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Post by rberman on Jun 18, 2020 23:07:53 GMT -5
I saw Ice Pirates in the theater once and never since. The only scene I remember is when Robert Urich was bound and riding on a conveyer belt, and a mechanical jaw was going to chomp his nuts off. That's all I've got!
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jun 19, 2020 2:32:19 GMT -5
Ice Pirates is friggin' awesome.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 21, 2020 16:13:13 GMT -5
Since I am in that era, I will move on to a huge favorite of mine.... Let me paint a picture. It is the summer of 1984. I have just graduated high school and will be going off to the University of Illinois, on a Navy ROTC Scholarship, then serve for at least 4 years on active duty, as a Naval Officer. I'm leaving behind everything I have known for the past 17 years (I'm a November birthday, which made me one of the youngest in my class). It's a very scary time. I am working a job as a dishwasher at a restaurant inside a Bergners Department Store and going to see a lot of movies. Then, I see a trailer for a sci-fi film about a young man who is looking to head off to college, both wanting to escape the tiny community that offers little, beyond family and friendship (not that those aren't important) and being scared of leaving all he has know. Then, by chance, after setting the high score on a video arcade game, he is tapped to save the galaxy from an invading army. Tell me how that film could not strike a chord within me? Alex Rogan is a teenager, looking to escape life in a small town and a trailer park. He lives with his single mother (presumably a widow, though it is left unstated; but, Alex mentions his father taking them to see some caves with a fondness that suggests he is no longer living) and younger brother, fixing things for residents, hanging out with friends and playing an arcade game, called Starfighter. When he fails to get a scholarship to go off to university, his hopes for escape are crushed. He further misses out on a planned trip to go camping on a lake, with his girl, Maggie, and friends, when he once again has to help others. He completes his job and unwinds by playing the video game. He gets lost in the game, as brother Louis watches. Maggie shows up and they half-heartedly talk, while Alex absent-mindedly plays the game. Eventually, everyone realizes that Alex keeps winning and is cranking up a high score. Otis, the man who runs the snack-shop and store calls out to others that Alex is going to break the record. Soon, half the park is there watching Alex defeat invader after invader, until he finally starts his attack run on the mother ship and destroys it. For a brief moment, Alex is a hero, though no one seems to know why it was important that Alex win, other than it made them feel good to see him do well (and it was probably something to do). Alex is then approached, later, by a stranger in a high tech Delorean-like car. He says he is Centauri, the inventor of the game, and asks him so sit in the car and talk. The next thing you know, Alex is being whisked off until; the road runs out and the car takes flight; not just into the sky but into space! Alex is taken to Rylos, where it is revealed that the elements of the game are real, that he has been, as the game says, "Recruited by the Star League, to Defend the Frontier Against Xur and the Kodan Armada." Xur is a traitor to Rylos and has given the secret of the Frontier, a vast energy field that protects the borders of the Star League, and is leading an armada of Kodan warships to attack Rylos. Alex balks at this and demands to be returned home and Centauri, an old con artist is forced to comply. After landing on Earth, Rylos and the Starfighter base is sabotaged and hit by an attack, devastating the starfighters. On Earth, an alien assassin nearly kills Alex and badly wounds Centauri. Alex has to go with him and a robot duplicate of Alex is left behind (actually, when Alex first left). The robot interacts (strangely) with friends and family. Eventually, it confesses to an angry and frustrated Maggie that it is a duplicate and Alex is off in space. She doesn't believe him until she sees the alien killer that comes for him. Meanwhile, Centauri dies after bringing Alex back to Rylos and he teams with navigator Grigg, to pilot the last Gunstar spacecraft to stop Xur. They use asteroids to hide and let the Kodan ships pass and attack them from the rear, then unleash a secret weapon that destroys the bulk of the fighters. They attack the mothershiop and cause it to crash into a moon. Alex is the hero of Rylos and invited to stay and help rebuild the Starfighter command. he first goes back to say goodbye to family and finds Maggie. he begs her to come along and her grandmother tells her to go. He passes the Starfighter torch to brother Louis and he and Maggie fly off into space, as Louis begins to play the game. I LOVE THIS MOVIE! It's not perfect; some of the performances fall a bit flat, especially Lance Guest, in anything that calls for romantic emotion. He just seems to go through the motions, at times. However, what really works is he is surrounded by great CHARACTER actors. Centauri is played by Robert Preston, essentially recreating Howard Hill, from the Music Man. This was no coincidence, as the part was written with that performance in mind. He is a lovable rogue who cons Alex into venturing off to the stars, against his will. Except, Centauri sees more in Alex than he sees in himself and helps him tap into it. He provides Excalibur for young Wart to find and become King Arthur. Dan O'Herlihy is Grigg, under a lot of latex, playing the wise and fatherly alien navigator who handles the secondary systems on the two-being Gunstar. Grigg also invented the Deathblossom super-weapon, that helps Alex save the day. O'Herlihy is best known to modern audiences as The Old Man, in Robocop, but had a long history in film, television and theater. His deep, powerful voice, ability to play characters and sheer enjoyment brings alive the hunk of latex that surrounds his head and face, making it emote. he adds a believability to something that could easily be written off as make-up. The human actors include Barbara Bosson (Hill Street Blues) as Alex's mother, Chris Herbert (lot of tv, including young Alex Keaton, in a Christmas Carol pastiche, on Family Ties) as brother Louis, Vernon Washington (The Jeffersons) as Otis, and Meg Wylie (Star Trek: "The Cage") as Granny. Whil Wheaton was cast as a friend of Louis'; but, most of his scenes were cut from the film. Finallt, Catherine Mary Stewart is Maggie. Lance Guest captures the restlessness of Alex, the frustration that he is forever stuck where he is, seeing his dreams escape. He's not so great with the romantic part, though he has moments; mostly when it really counts. He is great when he plays Beta, the android duplicate left to hide Alex's absence. Beta is devoid of Alex's knowledge and reacts to this strange world and teenaged rituals. His awkwardness with Maggie is fun to watch. Robert Preston steals the film; but, how could he not? No one played a fast-talking snake oil salesman better, yet made them endearing , rather than repulsive. Preston had a smile that could charm the Mongols into just buying a time-share, instead of razing a community to the ground. Stewart is more solid than Guest, endearing as the girl who sees something in Alex and wants to be with him, especially when he just wants to sulk about his misery. She truly loves him, beyond a teen romance. You can believe that Alex would return to Earth to take her with him. The park is populated with characters, as Otis is Alex's friend and