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Post by MWGallaher on Mar 23, 2020 16:13:26 GMT -5
An awkward story that doesn't exactly flow with a consistent feel, but Gardner Fox does at least pick up on those weird touches you noted, and that's what characterizes a Spectre story even more than the vengeful punishments. Baily's figure work has developed a lot since the earliest stories. His Spectre musculature and inking technique remind me very much of Murphy Anderson, who would be the next (and remarkably, only the second!) artist on the feature, decades later. I do suspect he was using some photo reference, like "physical culture" magazines, but the results fit in even though the rest of the characters seem to be drawn mostly from imagination, while still standing out, since the Spectre tends to be the only character in these stories not in plain clothes (or a monk's hood and robe).
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Post by chadwilliam on Mar 23, 2020 17:41:08 GMT -5
Such an enjoyable thread, chadwilliam ! Keep 'em flyin'! You keep reading them - I'll keep writing them! We're all in this together, you know!
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 23, 2020 17:54:56 GMT -5
Such an enjoyable thread, chadwilliam ! Keep 'em flyin'! You keep reading them - I'll keep writing them! We're all in this together, you know! Huzzah!
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Post by chadwilliam on Mar 23, 2020 17:55:05 GMT -5
An awkward story that doesn't exactly flow with a consistent feel, but Gardner Fox does at least pick up on those weird touches you noted, and that's what characterizes a Spectre story even more than the vengeful punishments. Baily's figure work has developed a lot since the earliest stories. His Spectre musculature and inking technique remind me very much of Murphy Anderson, who would be the next (and remarkably, only the second!) artist on the feature, decades later. I do suspect he was using some photo reference, like "physical culture" magazines, but the results fit in even though the rest of the characters seem to be drawn mostly from imagination, while still standing out, since the Spectre tends to be the only character in these stories not in plain clothes (or a monk's hood and robe). I can see it being a bit of a task to have to write a self-contained story which will serve as a good indication of what to expect in a character's home title, while at the same time, serving the purposes of the larger story by not having those individual tales be too complete. Sort of 'Win the battle, lose (or at least postpone) the war'. Not sure whether I prefer Baily's more "developed" work or his earlier approach with its 'penciled at midnight by candlelight in a dark, creepy attic' feel. I can certainly see how much more real he seems (your comparison to Murphy Anderson is very astute) but given my mood, I'm either in favour of a Spectre I can lay my eyes on or a Spectre who I couldn't quite describe in detail without looking at the page (and even sometimes that can be difficult),
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Post by shaxper on Mar 23, 2020 22:54:22 GMT -5
I've finally started to re-read these along with your reviews. I haven't had time to post my thoughts, but I hope to do so soon. I LOVE this thread and am excited to contribute!
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Post by chadwilliam on Mar 23, 2020 23:20:19 GMT -5
I've finally started to re-read these along with your reviews. I haven't had time to post my thoughts, but I hope to do so soon. I LOVE this thread and am excited to contribute! I look forward to that - as I may or may not have said before, your own reviews are the gold standard for these things as far as I'm concerned, so I appreciate the praise. Though if you disagree or find anything wanting, please let me know, old friend!
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Post by shaxper on Mar 24, 2020 8:29:37 GMT -5
I've finally started to re-read these along with your reviews. I haven't had time to post my thoughts, but I hope to do so soon. I LOVE this thread and am excited to contribute! I look forward to that - as I may or may not have said before, your own reviews are the gold standard for these things as far as I'm concerned, so I appreciate the praise. Though if you disagree or find anything wanting, please let me know, old friend! I appreciate the compliment, but you probe far deeper than I, and that's exactly what I love about this thread. You've taken a property even the creators didn't give that much consideration to, and taken it to a whole new level!
