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Post by MWGallaher on May 31, 2020 9:34:24 GMT -5
I do find it interesting that Fox plays up the Spectre as some sort of well-traveled cosmic tourist. We've seen a little of that in the solo feature, but not in quite a while, and usually if not always incidentally ("I'll just drop this thug to cool off on this distant planet I explored in some untold adventure I had once"). Maybe if Popp hadn't usurped the spotlight we'd have seen more of that sort of thing, which might have allowed for some more credible threats and more fantastic and unbridled demonstration of the Spectre's supernatural abilities.
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Post by chadwilliam on May 31, 2020 22:22:53 GMT -5
I like that too, but what I liked even more was The Spectre's admission that he simply didn't know much about Pluto. All too often, the good guy has the precise knowledge required to extricate himself from a trap (or to simply provide some conveniently delivered bit of exposition) but here he's forced to go into a situation blind. Still, kind of odd that he's familiar with the farthest reaches of space, but one of the nine planets in our solar system (as of 1942, at any rate) is a blank? Odd, but even lacking info on something which should be relatively open to him is a nice little quirk of itself.
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Post by chadwilliam on May 31, 2020 22:27:52 GMT -5
More Fun Comics #85 (Nov 1942) " When Money Talks!" Synopsis: Despite having a wife and two children, bank teller Hiram Mink has decided to quit his job and has resolved to "spend all my dough and have a good time!" Present for this admission, is Percival Popp who attempts to talk Mink out of his reckless whim but gets nowhere. Although Jim Corrigan concludes that there is nothing that neither he nor Popp can do about it, The Spectre reckons that this is a job for him. "If I could make Hiram see his life in glamorous terms, in exciting glimpses... if I could make him like his job! That's my task!" I'm going to take a moment and confirm that this actually is The Spectre's task. From More Fun Comics #52: "You shall remain Earthbound battling crime on your world with supernatural powers, until all vestiges of it are gone!"
eh, close enough. So The Spectre wakes Popp that evening and tells him of his intentions. Why he even needs Popp's assistance given how much of a pest he knows him to be is beyond me. The two head to Mink's place where Spec informs his partner over the teller's sleeping form, "when he wakes, we will take him to see some of his old clients". OK, so the caption of the next panel reads "When the clerk wakens..." but no indication is given as to how long The Spectre and Popp had to wait for that to happen. Even ten minutes sounds like an interminable amount of time to just stare a sleeping guy and wait for him to wake up. What if he slept for another four hours? Did The Spectre and Popp just stand there the whole time? Why doesn't he just wake him himself? Is The Spectre just too kind hearted to do something like that or is the sight of Hiram Mink slumbering just too adorable a scene for him to want to interrupt? Ugh. This story is already just so, so stupid already. So like some lovable Ghost of Christmas Eve, The Spectre takes Mink and Popp to pay a visit to a farmer the clerk is already acquainted with due to his habit of depositing five dollars a week into his bank account. Showing Mink how Charley Ruffle now leads a happy existence tending to his land and selling eggs to the government to give to soldiers, The Spectre convinces his charity case of how much the farmer enjoys the fulfillment "understand[ing] his job and the relation is has to his fellow man", but Mink remains unconvinced. "That's OK for you to say but you like farming". The next day at his boring, humdrum job, Mink recognizes a counterfeit ten dollar bill. Sensing the excitement to be had in tracking the bill back to its source, The Spectre intervenes. Shrinking himself to microscopic size, The Spectre - and I'm just telling you what happens - stands on the counterfeit bill - look, there's no way around this part of the story, I wish there were, but it explains the title of this tale so I have to recount what happens - and impersonates - look, I'm sorry, OK? I'm sorry for this - what the bill might say if it could talk. Yes. That's what The Spectre does - he becomes a ventriloquist for a $10 bill just so he can tell Mink things the exact same things as that bill that he could have told him as The Spectre. "I came from the Oregon wood, was made into wood pulp, then paper, then sold to Monk Johnson --- I emerged from his printing presses - a counterfeit bill!" I bet he did