co-worker in making repairs and consoles him when he seems to have lost everything. "You'll get your chance. You just have to grab on tight, when it comes." Louis is a scamp and a pest, but Alex loves his little brother and he worships the hero his older brother becomes. This is old fashioned space opera, in the spirit of EE "Doc Smith (Skylark) and Edmond Hamilton (Captain Future), with a bit of TH White and The Once and Future King. Alex is every kid who dreamed of adventure in some far off place and every unassuming hero who turned out to be more than what was on the surface. He is the dreamer who gets a shot at making them a reality, but not in the way he expected. He is the boy who became a man at a young age, because he had responsibility thrust upon him, yet showed that he could handle it and more. That is what a true hero is; someone who accepts the responsibility and does what is needed, precisely because it is needed and they can do it. Alex could live on Earth, far away from Rylos and their war and be untouched; but, he sees the need and realizes he has the skill to help. He also realizes that any peace will be short-lived, if Rylos falls. He accepts the responsibility and goes to help stop Xur. The film is directed by Nick Castle, who worked with John Carpenter, on Escape From New York. It is also the first film to follow Tron into the world of Computer Graphic Imaging. The space scenes are done with computer models which look artificial today (and then); but, they were able to move in ways that practical models and cameras on tracks couldn't quite accomplish. So, you accepted the artifice because of how effectively it was employed. Plus, the designs were pretty unique and imaginative. It was a major step in the evolution of CGI in filmmaking. One of the really great elements of the film is the rousing score by Craig Safan. Safan had done work for independent and low budget films and some television (he composed music for Cheers and Amazing Stories), but this was his biggest score yet. he saw what John Williams did with Star Wars and wanted to go bigger, drawing inspiration from Gustav Mahler. The end result is truly heroic.. Is that a call for adventure or what? There was more, as can be heard in this performance of the Last Starfighter Suite, conducted by Safan, with a Spanish orchestra... Critics often called The Last Starfighter a Star Wars rip-ioff. I'm sure the studio had that in mind; but, Nick Castle and Jonathan Betuel were looking deeper into the past, into the same kind of adventure that inspired Lucas, but took it more into the heroic pulp space opera, looking less to Flash Gordon and more to Skylark Duquesne and the juvenile adventures of Robert Heinlein. Castle also instilled it with a lot of wit, which helps make the characters charming and endearing and the adventure more grounded. There is a great scene after Alex hears the briefing of the Starfighters, when you hear a voiceover of someone briefing the pilots about their gear, which is a call back to a similar scene in Dr Strangelove. This clip, after Alex learns what is going on, shows how more sophisticated humor was mixed into juvenile adventure... Like Alex, I did eventually leave behind my small town existence and go on a larger adventure, finding myself caught up in a war (though, thankfully, not in direct combat) and forever changed by the experiences. One thing that has never changed is that I loved this film from the moment the music struck up in the theater and I still thrill to it when I pop in the disc, on my blu-ray player. Once again, I am answering the call of the Star League, to defend the Frontier against Xur and the Kodan Armada. It's an old-fashion film, in a more modern package, that looks dated today, yet the story and the characters still hold up. Good storytelling will always last, even as effects evolve. The world always needs heroes and every youth that has dreamed of something bigger will always respond to the call of adventure. Next time, another film with Craig Safan music and a hero, though of a little greyer material: Remo Williams, The Adventure Begins.
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Post by rberman on Jun 21, 2020 17:17:46 GMT -5
The Last Starfighter was good fun which like Tron fueled the fantasy that video game expertise just might come in handy for saving the world. It would be a perfect kids movie except for the Playboy reference.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 21, 2020 18:02:59 GMT -5
The Last Starfighter was good fun which like Tron fueled the fantasy that video game expertise just might come in handy for saving the world. It would be a perfect kids movie except for the Playboy reference. I don't know; I found that a fairly realistic thing, from where I grew up; but, I understand where you are coming from, there. Still, I think that is way less a problem for a kids film than humor built around being hit in the groin, as with subsequent films that were directly marketed to kids.
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Post by rberman on Jun 21, 2020 19:57:43 GMT -5
The Last Starfighter was good fun which like Tron fueled the fantasy that video game expertise just might come in handy for saving the world. It would be a perfect kids movie except for the Playboy reference. I don't know; I found that a fairly realistic thing, from where I grew up; but, I understand where you are coming from, there. Still, I think that is way less a problem for a kids film than humor built around being hit in the groin, as with subsequent films that were directly marketed to kids. I have similar issues with otherwise great "kids" films like The Goonies and E.T. that felt realism demanded vulgarity. That just wasn't part of my life growing up, and I don't want it normed for my kids either. I have enough "we don't talk like that" issues just withwhat they take away from Calvin and Hobbes.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 24, 2020 20:26:59 GMT -5
Today's movie is pure comic book, because the source material was pure comic book, because both it and comic books drew much inspiration from the same wellspring: pulp fiction. So, let's balance on our fingers, lower our heart rates to barely alive and take in the pure awesomeness of Remo Williams, The Adventure Begins...
Remo Williams is an alias for a cop, killed in the line of duty. Except, he is alive. His death was faked by a secret organization: CURE. CURE is a shadowy group who are a law unto themselves, who take care of criminals and terrorists who slip through other channels. It's also a two-man group; three, with Remo. He is sent on his first mission to kill an Asian assassin, only to find out it is a test, as he is introduced to Chiun, the Korean master of sinanju, from which all other martial arts are derived (according to the series, as there is no such art). He then gets the crap kicked out of him by Chiun, until he learns how to do the stuff Chiun can do. Then he is sent to investigate an oily defense contractor.
Quite frankly, the corrupt weapons procurement stuff is pretty weak and the best parts of the film are Chiun abusing Remo and spouting fortune cookie one liners. However, it is so much fun that it makes up for having to deal with a not overly intimidating villain and Kate Mulgrew's annoying voice (to me, anyway). The film was also done on the cheap, with a lot of tv actors, who don't rise to the occasion. The aforementioned Mulgrew is dull as her olive drab uniform. She is not a love interest, isn't much of an authoritarian threat, shows no real skill, and just is mostly there to be rescued by Remo and be handed the evidence to take down the crooked CEO. But, who cares about all of that?