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Post by chadwilliam on Mar 24, 2020 12:03:28 GMT -5
More Fun Comics #69 (July 1941) Synopsis: A locked room murder mystery for Jim Corrigan begins when Thomas Bardsley puts in a call to the police and has the misfortune of having Chief answer. Explaining that his life has been threatened, Bardsley is immediately dismissed as “some guy with a powerful imagination who is getting scared silly over nothing” by Chief when Corrigan asks what’s up (I’m surprised that Chief was just intelligent enough to place his hand over the phone when relaying this opinion so that Bardsley didn’t overhear it). Chief has to reassess his judgement of Bardsley’s safety when he overhears a shriek coming from the other end of the line. A race to Bardsley reveals the man dead by strangulation. “The killer must possess extraordinary strength, for the head is crushed, almost torn off!” remarks Corrigan. Just as Corrigan considers the fact that the doors and windows in the room in which their victim was discovered were locked from the inside and had to be broken down by the detective to gain entry, the phone rings. Assuming that it is Bardsley who answers, a voice quickly threatens to kill him should be not pay the $10,000 dollars he owes. Corrigan traces the call (the way a normal person would by calling the operator and not by climbing into the phone like a weirdo) and discovers that Daniel Lakespur placed the threat. Lakespur admits to making the threat but “only to frighten him”. He claims innocent of Bardsley’s murder and Corrigan’s intuition informs him that the man speaks the truth. Nevertheless, Chief hauls him in… …and lets him go when he learns that since Bardsley’s murder, there have been five other deaths which Lakespur couldn’t have carried out. Lakespur however, does remain involved in the case when he receives a threatening note demanding that he leave $5000 in a sack beneath the Carlson Bridge that evening “or die”. The killer also leaves his name – The Tentacle. Though Lakespur is terrified, Chief is thrilled as he believes that this provides them with the perfect opportunity to catch their killer. Using Lakesur as bait, Chief, Corrigan, and a few policemen guard Lakespur in his home. Lakespur meanwhile, decides to lock himself in his room. “Go ahead if it makes you feel any better” suggests Corrigan. After an undisclosed amount of time passes, Chief and Corrigan begin to suspect that their killer won’t show up. Suddenly, a scream comes from Lakespur’s room. Corrigan and Chief race in to find Lakespur as dead as the others. A policeman stationed outside the room didn’t witness anyone entering or leaving and Corrigan concedes “Frankly, I can’t understand how the crime could have been committed!” At that point, Chief solves the case – “The Spectre!” I’m kind of surprised that it took him this long to figure it out. Still, when Jake Carstairs calls and reports that his life has been threatened, Chief comforts him by assuring the worried man “Never fear, we’ve a plan! --er—we have a plan, haven’t we, Jim?” Good Lord, this man is an idiot. Corrigan reassures Chief who reassures Carstairs and that evening, is on hand as The Spectre (invisibly, of course) to watch over The Tentacle’s intended victim. At the hour at which death is scheduled to strike, The Spectre hears a buzzing noise. Turning to face the source, he spots a strange plant extending its leaves towards its unsuspecting victim. The Spectre destroys the plant, Chief and Corrigan burst in (yes, Corrigan is a separate entity at this moment) and The Spectre heads for the Carlson Bridge where he disguises himself as a sack of cash. When The Tentacle (a rather undistinguished, homely looking, red-headed fellow) retrieves the sack of Spectre and returns to his hideout/greenhouse, The Spectre plays his hand. Chasing The Tentacle through the greenhouse, the villain trips and is destroyed by one of the plants he “sold to [his] wealthy customers [after] plac[ing] time mechanisms within them”. “A horrible fate, but one of his own devising”, remarks the dark knight. The next morning, Corrigan fills Chief in on the details while clearing his other identity. Upon doing so, he is reminded that regardless of innocence or guilt, “The Spectre gets in my hair! You’re to arrest him, see – on sight! Remember that!” Thoughts: In the previous issue, Lakespur was one of the cities marked for destruction by alien invaders. Here, it serves as the last name of one of The Tentacle's about-to-be victims. Siegel must have either liked the name or was including it as something of an in-joke here. Why would Chief dismiss Bardsley as a nut when he reports that his life has been threatened? If he had screamed into his phone something like “My plants are trying to kill me! Help!” I’d understand, but “I’ve received an anonymous letter threatening my life! I’ve locked myself in!”? What’s so crazy about that? Insisting that the next victim make himself bait for a killer isn’t much better either. Not sure what Siegel’s trying to accomplish with this character- he’s an idiot to be sure, but not exactly what I’d call comic relief. Corrigan doesn’t exactly shine either, forgetting, as he does, that he should be able to do far more as The Spectre than as Corrigan. Stories involving superpowered beings have to overlook things like that from time to time to work of course, but his cavalier response to Lakespur announcing that he intends to lock himself in his room (“Go ahead if it’ll make you feel any better!”) doesn’t exactly acquit him of any culpability in his death. Interestingly, the line between where The Spectre begins and Jim Corrigan ends becomes further blurred in this issue when Corrigan races into the room after The Spectre has saved The Tentacle’s intended victim as if the two are separate beings. When the detective remarks, “Now if we could only locate the creator of this fiendish thing…”, The Spectre remarks, “Thanks for the suggestion, Jim!” as if the two aren’t privy to one another’s thoughts and actions while apart. As a locked room mystery it’s pretty basic – it doesn’t ever really contradict itself, but at the same time, doesn’t give the reader a chance to figure it out on their own. I like that in The Spectre’s corner of the world, a natural explanation is a plant which can grow and reach out and crush the life from its victim as opposed to a poison excreted from a pen or a gas from a cigar – it has to have that little touch of surrealism even when rooted in the real world. Perhaps Corrigan’s laziness this time around was due to things being too normal and therefor boring for him. Not a bad tale, but the biggest take away is that Chief is an idiot which we already knew. Hoping that he’ll go the way of Wayne Grant and just disappear from the series if Siegel isn’t going to do more with him (even if it means replacing him with Percival Popp). Perhaps the best summation I can give of my thoughts is that while the story is pretty basic for comic book locked room mysteries, the change of pace is appreciated and a good indication that Siegel is still looking for ways to do something new with the series.
