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Post by UKMikey on Jan 11, 2020 16:19:03 GMT -5
I'm not sure Marvel's event obsession impacting on all its books are isolated examples. There was a time when Venom's solo book might have remained immune to the big X-events, Spidey events, etc. It seemed that way at times. Now we have Venom, hardly the most cosmic/universe-trotting of characters, having three of his issues impacted by "War of the Realms". DC aren't entirely blameless. But I have been able to read their books without all of them being part of a big event. Some may be, but I have read quite a few Aquaman comics over the last 4-5 years, most of which seem unaffected by whatever big event DC has going on. I did buy Justice League vs. Suicide Squad (in trade form) about a year ago. It reprinted the following: JUSTICE LEAGUE VS. SUICIDE SQUAD #1-6 SUICIDE SQUAD backup story of #8 SUICIDE SQUAD #9-10 JUSTICE LEAGUE #12-13 That's not unwieldy to me. It's manageable and self-contained. Had Marvel been running DC, I suspect the story would have been in every comic imaginable, even those not suited to it. I mean, does Venom, a street-level anti-hero, really need to be part of a cosmic story involving various realms? I find DC more manageable in that sense. All the stuff pertaining to the JLA battling the Suicide Squad was all in that one trade for me - at an affordable price. Are there any DC books besides Wonder Comics I can read without getting involved in Year Of The Villain right now? On the other hand I can plough right ahead with Immortal Hulk with nary a crossover in sight. I don't think it's all the books. War Of The Realms is well and truly over now at any rate and I may be wrong but I don't remember say Fantastic Four or Strikeforce being all caught up in the event. Tie-in book Punisher Kill Krew was itself self contained and didn't impact on the main book. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 16:24:27 GMT -5
There will, of course, always be exceptions.
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Post by UKMikey on Jan 11, 2020 16:28:19 GMT -5
There will, of course, always be exceptions. On both sides. I wish I could get back into Supergirl but with her being infected by Batman Who Laughs, it looks like I'll have to read Batman/Superman to find out why. I hope I'm not done with her title as I've been enjoying it up until now. |
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Post by lordyam on Jan 29, 2020 5:43:51 GMT -5
Honestly I can kinda see where you're coming from. Comics are an endless middle at this point. They need to have a beginning a middle and end or it's hard to care. Secret Wars 2015 was really a good conclusion and if they'd rebooted the entire universe from there it would have been great. Doom lets go of his hatred, the universe is reborn and the Fantastic Four ride off into the multiverse.
The MCU understands that you can't drag shit out. That's why they killed off Tony and wrapped up Steve and Bruce. Their arcs ended and the world really feels like it will never be the same.
Doomsday Clock was good because it was meta and it's point was more that even with all the bullshit reboots Superman will ALWAYS be a symbol of hope and inspiration. That's a message people need (especially since a lot of people STILL equate darkness with maturity)
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 1, 2020 23:45:29 GMT -5
I'm not sure the MCU 'understands' as much as the actors were ready to move on... I like your optimism though  |
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Post by earl on Feb 5, 2020 20:23:37 GMT -5
I tend to think you get more bang for your comic reading buck buying back issues and trades. Most of these modern super hero books read better in big collections anyway.
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Post by rberman on Feb 12, 2020 14:19:20 GMT -5
I'm not sure the MCU 'understands' as much as the actors were ready to move on... I like your optimism though Also, the actors were visibly aging. I bet they plan to use a character for ten years, hop to other characters for ten years, then cycle back to the first one with a new actor. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 17:46:29 GMT -5
The only new comics I have bought recently were a few DC Black Label's, Facsimile's and True Believer's...so mostly reprints. I still buy Trades and most of those (except for Batman) consist of classic stories pre-1990's mainly. I have not bought a main DC or Marvel floppy in decades, too expensive per issue, long drawn out stories with multiple cross-overs and tie-in events, often not enough action, too continuity driven, etc...etc...etc. I miss the days when comics could be serious but still fun.
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Post by badwolf on Feb 17, 2020 19:30:19 GMT -5
I just buy the facsimiles...and of course reprint collections.