Sinanju is basically pulp martial arts, with ridiculous things like running across sand without leaving footprints (and water, at one point), balancing on things for no good reason, and killing people with a finger. The jedi would love Chiun! This makes for some hilarious training scenes and some innovative stunts for the action scenes. The series emphasized humor and wild stunts, rather than pure violence, which som critics appreciated, after Rambo and Commando (coming up). The relationship between Chiun and Remo is what carries the film and it is aided by great performances by Fred Ward and Joel Grey. Ward was coming off well received performances in Uncommon Valor and The Right Stuff and has the right blue collar persona for Remo. In fact, the pitch to the studio for this was a "Blue Collar James Bond." He was believable as a crude cop and ex-Marine, who has to learn an artform, rather than the blunt fighting he was used to. Ward is good with the comedy and did the bulk of his own stunts, which allowed for tighter shots.
Joel Grey is both an asset and troubling. he is an asset as he is great at playing quirky characters and Chiun defines quirky. The troubling part is the "yellow face." The studio claimed they wanted an Asian actor for the role but "couldn't find one," and went with Grey. So, James Hong was busy? Soon Tek Oh? James Shigeta? Keye Luke? Pat Morita? John Fujioka? Klyde Kusatsu? Bong Soo Han? You get my point; they didn't try very hard. However, leaving aside the racism of a white actor portraying a Korean man, Grey captures the character of the books perfectly and makes him entertaining for an audience who has never read them (I've only read a couple). He is that condescending teacher that beats things into your head; but, it works. he is the nagging spouse who won't shut up about your foibles, yet still sticks with the other partner, because they would miss the fighting. That is half the fun, as Remo and Chiun are like an old married couple, sniping at each other (almost literally).
The supporting cast is a pretty mixed bag. Wilfred Brimley, the gruff oatmeal salesman is a gruff head of a gruff agency. That's about all he brings to this; but, you can buy that he would head a group that acts outside the law as he has never come across as a progressive liberal, in any role. JA Preston (Hill Street Blues), as McCleary, is more engaging, adding a bit more flair to his performance, though he gets a more flamboyant character, compared to Brimley. Kate Mulgrew is just a flat performance in a strange voice, which didn't especially help Mrs Columbo last and never added much to Star Trek Voyager, for my tastes. Charles Cioffi is fine as the crooked defense CEO; but, isn't really given much to work with, nor Michael Pataki, as his henchman. Both are good character actors in poorly sketched roles. Ironically, the deadliest guy on the set ends up dropped in wet cement: "Judo" Gene LeBell, one of the stuntmen. LeBell is a former pro wrestler, AAU Judo champion, and winner of one of the first recorded MMA fights, against boxer Milo Savage (LeBell won, by choke, in the 4th round). LeBell was the referee for the Muhammad Ali-Antonio Inoki MMA fight, trained Bruce Lee in grappling techniques, and choreographed the wrestling scenes (and played the champ in the final match) in the Henry Winkler movie, The One and Only, loosely based on Gorgeous George. LeBell is also notorious for choking out Stephen Segal on the set of Out For Justice, though LeBell has never directly confirmed the story (though he implies it is true; Segal has denied it but others on the set have told versions of the basic story).
The movie was based on the Destroyer series of Men's Adventure pulp novels, by Warren Murphy and Richard Sapir. The series began publishing in 1971 (from a manuscript written in 1963) and continued until 2002, when the series moved fro Golden Eagle (a subsidiary of Harlequin Books) to Tor Books. Will Murray co-wrote or ghost wrote most of the series from the late 80s to the late 90s and also wrote the brief Destroyer magazine-format comic, at Marvel. The film follows the basic characters fairly well, though the villain and overall plot is rather more subdued. the Destroyer series reveled in its pulp ancestry, with colorful villains that were in the real of sci-fi, such as a NASA-created android, Mr Gordons, or the evil assassin, Niuhc, Chiun's nephew, who has sworn to kill him and who fights Remo in a battle to the death, after a few previous appearances.
Unlike many of the other Men's Adventure series of the era, the Destroyer wasn't filled with gun fetishism and reactionary politics (well, not as reactionary). A long running gag was Remo's poor diet poisoning his body and being forced to change by Chiun. The character of Chiun is very racist, feeling only pure born Koreans are noble and constant chastising Remo for not being Korean. This is not a subversive trait, as many Asian cultures, just as in the West, have a heavy racist attitude to "outsiders," usually defined as those not born in the region. The Japanese had a historical hatred of the Koreans, while the Chinese treated other Asians as beneath them. The Vietnamese considered the Montagnard people (mountain tribes, of different ethnic backgrounds) as being subhuman and treated them cruelly. When recruited by the CIA and US Army to fight the VC and North Vietnamese Army, the Americans soon found that the Montagnards were just as willing to kill ARVN soldiers, as all Vietnamese had been their oppressors, North or South. Thus, there is a certain irony to Chiun being played by a Jewish-American actor, in heavy make-up (which was actually more skillful than used in the Charlie Chan and Fu Manchu series). The conundrum is whether it is racist to have a white man playing a racist Asian; or, do the two negatives cancel each other out? In all likelihood, using an Asian actor to portray the character, complete with the racism, would have been more effective in showing that racism exists in many cultures; not just European. Anyway, The Destroyer isn't exactly brimming with philosophy, other than kicking ass and taking names. It never claims to be anything other than a pulp adventure yarn, with lively characters. It's all about plot and action.
This is some of the fun with Chiun and Remo...
One of the more innovative scenes involved a fight across the scaffolding surrounding the Statue of Liberty (which was undergoing restoration, at the time)...
The film was directed by Bond veteran Guy Hamilton and the script was from Bond screenwriter Christopher Wood but, budget cutting held back much of the action and Wood intended a bigger finale, that was severely cut down. In the end, the movie did poorly at the box office and received mixed reviews, though like many "awesome" films, found its audience on cable and home video. It doesn't pretend to be great cinema, anymore than the books retend to be great literature. Both are just pieces of light entertainment, with great characters and interesting and fun scenes. It's pulp filmmaking for a pulp literary hero.
Next time, more pulp adventure with Ahnold and the cheesy goodness that is Commando.......
"Whaaa dun't zey call him Gurhl George?" "Let off zum steam, Bennett!"
Great one-liners, massive amounts of ammunition, one minor wound, a Road Warrior (with Freddie Mercury's 'tache) and an actual comic book connection.