this in a squeaky Mickey Mouse voice too. I have to go dunk my head into a sink of ice cold water right now before I can continue. I'll be right back. OK, I'm back. So Popp is spotted by some of Johnson's men since the grim goofball has chosen Monk Johnson's warehouse to do his little comedy routine. No matter though, since The Spectre charges their headquarters and beats up Johnson and his men. Having witnessed all of this, Mink concedes that his job does have its share of excitement what with all the bills having their own tales to tell (though this seems to apply only to the counterfeit ones). Nevertheless, Mink has resolved to quit his job and go on a spending spree and he hasn't changed his mind thus far. With the following day being Mink's last, Percival Popp wonders just how he can prevent this teller from going through with his plan. An opportunity falls into his lap when he spies a customer withdrawing his full balance from his account through Mink's window and explaining that he intends to "have myself a fling!" Popp tells The Spectre, The Spectre kidnaps Mink, and the trio watch as Mink's customer blows of all his money on the roulette wheel at some casino. They then watch as said individual gets drunk and kicked out of a bar and into the street. Then, they watch as the drunken, broken lout is given a gun by some guy (really - no explanation for who this guy is is given, he's just a guy in what looks to be a prison uniform standing in some alley advising this guy how to steal money). So the guy Mink, Popp, and The Spectre are watching attempts to hold up a pair of guards as they pick up some money from some place (the story doesn't explain where and honestly, I don't really care at this point) and the guards rush him and beat him up. That guy goes to prison and Mink decides to invest his savings wisely instead. The end. Thoughts: What a terrible story. If Popp had pulled that whole "I'm going to pretend to be a living, breathing ten dollar bill" to scare this guy straight stunt, I would have winced and then reassured myself that this stupidity is intended to remind us of how incompatible The Spectre is with his biggest fan. Seeing The Spectre do this however is simply appalling. Was Gardner Fox being held prisoner somewhere at this time and writing stories this awful as a means of getting word out about the trouble he was in? Is The Spectre embarrassing himself a clue of some sort? That bit about Oregon wood, the ten dollar bill, and The Spectre acting like a jackass - was Fox perhaps sending a message to readers to send help to 10 Jackass Drive in Oregon? So how would I fit this into continuity if I were Roy Thomas? Here's what I'd come up with - The Spectre doesn't want to be The Spectre anymore. Although he knows that Corrigan has gotten the normal life he always wanted following the events in More Fun Comics #75, he is equally aware that as the ghost half of this partnership, he's gotten the short end of the stick. Corrigan is allowed to live, love, and do whatever he wants - in fact, last issue established that Percvial Popp is no longer interested in hanging out with him since he's now The Spectre's partner. In addition to being lumbered with Popp, The Spectre is still expected to eradicate every trace of crime down to its last atom - an impossible task. The Spectre can't possibly live up to this responsibility so what does he do? Make a mockery of himself so that he'll be recalled by The Voice. In the past, we've seen ol' Spec give a reckoning of his achievements and we've seen The Voice compliment him on his progress thus far. What if, however, The Spectre decides to make himself look incompetent? Would The Voice give him his eternal rest then? This could explain his sudden eagerness in working with Popp and I know that if my boss asked me what I'd been up to today and I told him "I watched a guy sleep for four hours" I'd likely get close to being fired. Perhaps that's what The Spectre is going for. So many problems with this tale. Why does The Spectre even care about Hiram Mink? If it's a case of not wanting to see anyone ruin their life, then why does he just stand by and watch that other guy do all the things Mink intended to do? Why is his life so disposable and not Mink's? Isn't showing Mink how exciting the story behind counterfeit bills counterintuitive? I mean, isn't he essentially saying that Mink's job is exciting only when it's going the way it shouldn't be? And what's up with Popp's expression in the final page of this piece? Is he reacting to The Spectre's goofy little "The grass is always greener..." phrase or is he reacting with skepticism to the proclamation in the next issue box that there will even be a next issue after this? Sadly, Percival, the answer is 'yes'...
