending for all 4 weekly issues in order to read an entire story while putting more nickels and dimes into their greedy pockets. They understand we the buyers only have so much to spend and if they can monopolize our purchasing habits to their benefit then they will do so. Because in reality do we really need or want 4 comic books of the same character in the same month? I certainly don't...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 13:20:55 GMT -5
I certainly don't either, brutalis.
With everything in life, "less is more" has always been my philosophy. Not just with my entertainment habits (wrestling, comics, etc.), but in life. Do I enjoy a restaurant burger maybe once every 2-3 months? Hell, yeah. Would I want a restaurant burger every week? Hell, no!
Comic characters can be like the friend you see once or twice a month. And it's nice. But would you want to see that friend every week? Or twice a week? Okay, that's not the best comparison as I'm comparing real people to comic characters. That's not valid. But I am thinking along the lines of what we want in life.
I can put aside the financial considerations. If I won the National Lottery tomorrow, I'd be a millionaire. But I still wouldn't desire to have 4 comic books of the same character in a month.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Oct 25, 2019 13:42:05 GMT -5
I don't want to be "that guy" but I'll go ahead and be that guy.
Nobody is ever "forced" to buy funnybooks. They aren't food.
Taking, for example, the Triangle Superman era DC made a business/editorial decision to link those books so there was one a week. While individual consumers may not have liked that (as we can see above) one has to assume that it worked out for DC since they maintained that format for 11 years. So the cost/benefit would appear loss of a few people was made up for by the sales on other titles.
Big Two consumers get the books they support. And by and large they are a superstitious and cowardly lot. The completest/collector mentality leads the companies to multiple titles for characters that sell. And those books sell. I'm not casting aspersions...it took me a couple decades to get over following characters even if the book was awful.
This isn't a particularly new phenomenon, nor is it just a "Big Two" or superhero phenomenon. Dell and Gold Key put out a ton of different Duck books back in the 50s, 60s and into the 70s. On any given month you could get Donald Duck, Uncle Scrooge, The Junior Woodchucks, The Beagle Boys and various one-shots or seasonal books. Richie Rich, anyone? Sad Sack? Three or four Spider-Man books isn't unusual.
Which isn't to say that you have to like it. But it's a perfectly understandable business practice.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 14:11:41 GMT -5
Big Two consumers get the books they support. And by and large they are a superstitious and cowardly lot. Hey! I resent that. I am superstitious (aren't we all? Come on, who walks under a ladder). But I am not a cowardly person. I do understand what you mean, and, yes, from browsing the likes of GCD, there seem to have been a lot of multiple books for the likes of the ducks. I also remember seeing covers for numerous Lone Ranger books. Didn't his horse even have its own book? It is something we seem to have avoided here in the UK, but it's not a valid comparison as our comic industry is very different. Only Dredd has more than one title. But we don't have a big industry here. Other than The Beano, Commando and Dredd's two titles, the UK comic industry consists of licensed stuff (e.g. Thomas the Tank Engine) with 'free' plastic tat on the cover, reprints of US comics and, erm, that's about it.
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Post by beccabear67 on Oct 25, 2019 14:28:43 GMT -5
I seemed to sporadically buy copies of Amazing, Spectacular, and Team-Up, plus Marvel Tales (reprints) throughout the 1979-86 window. I do remember having Spectacular #41 straight through to #45, a rare case of the spinner racks having a title five times in a row, that one was tied in with the Fantastic Four comics I was following, and liking the variety of art...
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Oct 25, 2019 14:33:31 GMT -5
Big Two consumers get the books they support. And by and large they are a superstitious and cowardly lot. Hey! I resent that. I am superstitious (aren't we all? Come on, who walks under a ladder). But I am not a cowardly person. I do understand what you mean, and, yes, from browsing the likes of GCD, there seem to have been a lot of multiple books for the likes of the ducks. I also remember seeing covers for numerous Lone Ranger books. Didn't his horse even have its own book? It is something we seem to have avoided here in the UK, but it's not a valid comparison as our comic industry is very different. Only Dredd has more than one title. But we don't have a big industry here. Other than The Beano, Commando and Dredd's two titles, the UK comic industry consists of licensed stuff (e.g. Thomas the Tank Engine) with 'free' plastic tat on the cover, reprints of US comics and, erm, that's about it. Yep. The Lone Ranger, Tonto and Silver all had comics at one point.
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