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Post by brutalis on Jun 25, 2020 7:33:41 GMT -5
Oh the 1980's science fiction/fantasy movies. Gems like Space Pirates, Last Starfighter, Remo Williams, Robocop, the Thing, Predator, Terminator, Tron, Escape From New York, Outland, Re-Animator, Scanners, Battle Beyond the Stars and all the others like them really are nothing more than great B movie escapism dressed up for looking like A movies. For me all the above carry so much more heart and entertainment in the long run than the biggies like Star Wars/Trek, Dune, Aliens, Blade Runner and their like. B movie's go that little bit of extra distance, usually starting with lesser effects budgeting so the emphasis moves to story, character and spotlights for those actors willing to risk themselves.
Many a great B movie has tons more reasons for watching them over and over than any A movie at times. Just turn your brain off from the "reality" of making sense and instead give in to the inner 5 year old who simply accepts it all and has the most fun ever watching these B movies. Growing up, for every Sunday night BIG movie watching with the family I had just as much fun sitting up late on Friday nights watching B and C level horror movies in black and white or Saturday mornings with our local World Beyond science fiction movie show and the Saturday afternoon B westerns. Pure fun you enjoyed watching over and over since they repeated these movies fairly often on 3 month cycle and you saw them several times in a year.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 25, 2020 22:00:35 GMT -5
So, you are a US Army general and some of your old spec ops people have been ending up dead; what do you do? Obviously, you hop into your helicopter and go warn John Matrix, the winner of the Most Absurd Surname 1985. The man never reloads once, in this film! So, the basic plot (plot? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) is that John Matrix is a retired spec ops soldier, whose former team has been murdered, one by one. He's been chilling in the mountains with his daughter, teaching her karate and feeding deer, while making homophobic jokes and butchering the English language. His boss ends up dumping him in a world of crap, as one of his ol;d team, bennett, helps take him down and kidnap said daughter (who sucked at karate and was about 4 ft 2, while everyone else was about 6ft 2). He is told that he will fly to some fictional Banana Republic and help restore Nick Tortelli to the dictatorship, or little Jenny gets turned into haggis. He agrees, then kills his minder with one blow and goes hunting for the bad guys. He spots one of them and answers his call.... He chases him through a shopping mall (it was the 80s) and finally catches up with him and drops him off a cliff. Then, he gets Tommy Chong's daughter to help him steal more guns than your average Special Forces A-team would carry and fly down to said Banana Republic (as in Latin America dictatorship, not overpriced casual clothes at the mall). There, he fires 8000 rounds from a 30 round magazine, hurls circular saw blades with enough force to shear off heads, uses an axe to follow Bob Barker's advice about your pets, and then has a knife fight with a man who Cracked magazine called "Freddie Mercury on Steroids..." So, this was a vehicle for Ahnold, who had done one Hercules pic, some bodybuilder documentaries, two Conans and a red Sonja and Terminator. He still hadn't learned how to act, and his one liners are stiffer that a starched monolith; but, his personality was starting to peak through, in his performances. It didn't matter though, when you get entrances like this... So, yeah, our super soldier has a kid, played by pre-pubescent pin-up girl Alyssa Milano, who grew up into a pin-up girl for far sleazier types (didn't get much taller, though) and they make a pretty decent father and daughter team. She does what the script asks of her (be cute for the first 10-15 minutes then be terrorized for the rest of the film). Arnie's boss is character actor James Olson (not the cub reporter), from such films as The Andromeda Strain and Moon Zero Two (and tons of 70s tv, whenever they needed a really creepy criminal) and the guy who is directing the murders of his buddy is Nick Tortelli himself, Dan Hedaya. Working under him are David Patrick Kelly (Warriors, The Crow), Bill Duke (Predator), and Vernon Wells (Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior) as Bennett, the man who rocks a chain mail vest and looks like he hangs out in the bars where Al Pacino went Cruisin'. Then, there is Rae Dawn Chong, daughter of one half of Cheech and Chong (guess which one...)and an actor who makes Arnold look competent. No one is out to win an Oscar here, just create as much mayhem and destruction as can be shoved into a screen, by Joel Silver, in between his talk show and rapid rants... The film is one giant comic book, drawn by Rob Liefeld, with someone adding the feet later. Ironically, the originator of the project was comic book scribe Jeph Loeb, who wrote a more serious film about an Israeli soldier, which Stephe de Souza rewrote to fit Arnie (at Silver's urging, no doubt). Vernon Wells is so over-the-top that he spilled over and came back around! The film gets more and more ridiculous as it goes, until Arnie is driving a bulldozer into a gunshop and then grabbing a cart for a shopping spree, which includes the secret armory, hidden behind a wall that he finds in less than 30 seconds. It hides enough firepower to stage D-Day all over. These guys even had 4 barreled rocket launchers! That's the M-202 Flash launcher, which was designed to fire a high intensity pyrotechnic rocket, with volatile liquids that burned at 2,200 degrees F, designed to replace flamethrowers, after Vietnam. The things had a rep for being unstable and didn't last long, but it compensates for genitalia, on screen. Vernon Wells was the best part of the film and it was a long time before I realized that he was the biker, Wez, in Road Warrior, whose look would launch a thousand musclehead pro wrestlers... I should have realized, since it wasn't a huge leap from this.... to this... The film was also a Guns & Ammo wet dream and Arnie carries enough gear in his little fishing vest to weigh down a mule.... Arnold actually served in the Austrian Army; but, no one ever told him this was a really bad idea.... You see, that little ring is the back end of the cotter pin, which when pulled out, arms the fuse of the hand grenade, which sets off the explosive charge in a few seconds. Tying the ring to a solid object and letting the grenade dangle from the pin, with its own weight pulling against the pin, as the grenade bounces around, is likely to turn Arnie into Swiss cheese (as opposed to his usual Austrian cheese). If memory serves, Arnie served in an armored unit, so he must of sucked up too many diesel fumes. This film has so many great dumb lines that you can write a book... (warning, some NSFW language, blood, and wooden delivery) Arnie would get worse and worse with this stuff, until we get the horror that is Batman & Robin. Still, that's half the fun of his big dumb movies. Next time, watch as high school students defeat the Russian Army, as the NRA's wildest fantasies come true and someone does pry their gun from their cold dead fingers...