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Post by MWGallaher on Jun 1, 2020 6:50:26 GMT -5
Truly the most shocking Spectre story yet. I think Fox was going for an Eisner-esque human interest tale, but just completely botched it by not having an instant of genuine emotional response by the characters or in the reader. Maybe Fox was considering making Spec a guardian angel type for random characters every episode? Or was he just continuing to flounder, trying to find a way to make this into a completely inoffensive, unchallenging strip? (This is at least the second "Hiram" we've seen in the strip--was that a go-to character name for Fox?) But you know, in a way, this particular story does resonate a bit in the immediate national social/political/cultural environment: I suppose many of us are feeling tempted to withdraw our savings and blow this tumultuous scene in fear of there being not much of a future to look forward to. I don't know if that "chuck it all" feeling was going around during the depths of WWII, but the Spectre's need to urge people to stay on the job suggests that Fox thought it was.
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Post by berkley on Jun 1, 2020 19:48:07 GMT -5
The whole premise brings to mind the Monty Python sketch about the accountant who wants to become a lion-tamer.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jun 2, 2020 11:49:17 GMT -5
The whole premise brings to mind the Monty Python sketch about the accountant who wants to become a lion-tamer. Hiram Mink: Money! Money! That's all I see! What a dull, dreary job this is! I wish I could change it - get out and see the world! Herbert Anchovy: I've been an accountant for twenty years! I want a new job - something exciting - something that will let me live! Exciting? No, it's not - it's dull, dull, dull, my God, it's dull!
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Post by chadwilliam on Jun 2, 2020 12:05:34 GMT -5
Truly the most shocking Spectre story yet. I think Fox was going for an Eisner-esque human interest tale, but just completely botched it by not having an instant of genuine emotional response by the characters or in the reader. Maybe Fox was considering making Spec a guardian angel type for random characters every episode? Or was he just continuing to flounder, trying to find a way to make this into a completely inoffensive, unchallenging strip? (This is at least the second "Hiram" we've seen in the strip--was that a go-to character name for Fox?) But you know, in a way, this particular story does resonate a bit in the immediate national social/political/cultural environment: I suppose many of us are feeling tempted to withdraw our savings and blow this tumultuous scene in fear of there being not much of a future to look forward to. I don't know if that "chuck it all" feeling was going around during the depths of WWII, but the Spectre's need to urge people to stay on the job suggests that Fox thought it was. My first reaction when realising that this would be another money-centric episode in the life of Percival Popp was "Again? Another story where Popp gets involved in someone going on a spending spree? This is the third one so far!" In hindsight, I wish Fox had just recycled that idea again since his style here isn't appropriate for human interest tales. This one reminded me of the Batman story " While the City Sleeps" from Batman #30. In this yarn, Batman and Robin pay a visit to some of the denizens of Gotham who keep the city running at night - the doctors, nurses, switchboard operators, etc. - who are vital to the community running smoothly and safely. Fox has selected such an unimportant, unbelievable, and unsympathetic figure in the form of Hiram Mink that when he later tosses in another character into this mess exactly like him and deals him a harsh fate, it only draws attention to how little you care about Mink that had Fox reserved that comeuppance for him instead, it wouldn't have affected your feelings in the least. Bill Finger was known for providing his artists with photographic references to enhance their storytelling or to simply help them out. I feel like someone is giving Fox crude drawings of stick figures and saying, "Here's your next character".