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Post by MWGallaher on Mar 24, 2020 16:30:09 GMT -5
Something of a return to form as the Spectre nears the end of its first phase, with a higher-than-needed body count and a villain killed--if not clearly intentionally--rather than jailed. The threat is sufficiently weird but far-fetched: even if the Tentacle can convince all those men to buy one of those ugly-ass plants, how can he be sure that they would be nearby when the "kill" signal was sent?
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Post by chadwilliam on Mar 24, 2020 19:27:09 GMT -5
Something of a return to form as the Spectre nears the end of its first phase, with a higher-than-needed body count and a villain killed--if not clearly intentionally--rather than jailed. The threat is sufficiently weird but far-fetched: even if the Tentacle can convince all those men to buy one of those ugly-ass plants, how can he be sure that they would be nearby when the "kill" signal was sent? Good point. I will say that from the looks of these things, it's pretty obvious why all of The Tentacle's victims were assured to be having their backs to them at all times.
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Post by chadwilliam on Mar 26, 2020 11:50:13 GMT -5
More Fun Comics #70 (August 1941)Synopsis: Concerned about the strange whispering informing him of his impending death that very evening, Henry Granger places a call to his doctor who advises him to come over for an examination – he doesn’t make it. Hearing of the case, Jim Corrigan decides to pay a visit to the scene of Granger’s death – the bridge over which he seemingly drove his car into the lake. Summoning a vision of Granger’s final moments, The Spectre bears witness to a pair of hands gripping the wheel of the poor soul’s car forcing it to a watery doom. With this knowledge acquired, The Spectre is visited by a robed figure warning him not to meddle in this affair. Giving chase, The Spectre soon loses his grip on the deathly looking fellow but feels assured that the two will meet again. At headquarters, Jim Corrigan is introduced to Carl Munson, member of The Crimson Circle Mystic Society – an organization the young man joined as a lark. Refusing to hand over a significant portion of his weekly salary to the club however, has made him a target of the group. Having received threats on his life and reporting the matter to the right man, Corrigan decides to watch over Munson as The Spectre. Sure enough, an invisible figure attempts to do away with the young man that very evening as The Spectre observes nearby. A short struggle ensues, The Spectre is knocked to the floor, and despite his efforts, has to bear witness to the death of Carl Musson by the same pair of hands that did in Henry Granger. Once again, The Spectre is urged not to interfere. Round two goes to the robed figure. Jim Corrigan advises Chief of his intention to bring down The Crimson Circle Mystic Society. With permission granted, he joins the group and feigns obedience when their leader, Bandar, hypnotizes them into robbing The Empire Gem Company. Snapping out of the trance, the members, minus Jim Corrigan, forget everything. Nevertheless, a hitch presents itself for the detective when one of the members of the society recognizes him as an officer of the law. Bandar is warned and arranges for Corrigan to be taken for a ride. Despite the fact that his target is aware of Bandar’s discovery of his identity (well, one of his identities at any rate) even if Corrigan was taken for surprise by the “barrage of slugs” shot into him during a car ride, the outcome would likely be unchanged. Dumped in the road, Corrigan rises, transforms into The Spectre, and heads back to the club. Watching as Bandar settles upon Neil Baxter as the organization’s next victim, The Spectre trails the seer once he separates his astral self from his human body leaving no doubt as to the identity of the robed figure previously encountered by our hero. Following Bandar to The Silver Streek train as it carries his new target, The Spectre prevents the derailment of the vehicle despite Bandar’s best efforts. The two struggle in battle with The Spectre gaining the upper hand through the deployment of The Ring of Life. Knocking Bandar back, a strange race follows with The Spectre attempting to reach Bandar’s human form before his astral one can get back to it. Bandar is just in time to watch as The Spectre discharges a bolt of energy blasting it out of existence. Bandar’s ghostly figure is last seen whirling through space, powerless to do much of anything other than hold his hands to his head. So ends The Crimson Circle Mystic Society; so ends Bandar. Thoughts: Nothing we haven’t seen before – robed figure, a series of threatened men, The Spectre overpowered by a human who seems better versed in mystical ways than he, but winning the final round, a costly mistake here and there, and the reappearance of powers The Spectre sometimes forgets he has. Even some of the finer details incorporated into the strip in recent months are getting overplayed – Corrigan being taken for a ride, shot, and then dumped in the road is getting to be a regular occurrence