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 26, 2020 22:45:20 GMT -5
In 1984, after a decade of appeasement to the Commie world, America finally had a president who stood up to the Russkies and scared the crap out of 'em. This cowboy was ready to blow them away faster than Slim Pickens riding a warhead. So, them sneaky sons of Mother Russia flew a bunch of paratroopers all the way across from Russia, across the DEW Line, down through oh-so polite Canada (Careful now, eh?) and dropped them right over Colorado, next to the high school. Well, them Russkie got a big ol' surprise when them boys grabbed their guns and showed them some Murican guts! In a year of dumb movies, amid a decade of dumb action movies, this is probably the most ridiculous, but in such an endearing way. It helps that director John Milius is bat-s@#$ insane and a damn good writer (Kevin Reynolds is credited with story and co-writing the screenplay, but Milius' fingers are all over the thing), which makes it so entertaining. The film is pure wish fulfillment for every hawk who griped about hippies, liberals and peaceniks selling out the country everyone who wanted the US to win a "good war" again, or anyone who liked to see things blowed up real good! Leaving all that aside, the film is well constructed, makes you care about the characters (as thinly sketched as most of them are), doesn't totally go into Rambo fantasy territory (it's The Big Red One, compared to Commando), and has some story logic to it. The basic premise is this: on a quiet fall afternoon (looks like the fall, maybe very early spring) at the local high school, classes are interrupted by men parachuting to the ground. It takes time for people to notice, then they see soldiers in strange uniforms forming up and a teacher goes outside to see what is going on and is gunned down in front of watching eyes. Tehn, they fire on the school. Mayhem ensues and some of the students take off, including Charlie Sheen and C Thomas Howell. Charlie's brother, Patrick Swayze, turns up just in time (for no good reason, it must be said) and gets them all into his pick up truck and tears off, avoiding the world's worst aimed RPG rocket. They get to a local convenience store (this being Colorado, it carries firearms and ammunition, right next to the beef jerky and slurpee machine) and they load up on food, sleeping bags, weapons, ammo and possibly pornography (it's lonely in the mountains) and head off to the mountains to hide. The Eckert Boys (Swayze and Sheen) have hunted and camped all their lives, so they help the woosie city boys survive, until they sneak back into town and find out from Ben Johnson that the whole town is under the control of the USSR and Cuba. They go further in and poke around and find out their father, Harry Dean Stanton, is in a "re-education camp", awaiting a firing squad. He tells them to get out and don't come back, to consider him dead, then yells at them to avenge him, which the deaf guards fail to hear and stop the boys for questioning, because, dumb Roosians! They go back, help out a pair of girls who have escaped things (Jennifer Grey and Leah Thompson), then launch their own guerrilla war against the Russian soldiers in a rousing scene that had audiences cheering... Audiences literally stood up and cheered. You have to remember the times; America got it's nose busted up in Vietnam and no one came out of it unscathed. Veterans were treated like pariahs by everyday citizens and even within veteran's organizations, like the VFW. Watergate made things worse and the US looked weak with the Iran Hostage Crisis dragging on for over a year, with the failed rescue attempt making our military look impotent. The Soviets invaded Afghanistan and it seemed like all the US could do was protest (apart from arming the mujahadeen and fighting a proxy war against the Soviets, which would come back to haunt us in 2001). The one bright shining moment had been defeating the Russians in hockey, at the Lake Placid Olympics. Ronald Reagan ran on a platform of restoring America's importance in the world, a return to the era where America was a dominant superpower (which hadn't really changed, but it sure didn't feel that way) and a revitalization of the economy and beefing up our armed forces to face new threats. It was a reaction to the Vietnam era and the chaos of the 70s, which had really started around the Bicentennial, as patriotism became en vogue again. John Milius was definitely a Reagan kind of guy and this is a Reagan kind of film. Powers Boothe turns up as an F-15 pilot, shot down in a dogfight, who is found by the Wolverines and joins them on their attacks, helping to teach them some basic infantry tactics (which doesn't really work, if you think about it too much, as Air Force pilots are trained to think in aerial terms, not infantry tactics. It would have made more sense if he had been a Marine pilot, as they must go through The Basic School, where they receive infantry officer training, before going off to flight school). Of course, he isn't going to make it to the end, because he wasn't featured on the poster. As time goes by and the Wolverines prove to be a major nuisance, the Russians bring in a SPETSNAZ (Russian special forces), led by William Smith (Conan's pop) to hunt them down, leading to an ambush with a Hind gunship.... This decimates their ranks and leads to the finale, with a whole lot of death and one Cuban professional soldier. There is so much absurdity in this film, if you stop watching long enough to process. These kids have no military training, yet are able to master Soviet weapons easily. Now, an AK-47 is pretty simple to use and is made to stand up to a lot of abuse. That's one thing; but, they are using RPGs and crew-served, heavy machine guns. That takes training. The average person is not easily going to load an ammo belt into a .50 cal machine gun, especially a Soviet one. Also, loading and arming RPG rockets. It makes a bit more sense after they meet Boothe; but, they are kicking Ruskie ass long before he enters the picture. The Russians are show to be inept and easy targets, despite being combat veterans from Afghanistan. Even if they weren't veterans, they are trained soldiers, who drill constantly in weapons and tactics, not high school kids who have gone deer hunting. The kids know the land; but, that only gets you into survival while hiding. That doesn't turn you into guerrilla fighters. Not without leadership and creative thinking. The biggest absurdity is the Russians fly in, disguised as Aeroflot commercial flights. All commercial flights are heavily tracked, especially those originating in a hostile country. They have to file a flight plan and any plan that takes them across Canada into the Colorado Rockies is going to be questioned by both Canadian authorities and the FAA. Fighters would have been scrambled the first time they