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Post by chadwilliam on Jun 4, 2020 0:27:56 GMT -5
More Fun Comics #86 (Dec 1942) "The Man Who Knew All the Angles!""Just how big I really can grow ought to be very interesting to you - because it all depends on you as to how far we go!"Synopsis: Though little attention is paid to the straggly weathered soul entering a tavern in Panama, when he identifies himself as Smokey Storey, ears prick up. Though now a derelict who has clearly seen better days, his reputation is such that when a young loudmouth boasts openly about a crime for which "I've got every angle figured out", he's offered a chance to tell his tale. "Yessir, I was a good crook! That was before I met The Spectre, though!" Dismissing The Spectre as a myth, the youngster nevertheless listens to Storey's tale, presented here in flashback. Who was Smokey Storey before he became this sad castaway of a man? Well, let's go back to a period referred to in a caption only as "those days" (which couldn't be all that long ago seeing as the period we'll be visiting has Percival Popp working with Jim Corrigan)... Storey did dirty work for wealthy people by killing off anyone his clients wanted done away with. Lucrative business though it was, he eventually ran afoul of Corrigan and Popp when the pair begins investigating one of Storey's rich clients named Elerson. Warned of this interference by that client, Storey sets out to frame a cashier for Elerson's crime of theft while also arranging to have him bumped off. Unfortunately, Storey's gunman, Trigger attempts that murder at the same time Corrigan and Popp pay the cashier a visit (looks like Storey did too good a job with his frame-up since the pair are convinced "the cashier's our man". Just as Corrigan enters he room, he spots Trigger on the fire-escape ready to do in his target, and lets The Spectre take over. Growing to gigantic size and seizing Trigger in his hand, The Spectre subjects his prisoner to the freezing temperatures of space and the intense heat one is exposed to when forced to re-enter Earth's atmosphere at tremendous speeds. Naturally, Trigger confesses everything. Though the name Smokey Storey means nothing to The Spectre ("Either he's so clever he isn't known to the police, or he's a beginner") he turns his attention on the criminal's home only to be greeted with a boobytrapped room of moving knives which cut through his body. Thankfully, as the grim ghost notes "If I wasn't in my supernatural state, I'd certainly be done for". So, no beginner here. Proceeding further into the house, The Spectre is ambushed by some of Storey's men who don't stand a chance against the hero. However, in the time it takes Spec to mop up the room with the hoods, Storey manages to toodle-oo his way out of there through a door concealed in his floor. Both men remind themselves that it will be only a matter time before they meet again. With that in mind, Storey plans his next angle - frame Percival Popp for tipping that cashier off that Corrigan was going to pay him a visit and plant money and a letter of thanks in the squirt's home supporting that allegation. When Corrigan is advised of Popp's double-dealing, he pays his partner a visit and discovers this evidence in his mattress. Although convinced of his innocence, Corrigan is compelled to arrest Popp due to it being his duty as a lawman. On the other hand, there's nothing stopping The Spectre from setting him free which he does promptly by busting him out of jail and offering him a chance to help. Whatever plan The Spectre has come up with is going to have to wait a moment. The next scene has a lookout on Popp's home announcing to Storey that Popp has somehow broke out of prison and is pacing his room frantically. Deciding that a desperate man with information on the police could come in handy, Storey has Popp brought before him. Storey's idea seems ready to bear fruit when Popp expresses his anger at the police for accepting his guilt so readily and suggests that his captor bring the District Attorney before him so that he can reveal all the hush money he's paid the super-cop to "cover up for crooks in his employ!" And so the D.A. is kidnapped. Or rather, The Spectre disguised as the D.A. is kidnapped. Once he's brought before Storey, The Spectre reveals his true form and with Popp fighting by his side, beats up his men. Storey himself escapes through a window only for the tale to pick up in the present day with the criminal adding that he was then captured by the police, served his time, and is now a down on his luck derelict. With his story at an end, his audience decides against pulling whatever job they had schemed to. Thoughts: Though The Comics Code wouldn't take effect for well over a decade at this point, it's interesting to see one of its restrictions in place here - that villains must be punished by issue's end. This tenet manifests itself in the way it's rather clumsily established that even though Storey begins and ends this adventure as a free man (even escaping from The Spectre at the end of his flashback) he was later caught by the police and jailed as explained by an obviously tagged on 'and that's how that story ended. Oh, and by the way, the police caught me shortly thereafter and I served my full sentence in case anyone's wondering'. Nevertheless, this wasn't a bad tale and has quite a bit going for it. Storey is presented as a clever and competent crook. Smart enough to get out of a jam and clever enough to tie up any loose ends unless those ends are being held by a supernatural force. While a roomful of knives presents no more of a challenge to The Spectre than ordinary bullets, the fact that Fox makes the effort to jazz up Storey's offense on The Spectre rather than just throw hoods at him for the ghost to rather blandly punch is appreciated. In fact, even when The Spectre does engage in the