for the crimefighter – while certain others are held in restraint – Chief appears only to assign Corrigan his mission and not to remind us what an imbecile he is. Baily has been altering his style over the past little while and I’ve probably done him a disservice by not bringing it up. The artwork is less cramped partially due to what seems to be a reduction in the amount of captions and text and partly as a result of Baily using space more efficiently – there are less tiny figures occupying tiny boxes and more examples of The Spectre being reduced in size to better show off whatever’s going on in the background even if what’s going on are some passing clouds. At point, Baily even experiments by inserting a disjointed albeit symmetrically shaped panel so that it fills up most of the bottom half of a page to emphasis Bandar’s astral self leaving his Earthly domain. It’s a fairly significant step for an artist who hasn’t really drifted far from using a standard grid layout to tell his tales. It’ll be interesting to see where things go from here. Can’t say much more than that – nothing about this addition to the texts really establishes itself as something distinct from what’s come before and as such it would probably read better or worse depending upon whether its one of the first Spectre stories you encounter or one of the latter. It doesn’t do much which we haven’t seen before as I’ve said, but it does manage to avoid a lot of the problems of earlier entries – ie. Corrigan doesn’t fail to protect as many innocents as he usually does and in this case, he wasn’t gambling with lives as he often does. I suspect that if this were your first contact with The Spectre you wouldn’t necessarily be in a hurry to follow it up with more, but neither would you have any reason not to check him out again somewhere down the road.
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Post by MWGallaher on Mar 26, 2020 13:47:50 GMT -5
Even if Siegel is constrained from having the Spectre be the death-dealing force from the earliest stories, he has at least hit upon one convenient way to incorporate murderous violence--he can have Jim Corrigan be the victim. This is something that few if any of the Spectre's contemporaries could carry off--yeah, there might be some cliff-hanger escapes and apparent demises, but only a ghost can be flat-out murdered on-panel and pop up none the worse for wear. Not that Jerry really relied on that gag to any great degree, but it was an option for thrills that wouldn't have worked with Superman or the Star-Spangled Kid.
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Post by chadwilliam on Mar 26, 2020 16:32:55 GMT -5
Even if Siegel is constrained from having the Spectre be the death-dealing force from the earliest stories, he has at least hit upon one convenient way to incorporate murderous violence--he can have Jim Corrigan be the victim. This is something that few if any of the Spectre's contemporaries could carry off--yeah, there might be some cliff-hanger escapes and apparent demises, but only a ghost can be flat-out murdered on-panel and pop up none the worse for wear. Not that Jerry really relied on that gag to any great degree, but it was an option for thrills that wouldn't have worked with Superman or the Star-Spangled Kid. Siegel once had some of Luthor's men take Clark Kent and Lois Lane for a ride. Kent knocks Lois unconscious and then turns on the men who promptly shoot him in the face. They recoil in horror as the bullets bounce off him and watch in amazement as the meek and mild mannered reporter proceeds to dismantle their car while they're sitting in it. He carries Lois away as the car goes over a cliff. When Lois awakens and asks what happened to Luthor's men, Clark casually explains that they let them go with a warning. Though seeing bullets bounce off Clark Kent should come as no more as a surprise than seeing them bounce off of Superman, I can't help but feel there's a still a difference because of the purpose each identity serves. With The Spectre, one might be forgiven for seeing him get up after being struck down by a car - after all, that's what superheroes do. With plainclothes Corrigan though, it's really driven home that 'Oh right, The Spectre isn't just a superhero - he's a walking dead man'. The Spectre playing possum after being tossed out a window doesn't quite have the impact, in my opinion, as Corrigan laying in a ditch even though they're one and the same. I also like how disposable Corrigan is to The Spectre. "Ok, Jim - you distract them by getting shot and run over and I'll sneak around this tree!". It reminds me that Corrigan is just a shell really for The Spectre.
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Post by electricmastro on Mar 26, 2020 22:24:45 GMT -5
Ah, possibly one of the biggest art highlights by Bernard Baily from his work on the Spectre.
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Post by chadwilliam on Mar 27, 2020 14:09:32 GMT -5
Ah, possibly one of the biggest art highlights by Bernard Baily from his work on the Spectre. It's the way the bad guy comes close to tripping over an entire planet, isn't it?
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