deviated from their flight plan. There is also the DEW Line, which had more detection equipment than in any part of the world, precisely to catch any attempt by the Soviets to invade North American airspace, via Alaska or Canada. Yet somehow, they get into Colorado intact. Leaving that aside, there is no good reason for them to be in Colorado, except maybe the Cheyenne Mountain NORAD installation, which is buried under tons of rock and which isn't sitting near some small town high school. It would take a far larger force than could be airdropped by the Soviets to take that facility. For one thing, they couldn't transport enough armor to support the paratroops. You can't load many armored personnel carriers in a cargo plane, let alone tanks. You need sea power to deliver enough to make a difference. The Russians didn't have that, in any capacity. So, don't apply logic or the film isn't much fun. Besides, this is pure fantasy, built around the metaphor of Afghanistan. The tactics employed by the Wolverines reflected actual mujahadeen attacks on the Russians, using horses to move through the mountains, firing CIA-supplied Stinger ground-to-air missiles at Russian Mi-24 Hind gunships, attacking with explosives and small arms, then running away. It also reflected Russian tactics of hunting guerrilla units, using coordinated ground and air units, especially the Hind gunships, which could insert a hunting team and then provide heavy close air support. The Hinds were the main reason the CIA supplied the Stingers to the mujahadeen, as they were getting wiped out, as captured RPGs could not easily be used against helicopters (though the Somalis figured how to do that, when they shot down a US helicopter, leading to the Blackhawk Down rescue operation/fiasco). Although the film is very Conservative (New republic listed it as one of their Top 5 Conservative films), it also found support on the Left, for depicting resistance against an Imperial Power, ala the maquis and Partisans in WW2. Libertarians have praised it as being anti-State. Really, it is crafted so that most viewers probably read their own politics into it. It's a pretty basic outsiders attack small community and a group fights back. They could be settlers in the Old West, partisans in WW2, or colonists in space, attacked by aliens. In fact, that is closer to the origin of the film. Kevin Reynolds conceived the film as a near future story, called Ten Soldiers, about an invasion that leads 10 children (or youths) to run off into the mountains to hide, where they grow and learn to fight. An MGM exec recalled the story as being an anti-war Lord of the Flies, designed to be more of an art house film, on a smaller budget, focusing on the characters. MGM was the one who changed things and brought Milius in, for $1.25 million and a "gun of his choice." The project had an enthusiastic supporter on the MGM board, General Al "I'm in Charge" Haig. He saw this as a metaphor for depicting the fight against the Soviets and Communism and introduced Milius to the Conservative Hudson Institute, where Haig and others developed the scenario of the Soviets attacking via air, overflying Alaska and Canada, and a Leftist government in Mexico allowing troops from Nicaragua to invade the Southwestern US, cutting the nation in two. Even Milius thought Haig took it too far and was insane (as did most in Washington, at one time or another). Milius saw it as an anti-war film, by showing the cost of war (despite glorifying things with scenes of heroic bloodshed) and the toll it would take on the average community, which hadn't seen such things. The Pentagon withdrew support for filming, likely due to how ineffective the US military is made to look in the film, more than any political considerations. The studio's ad campaign made the erroneous and insulting claim that no foreign invader has ever occupied US soil, which ignored the Japanese invasion of the Aleutian Islands, as well as the capture of US territories in Guam, Wake Island and the Philippines. It would have been more correct, though overly complex to claim it was the first outside invasion of the contiguous 48 States since the War of 1812 (Mexican War doesn't count as that was fought around territory that had belonged to Mexico, before Americans moved in). The actors do a fine job, though they had some complaints about the final cut of the film. Powers Boothe felt the editing undercut his character, who he saw as being anti-war, though Conservative and a love scene between Boothe and Lea Thompson, one of her motivating factors to do the film, was cut out due to the age difference. Despite that, the cast is uniformly good top great, carrying out their assigned roles, from Swayze the leader, to Sheen his support, to C Thomas Howell as the vengeful killer who loses his humanity, the mayor's kid who is out of his depth, the scared little kid and the two women, who survived what was likely to be rape. Boothe is a wiser older, professional voice trying to teach the kids that there is more to war than killing, while Ben Johnson is another wise voice that helps them. William Smith is the tough, creative professional sent to hunt themn and Superfly, himself, Ron O'Neal is the sympathetic professional Cuban colonel who tries to do his job as humanely as possible and just wants to make it home to his family. This film is so 80s that it has a power tie and shoulder pads. It has a dark sense of humor, engaging characters, a well-crafted script and pulls you in, even if you don't buy into its politics or have an aversion to violence. It is a total guilty pleasure movie and feels like something that sprang out of the old gung ho war comics of the 50s, rather than the more thoughtful ECs or Blazing Combat, or DC's Sgt Rock or Enemy Ace. This is Commies Bad, Americans Good and proof that the Second Amendment is why all other nations fear to invade American soil (that and the cost of medical treatment here). I confess that as a 17 year old recent graduate, about to head off to college and NROTC training, I saw this several times and reveled in it and cheered when the Wolverines pop out of their spider holes. That said, it didn't take too long in ROTC for grow up enough to recognize the film for what it was-escapist fantasy with a strong Conservative point of view, from a strongly Conservative political era. It was Hollywood taking an interesting idea and running it through their ADD heads and churning out gonzo silliness, which made for big bucks in the summer movie season. Still, these Wolverines were more badass than Logan!
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 26, 2020 22:55:33 GMT -5
ps Next time, more John Milius as we look at his historical flick, The Wind and the Lion, where he throws out history to deliver a Frank Munsey fantasy of bedouin heroes, beautiful women, and Teddy Roosevelt smacking people with big sticks.