humdrum sort of fisticuffs he's been resorting to far too frequently within these pages, things are spiced up a bit when our hero knocks one of Storey's thugs through the transom of his boss's door (a moment hurt by having the thug quip 'Here I come, ready or not!' as his head smashes the glass). Also nice to see a criminal turn his attention towards The Spectre when he learns of his involvement in his schemes rather than continue as planned. Having this realization occur immediately after The Spectre remark that he can wait his enemy out if he has to, deftly illustrates how both the good guy and bad guy share an understanding of what role they play in this little game. A similiar juxtaposition is presented in the way that Corrigan and The Spectre react to Popp's frame-up. Despite being the same person (I suppose) Corrigan feels obligated to toss his partner in prison when he's discovered with Storey's bribe since he's a police officer who has been placed in that position. Knowing that he's innocent however, The Spectre breaks him out immediately thereafter because, 'Hey, that's what vigilantes do'. Such a roundabout method of getting Popp in and out of jail might seem unnecessary, but it does make sense in that it could be argued that Corrigan is acting as a man of his word who presumably gave an oath that he would respect the law no matter what it asks of him while The Spectre is following the path of justice. Speaking of which... We haven't really seen The Spectre exhibit his powers in a new way recently, so it was a treat seeing him fly a crook into space to subject him to extreme cold and then extreme heat on the way back. Again, he isn't simply punching them around until he gets the answers he wants, but resorting to some ingenuity for a change. It also seems that we're past the point of Popp nagging The Spectre/Corrigan for the right to be their partner. He's seen working into the night with Corrigan without complaint from the season detective as if such a sight should be expected at this point. Whether this will continue we'll have to wait and see. All in all, The Spectre resembles something approximating his identity of old here. Someone who enjoys using his powers to torment criminals and a being who really shouldn't be wasting time with criminals who opt to shoot him in his chest when they should be attempting something grander. That Percival Popp doesn't play comic relief this time around (nor does The Spectre for that matter - whose air of mystery is somewhat reinstated when a crook argues that he's just a "myth") also helps remind us just whose title adorns the masthead here. This honestly feels like a Spectre tale and not a " Percvial Popp with..." yarn. Possibly the most Spectre-centric tale (excepting that issue of More Fun where Popp didn't appear) since Popp debuted within these pages so far.
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Post by MWGallaher on Jun 4, 2020 6:59:16 GMT -5
The comment about "If I wasn't in my spectral state..." seems to imply that Jim Corrigan would have been vulnerable, a reasonable consequence of being "alive" again, and it's frustrating that Fox never capitalizes on that in any of his stories. Corrigan's revival was just a way to get management's edict out of the way when it could have provided at least a little bit of suspense when the two personas were operating independently. It seems like an obvious storytelling opportunity that never occurs to Fox, but that's assuming that Fox has given any thought to the rules under which this coexistence operates, and there's no evidence that he actually has. Maybe the Spectre's observation simply meant "if I wasn't a ghost..." Storey's "stretch in the pen" must have been really short, even if we pretend that Jim and Perc have been working together since the start of Jim's Spectre career, so this would have made a lot more sense if it had just been Storey's encounter with the Spectre. Apparently the framing sequence was the most important part to Fox, further suggesting to me that he wants to be doing something more akin to Eisner's The Spirit, which I can imagine being a very effective approach to the feature under, well, let's just imagine Eisner himself or his collaborators. A "Spirit" with truly supernatural powers, used sparingly to effect positive change.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jun 4, 2020 23:39:58 GMT -5
The comment about "If I wasn't in my spectral state..." seems to imply that Jim Corrigan would have been vulnerable, a reasonable consequence of being "alive" again, and it's frustrating that Fox never capitalizes on that in any of his stories. Corrigan's revival was just a way to get management's edict out of the way when it could have provided at least a little bit of suspense when the two personas were operating independently. It seems like an obvious storytelling opportunity that never occurs to Fox, but that's assuming that Fox has given any thought to the rules under which this coexistence operates, and there's no evidence that he actually has. There are a lot of available ingredients which go unused in this series. Saddling Jim Corrigan with a partner when he needs to change into The Spectre has storytelling potential and yet we always get that transformation happening unobserved out in the open. Even that bit of convenience has possibilities when you'd think either Siegel or Fox would have hit upon the idea of Corrigan being left in a trancelike vulnerable state when The Spectre leaps out of his body, or hey, have them co-exist but since Corrigan is now alive, why not remove his memory of being The Spectre so that he's genuinely trying to catch the guy. Surely, Fox would have been aware of how successful Captain Marvel was at this time, so why not take a page from their book and have the real, living, breathing entity be the weak link in this Corrigan-Spectre partnership?