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 26, 2020 13:45:59 GMT -5
I've been buying some of the facsimiles, got a 2020 Marvel calendar with one order for free. Facsimiles are equal so far between Marvel and DC, but Marvel is sure picking some common seeming newer comics to reproduce (ones I have the originals for) so that DC could easily overtake them in my spending. I haven't bought a single True Believers release, I just don't like them for some reason. Otherwise a couple of TwoMorrows mags and a second print of one Shirtless Bear-Fighter is all that counts as new on release for me.  |
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Post by berkley on Feb 27, 2020 1:41:13 GMT -5
I've been buying some of the facsimiles, got a 2020 Marvel calendar with one order for free. Facsimiles are equal so far between Marvel and DC, but Marvel is sure picking some common seeming newer comics to reproduce (ones I have the originals for) so that DC could easily overtake them in my spending. I haven't bought a single True Believers release, I just don't like them for some reason. Otherwise a couple of TwoMorrows mags and a second print of one Shirtless Bear-Fighter is all that counts as new on release for me. I thought I would buy some of those True Believers reprints because they're ridiculously expensive as back-issues, but every time I look at one the glossy paper and glaring colours are too much of a turn-off for me. |
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Post by The Captain on Feb 27, 2020 10:45:33 GMT -5
I've been buying some of the facsimiles, got a 2020 Marvel calendar with one order for free. Facsimiles are equal so far between Marvel and DC, but Marvel is sure picking some common seeming newer comics to reproduce (ones I have the originals for) so that DC could easily overtake them in my spending. I haven't bought a single True Believers release, I just don't like them for some reason. Otherwise a couple of TwoMorrows mags and a second print of one Shirtless Bear-Fighter is all that counts as new on release for me. I thought I would buy some of those True Believers reprints because they're ridiculously expensive as back-issues, but every time I look at one the glossy paper and glaring colours are too much of a turn-off for me. The True Believers reprints aren't great, but they do serve a purpose. I've bought some of them so I can read old stories when I can't begin to afford the original books (such as early ASM), and in the case of a book like New Mutants #98, I was able to sell the original for over $400 but still have the story in my collection if I ever am so inclined to read it again. |
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Post by brutalis on Feb 27, 2020 13:38:13 GMT -5
I thought I would buy some of those True Believers reprints because they're ridiculously expensive as back-issues, but every time I look at one the glossy paper and glaring colours are too much of a turn-off for me. The True Believers reprints aren't great, but they do serve a purpose. I've bought some of them so I can read old stories when I can't begin to afford the original books (such as early ASM), and in the case of a book like New Mutants #98, I was able to sell the original for over $400 but still have the story in my collection if I ever am so inclined to read it again. Yep, True Believers is my spare copy drag around and read anywhere issues and issues that are out of my cost range. The only nice thing about the reprints is the lack of ads found inside and that the better printing can show off the artwork in a stronger way than newsprint ever did. It does take some getting used to the bolder color but i can live with that for the cost and convenience. |
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Post by beyonder1984 on Mar 9, 2020 18:01:12 GMT -5
It isn't, but it was more subtle then, right? Secret Wars II. which was reprinted in full in the UK, seems to have really set the complexity ball rolling. I felt like I was missing out when I read those issues (which reprinted the main series). You couldn't even read Secret Wars II now as a newcomer, it's too tied up in 80s continuity to make much sense on its own. Crisis and Secret Wars were simplicity itself (relatively speaking) as far as tie ins are concerned. Technically true but both SW and Crisis had crossovers and checklists for completists (that would have been me at the time). CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS, for example, had major subplots which wrap up in other books, especially Green Lantern and The Flash, not to mention how abruptly the character focus shifts from issue to issue. Each maxi-series after that got worse and worse. SWII was 1985-1986. The industry was already on the path it where it has ended up today, thanks to Secret Wars 1, with a footnote to Contest of Champions which gave Marvel the idea of an ultimate team up mini-series. It's been this way for around 35+ years. It's not new. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 8:06:05 GMT -5
On more than one occassion, I said I am done with the relaunches...it just got tiresome, and I wasn't buying them as 'new issues' anymore.
And then...I'd see a bundled lot on Ebay with the same books and wind up winning auctions at a fraction of the cover price, sometimes 25%-30% of cover. So that's how I built the current Amazing Spider-Man series....whatever volume it is.
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