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Post by rberman on Jun 27, 2020 7:56:27 GMT -5
I tried to watch Red Dawn with my teen son a few months ago. But we did not make it far. I guess it is of its time.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 27, 2020 8:32:40 GMT -5
I tried to watch Red Dawn with my teen son a few months ago. But we did not make it far. I guess it is of its time. Oh, most certainly. It helps to have a copy of Guns & Ammo or Soldier of Fortune nearby as you watch it.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 28, 2020 16:50:10 GMT -5
Before Red Dawn and Conan, John Milius would direct a historical adventure film, about a Moroccan bandit who kidnaps an American, prompting Teddy Roosevelt to send warships and Marines to free them. Sounds right up his alley, right? The film was called The Wind and the Lion and stars Sean Connery, Candace Bergen, and Brian Kieth as Roosevelt.... In 1904, in Tangier, Mulai Ahmer er Raisuli leads his band of men, on horseback, into the home of American Eden Pedicaris and her two children, killing an English friend and servants and kidnapping the family, riding off into the mountains with them. He demands a ransom of $70,000 for them, and the dismissal of corrupt officials of the Sultan and freedom for the people of the Rif. The Sultan is receiving advice and bribes from the Germans and French, but Teddy Roosevelt, undergoing re-election, is angered and demands their release, sending warships from the South Atlantic Squadron, with a contingent of the Marines. The Raisuli seeks to embarrass the Sultan, who is corrupt and comes to charm Eden and her children, both with his convictions and his personality. The Marines land and act to force negotiations, during which Eden and the children escape, only to be taken by real bandits. Raisuli rescues them but is captured by the Moroccans and their German advisors. Eden forces the Marine captain to rescue Raisuli to keep Roosevelt's word that nothing would happen to Raisuli if the Pedicaris' were freed. The Marines end up fighting with Raisuli's people, against the Moroccans and Germans. Now, I said historical adventure film and this is based on history. Mulai Ahmed er raisuli was a real person, leader of Berber tribes in the Rif, in Morocco, who was at odds with the Sultan and a corrupt government. Their were European powers attempting to gain influence over the Sultan. Teddy Roosevelt was president and did dispatch warships. Pedicaris was released. However, Milius embellishes things, to the point of it being nearly pure fiction, starting with the victim. In the film, this is the Pedicaris who was kidnapped..... along with her children... In reality, this is the Pedicaris that was kidnapped.... along with his stepson... This is the film Raisuli... (a Scotsman on a horse...) and the actual Raisuli..... (My name is Raisuli, Mulai Ahmad er Raisuli) Not quite so romantic, is it? Roosevelt did dispatch warships, backed up by a British torpedo boat and two Spanish ships, because Spain believed the US might force the Moroccans to cede them a port, to use as a base in the Mediterranean. Raisuli had kidnapped Moroccan officials and a few Europeans before, ransoming them back and embarrassing the Sultan. Pedicaris was a leading figure in the expatriate community. Raisuli's men knocked out servants and took Pedicaris and stepson, Cromwell Varley, but killed no one and left mrs Pedicaris (Varley's mother) behind. Ion Pedicaris was about 64, at the time. They were well treated and grew to like raisuli. The UIS tried to put pressure on Morocco to accede to the demands, while trying to enlist the British and French, who stayed out of it. The Germans had no presence there. The US landed a total of 6 Marines, 4 armed with sidearms to protect Ellen Pedicaris and the US Consulate, and 2 more were dispatched to protect the Belgian Legation. The only plan for the Marines was to sieze the Moroccan Custom's House, to force them to negotiate. It was never enacted, as Morocco gave in and Pedicaris w and Varley were released, unharmed. Roosevelt used it as propaganda which aided his successful re-election. Milius chucks most of reality out and turns it into a story from the pages of the Argosy, with Berber tribesmen kidnapping a Western woman and being wooed by her and proving to be a noble man in service to a higher cause. Raisuli is depicted as an honorable man, with deep convictions, who acts to keep his people free and expose the corruption of the weak ruler, who is being manipulated by foreign powers. Roosevelt is depicted as the shrewd politician he was, slightly bats#$% insane (true), with his outdoor obsessions, who gets sage advice from people like Sec of State John Hay (played by John Huston, in full condescending charm). Roosevelt is interested in re-election and looking strong. His goal had been to turn America into a colonial power, both during the Spanish American War and in his own administration, with its saber rattling and gunboat diplomacy. So, what you end up with is a mix of romantic adventure fiction and the tiniest bit of actual history, heavily embellished. Oh, and Milius has the Marines land in force and march through Tangier and take control of the Sultan's palace and fight to free Raisuli, as they respect him. Leaving aside the historical accuracy, it's a damn good adventure film, as Connery is in his element (even if his accent isn't) and Keith makes the best portrayal of Teddy Roosevelt, ever. Raisuli is a romantic figure, part Rudolph Valentino, part TE Lawrence. He oozes charisma and power and wins over the defiant Eden, mostly by living up to his word. Bergen is steeped in a defiant attitude and Victorian speech patterns, who shows her naivety when it comes to politics, believing that government figures are honorable men. Ha; this is post-Watergate! Roosevelt cares only for his image and re-election, though he comes to admire Raisuli John Huston portrays the scheming of John Hay well, speaking to Roosevelt like he is an excitable child, while he tries to work his own angles behind the scenes. Other foreign powers are shown to be duplicitous and the Americans, ultimately, as virtuous. The marines come ashore and restore order and find Eden and Raisuli and help the Good Guys win. All very trite and romantic. Milius knows how to tell a good yarn and a good yarn this is. Milius' commentary track is rather pompous and behind the scenes photos and footage show him wearing a beret with French paratrooper badge on it, as he directs the soldiers in the film. Milius was a wannabe who was turned down for the Marine Corps because of asthma, which helped keep him out of Vietnam, but helped him befriend some who came to USC, while he was at film school, and develop the story that would become Apocalypse Now. However, the film is well shot, well written and well acted, even if the cast skews heavily to tv actors. The film was a modest hit, overshadowed by Jaws at the box office. It did find a place on home video and serves as a bit of a throwback to old Hollywood filmmaking, in an era where New Hollywood was rewriting things. It was also one of Milius few commercially successful films as a director (including Conan and Red Dawn), as he had several flops (Farewell to the king, Big Wednesday, and Flight of the Intruder). Next time, a different movie from Sean Connery and John Huston: The Man Who Would Be King.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 3, 2020 20:20:37 GMT -5