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Post by chadwilliam on Jun 9, 2020 21:59:21 GMT -5
All-Star Comics #14 (Dec-Jan 1942/43) "How to Feed Conquered Europe and Still Keep Nazism Undernourished!!"
Synopsis: Basically what the title says, or as Hawkman puts it, "The liberty loving peoples of Europe must be fed! This must be accomplished without the enemy's knowledge... or they will show their usual mercy and eat the food themselves!" But how to accomplish this without the Nazis catching on? Producing a marble sized capsule, Hawkman provides an answer. Contained within that pellet is a full turkey dinner which, when mixed with a special solution, grows to full size. So the plan is this - smuggle in thousands of these capsules and bingo-bango, Europe is fed. Of course, the team will be dividing their efforts since Europe is a large place and The Spectre is headed to... Belgium. More specifically, "on a hidden airplane hangar somewhere south of Brussels [where] plucky patriots work frenziedly". The Spectre finds himself appearing just in time to spot the arrival of Nazi troops attempting to overtake this hangar using the fact that their targets have been weakened from food deprivation condition to their advantage. An uneven battle which would otherwise be certain to end in defeat for the good guys, gets flipped when The Spectre plays a hand. Preventing the sudden execution of these heroic men, The Spectre turns his attention to their aggressors and those who are swiftly kicked and pummeled to the ground, find themselves flown into outer space. "I'll leave you on Pluto, where you can't hurt anyone except yourselves!" Returning from that excursion, The Spectre returns to occupied Belguim and in presenting these noble people with their food, has his attention drawn to dark arrows painted upon the ground. Questioning the effectiveness of such a tool, The Spectre is informed that while to the naked eye, the arrow is meaningless, when bombarded with infra-red light projected from R.A.F. planes, they quite neatly direct bombers to Nazi bases without the Nazis themselves being able to explain how. With food in their bellies, the Resistance demonstrates their ability to hoodwink their Nazi captors. Even while ploughing their fields scythes carve further arrows into the ground serving as markers for The British Military which are then covered up once further ploughing is done. Of course, there are problems for which these men have no solution for and the main one, are the cold blooded executions which take place daily. Hearing no better cue than that, The Spectre takes action and prevents the execution by walloping all Nazis involved with both fists swinging. Freeing the formerly fated-to-be executed Belgiums, these people display their gratitude by demonstrating just what they can do when their bellies are fed. "In the dead of night, defiant patriots change direction pointers, knowing that the Nazis would soon lose long hours and spend precious gas trying to reorient themselves! In factories, sharp pincers sabotage Nazi war machines! And more and more 'signs' direct endless waves of R.A.F. bombers to Nazi targets!" After looking on approvingly, The Spectre departs while expressing his appreciation "for the privilege of meeting men who laugh at odds and valiantly fight for victory!" Thoughts: Here we get the human interest story which More Fun Comics #85 wasn't and it's centered around the question of how do the overtaken victims of the Nazis fight back against the atrocities of their captors? That real life offered no such counterpart to the fictional Spectre is a sobering thought for it only serves to underscore how much more horrific their ordeal must have been than either what audiences in 1942 were aware of or what comics could present and yet, there's a nobility here which shines through on the part of the Belguims. Interestingly, while the idea of using markers painted in ink which can only be detected through the use of infra-red sounds reasonable to me, I have to imagine that since it's being used in a comic book, then it wasn't a tactic deployed during actual war time simply because if it were, no publication (well, on the side of the Allies anyway) would be betraying such a secret. I remember reading a Superman story published in Superman: From the 30's to the 80's whose release was delayed because it inadvertently came up with a device which closely approximated one already in development by the U.S. army. On the other hand, the infra-red light tactic employed in this yarn might just have been common knowledge to everybody at the time and I'm just easily impressed. Also thought it interesting - well, more puzzling than interesting - that The Spectre revisits the planet Pluto one issue after first travelling to it. Fox could have picked any planet, made one up, or simply dropped those Nazis off on some unnamed asteroid, but no, no, after setting up a backstory for the planet, introducing its peoples, and even established that The Spectre will be making periodic visits to the area to make sure things are still going smoothly between the Plutonians and "The Furred Ones", here he treats it as if it were a generic, personality-less planet. And since that planet is being depicted (presumably) by Baily it looks no larger than about a quarter of a mile in circumference. I think it would have been a nice gag to see those Ratzis abandoned there with all the other forgotten members of The Spectre canon - Wayne Grant, Clarice Winston, The Winston family, etc. I wonder just how quickly Fox forgets a story once he's finished it. As usual, there isn't much for me to comment on for this installment given its six page length (and the first page is a single moodily rendered splash of The Spectre leaping into the fray) and The Spectre himself is still his everyday cookie cutter personality self quipping and right hooking away. "Button, button, right on the button!", "Looks like a strike from this alley!" (though admittedly, the placement of the word balloon is such that it could be the Nazi being knocked down saying this - why villains would quip about their sad predicament while being tossed around is something I never understood, but it happened), "One side Nazis, one side!". Kind of an uplifting tale though you have to of course try and block out your knowledge of just how bad things really were at this time to appreciate it, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that The Spectre was the least impressive thing about this tale.
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Post by zaku on Jun 10, 2020 2:34:49 GMT -5
It's always a little jarring seeing real life events mixed with super-powered characters. I still remember how out of place seemed the Marvel's issue dedicated to the 9/11. While I know that their hearths were in the right place, was quite disorienting seeing characters despairing for something that in the comics' world would be the result of you average Spider-Man vs Rhino brawl. Here you have characters like The Spectre or Green Lantern who could end the war in few minutes but they use their vast powers for food delivery.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jun 10, 2020 15:43:07 GMT -5
It's always a little jarring seeing real life events mixed with super-powered characters. I still remember how out of place seemed the Marvel's issue dedicated to the 9/11. While I know that their hearths were in the right place, was quite disorienting seeing characters despairing for something that in the comics' world would be the result of you average Spider-Man vs Rhino brawl. Here you have characters like The Spectre or Green Lantern who could end the war in few minutes but they use their vast powers for food delivery. As strange as it is seeing Hitler being portrayed as a comical buffoon rather than the vicious perpetrator of the Holocaust he was, I can certainly see how stories such as this one served a greater good. Here was a foe of The Justice Society that you, the reader, could actually help the team fight by buying war bonds, supporting American values of equality, and by recycling those comics of yours which will never be worth anything in paper drives. Had America even knew the full extent of what Hitler was doing in 1942, I still think this approach would prove the most efficient (not sure if the horrors of Concentration Camps would have been something kids should be reading about in comic books at seven and eight).
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Post by MWGallaher on Jun 10, 2020 15:52:52 GMT -5
Nice splash page, at least, telling a bit of the story, what with the hay bale blocks and the late night signal-painting right above the heads of the Nazi officers and soldiers. All-Star gets to be a little third-rate in a lot of the art, so moody shots like this are, and probably were, appreciated. The Spectre poses we've seen lately from Baily or his ghosts look a little less like they're copied from "Physical Culture" magazines and often more like dancers, or maybe, in this case, an ice skater.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jun 10, 2020 23:03:10 GMT -5
The Spectre poses we've seen lately from Baily or his ghosts look a little less like they're copied from "Physical Culture" magazines and often more like dancers, or maybe, in this case, an ice skater. He doesn't seem to be really prancing anymore, but good call on the ice skater shot. Makes me realize that we can still only speculate on how a person would move and pose if they could fly. Sure, arms outstretched seems reasonable, but would this still feel necessary after say, a minute or two?
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