I may take a beating; but, I like Rudyard Kipling's writing. I know, I know; huge supporter of the British Empire and colonialism and all of that; but, he knew how to tell a story and set your imagination ablaze. He wrote great tales of adventure, entertaining tales liek the Just-So Stories,; and, of course, the brilliant animal characters of The Jungle Book (and Mowgli ain't half bad either, spawning most of the jungle heroes that followed). One of my favorite stories from him is The Man Who Would Be King, about a pair of conniving soldiers, who trek into Kafiristan ( a region of Afghanistan), to make themselves kings, with a load of Martini-Henry rifles, to arm a hadn picked army. The story is told through the eyes of a journallist who meats the pair of rogues and become embroiled in a scheme to blackmail a minor rajah. He blows their cover and foils the scheme, but, they turn up with their new one and seeking help with reference material. They use the fact that they are fellow Freemasons and guilt over ruining their past scheme to gain aid, then trek off in search of their fortune. It's a classic tale of adventure, from two of the most colorful characters in English literature. It was perfect for a film, something with which John Huston agreed. He had wanted to originally make the film with Clark Gable and Humphrey Bogart, in the 1950s; but, was unable to get the project together before Bogart's health declined and he died in 1957. Gable died in 1960. Huston tried again, approaching Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas about doing it (that would have been good!) and then Richard Burton and Peter O'Toole (I can only imagine the alcohol consumption between Burton, O'Toole and Huston). He then approached Robert Redford and Paul newman; but, Redford felt it would play better with British actors and it was he who suggested Sean Connery and Michael Caine. It was an inspired choice. Two other key roles were last minute things. Christopher Plummer was cast as Kipling (in name; in the original novella, Kipling is implied but never stated to be the narrator) and Michael Caine's wife, Shakira, was cast as Roxanne, the princess who Daniel Dravot weds. Mrs Caine was born in British Guiana (now modern Guyana), to Muslim Indian parents. She was working as a secretary when her employer urged her to enter the Miss Guyana competition, where she was the runner up. She then entered the Miss World competition, in the UK and came third and, from there, launched a modeling career. She had a couple of minor film roles and then apepared in a 1971 Maxwell House coffeee ad, which was seen by Michael Caine. He fell in love immediately and became obsessed with finding out who she was. A friend in the advertising business, pointed him to her, only to discover she lived very near him. They met and dated and quickly fell in love and were married in 1973 and have a daughter, Natasha. This film was the only time she ever acted with her husband and the last time she would act at all. Since she is not supposed to know Dravot's language, she has few lines in the film, which worked perfectly for her, as her modeling background helped her move for the camera and command attention, without speaking. It gives her a magical presence. The film starts out with Kipling working late in his office, when a ragged, seemingly crazed man enters and he comes to recognize him as Peachy Carnehan. Carnehan then relates the story of he and friend Daniel Dravot, ex-Britiosh Army sergeants who met Kipling and set off to become kings. The story is then told in flashback. Kipling is riding on a train and dozes off. Dravot steals his pocket watch; but, when he notices the Freemason compass symbol on the fob, he contrives to return it, in secret and pins the blame on an Indian man who joined them in the car. Kipling, appreciative, talks with Dravot and Peachy Carnehan, and finds himself enjoying the rogues. They tell him of their plot to blackmail a minor rajah and say they are going to claim they are the editor of the newspaper Kipling works for. He then says that is he, as his train pulls away. He ends up informing the British commissioner and the plot is foiled. Peachey then blackmails the commisioner to escape. daniel and Peachy meet up with Kipling and tell of their new plan to travel into Kafiristan to become kings, by smuggling in a load of rifles, with which to equip a small army. The region is cut off and has never seen firearms, which they figure they can build a formidable army. They sign a contract and have their brother Mason Kipling witness it. The pair set off through the Khyber Pass into Afghanistan and , eventually, to mysterious Kafiristan. they meet up with Billy Fish, a Gurkha soldier from a failed British expedition. He speaks English and the local language and helps them build their army, starting in a small villafge that has been raided often. the rifles and modern infantry tactics gain them victories and their ranks swell, until they attack a new village, and Dravot is hit with an arrow, but survives, thanks to his leather bandolier. The locals believe he has magic powers and the pair are summoned to the holy city of Sikander, where priests question them and tear open his shirt, revealing the masonic symbol he wears around his neck. It matches the symbol left by Sikander (Alexander the Great) and the legend that he would send a son to rule. They believe Daniel is that son and a god. They show him the hidden wealth of Sikander, including massive rubies and gold. Daniel is crowned king, with Peachy as head of his army... Their plan is to wait for the snows in the passes to melt and make off with as much as they can carry. In the meantime, the locals begin appealing to Daniel to settle disputes and he starts acting like a modern Solomon. He comes to believe his own press and it first amuses Peachy, then begins to annoy and anger him, as he says he will take a wife to give them an heir to rule the people. Peachy still wants to "cop the lolly" and make off with it; but, Daniel is serious. He becomes enamored of the princess Roxanne and chooses her for his wife. They are married and he tries to kiss her. Out of fear of a god, she bites at him and draws blood. The locals see that he is mortal and believe he is a fraud. Peachy convinces him to run and they fend off the crowd with rifles, until they are out of ammo and trapped at a rope bridge. Daniel is forced to walk out onto the bridge, singing a hymn as he goes, and then they guideropes are cut and he plummets to his death, miles below. peachy is crucified to pine trees and left to die. Peachy survives until morning and is freed. he makes his way back to India, as a beggar, half mad. He leaves a present for Kipling and departs. The film is a wonderful piece of adventure, with a script that is pretty faithful to Kipling and takes full advantage of the actors in the roles. Caine and Connery are astounding as Peachy and Daniel. They have an instant chemistry, no doubt derived from their similar personal and professional backgrounds. Caine makes full use of his native Cockney and Connery lets the Edinburgh brogue out, while they adopt Victorian speech patterns that add to the lovable nature of the characters. Plummer plays Kipling as both amazed, amused and in awe of the pair and their guile. Shakira Caine is ethereal as the mysterious and silent Roxanne and Saeed Jaffrey performs a great character piece as Billy Fish, the Gurkha who befriends the men. These are great character actors in character roles. Connery gives, in my opinion, the best performance of his career and I have always felt that the Oscar for The Untouchables was more a recognition of this movie and a few others, like The Hill. Here is some fun with the three Englishmen (characters, as Plummer is Canadian and Connery is Scottish)... One of the beautiful things about the story is that it acknowledges that the Empire was built on blood, of the native killed in conquest and the soldiers who fought in the colonial wars, with the definite class distinction involved. This scene shows the pair meeting up with Kipling and signing their contract. It sets up the arduous journey, their plan, and their characters perfectly... Huston was the director for this, adapting his script, with writing partner Gladys Hill. It harkened back to his great adventure films, like the African Queen and Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Huston understood characters and he knew how to shot them and their locale. He also knew how to party with his actors and they spent time boozing it up together, charming Shakira Caine. If ever there was a perfect adventure film, from story to cast to director, this is it. Sadly, those in 1975 thought it old hat and some critics attacked Caine for overplaying the role (Bollox! He's fantastic) though all praised Connery. The filmw as nominated for mostly technical awards at the Oscars, along with adapted screenplay, but won none. Connery was vastly overlooked, but got his due later. Here, Connery is reunited with Saeed Jaffrey and speaks of the film, and fools around a bit, showing that he should have done more comedy... Next, another favorite late-era John Huston film. Imagine a film that unites internationally acclaimed actors Michael Caine and Max Von Sydow, then throws Sylvester Stallone at them, and tops it off with the majesty of Pele. That film was known as Escape to Victory, around the globe; but was just called Victory, in the US. Victoire! Victoire! Victoire!
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