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Post by james on Mar 3, 2020 15:43:59 GMT -5
I was doing this puzzle on jigsaw planet and I think this may be my favorite John Byrne piece. I think it may have been inked by Joe Rubenstein.  |
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Post by berkley on Mar 3, 2020 19:22:58 GMT -5
I like this kind of thing but looking at the individual figures I don't think any of them would be my favourite Byrne drawing of the particular character. Also, the composition doesn't strike me as all the great - bit of a random jumble, almost as if it had been pieced together from a bunch of individual images taken from various sources, rather than done mall of a piece itself.
I still like it though, don't mean to sound too negative.
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Post by beccabear67 on Mar 4, 2020 0:39:11 GMT -5
I'm thinking that's a collage of images from Byrne's Marvel Team-Up run of the '70s, so might be a bunch of different inkers. In fact I'm thinking maybe some were from Champions and other titles to represent their Team-Up appearances, like the Ghost Rider. The Beast I don't think is by Byrne at all.
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Post by berkley on Mar 4, 2020 0:48:43 GMT -5
I'm thinking that's a collage of images from Byrne's Marvel Team-Up run of the '70s, so might be a bunch of different inkers. In fact I'm thinking maybe some were from Champions and other titles to represent their Team-Up appearances, like the Ghost Rider. The Beast I don't think is by Byrne at all.
Yeah, I thought a few of them didn't look particularly Byrne-like - e.g. Captain Marvel, Valkyrie - but that could be down to the inker/embellisher watering down the Byrne style. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Mar 4, 2020 1:26:44 GMT -5
I dunno.. the overall composition of the thing just looks like mush to me. Maybe I'm spoiled by Perez, who could turn dozens of characters into an interesting formal design, with pleasing shapes and nice symmetry.
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Post by james on Mar 4, 2020 7:03:20 GMT -5
Damn guys you're all making really good points I may have to rethink my position.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Mar 4, 2020 7:55:03 GMT -5
I'm thinking that's a collage of images from Byrne's Marvel Team-Up run of the '70s, so might be a bunch of different inkers. In fact I'm thinking maybe some were from Champions and other titles to represent their Team-Up appearances, like the Ghost Rider. The Beast I don't think is by Byrne at all. Good catch! Yeah, only a handful of characters (Omega, Spider-Woman, Nova, Howard the Duck*) never appeared in Team-Up or Giant-Size Spider-Man. And off the top o' my head the only guest stars from the first 60 issues of MTU that I don't see are the (Grant Greer Nelson) Cat and the Man-Wolf. I don't see what you see in the Beast, but... that's a Sal Buscema mouth on Nova. If this is Byrne it is Byrne aping Sal. (Side-note: All of the Byrne issues of Marvel Team-Up are great.) * Howard appeared later on in the series after Byrne left as regular artist. Edit: Also missing the Sons of the Tiger and Dracula. Edit Edit: And Killraven. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 4, 2020 8:00:16 GMT -5
Damn guys you're all making really good points I may have to rethink my position. Why? If you like it, you like it. I think it's a fine piece myself, from a time Byrne came across as a big comic fan. I also like the way the characters aren't simply depicted as a crowd and have different sizes and positions. It's also good that some more obscure characters are included, like Doc Savage and Omega. I'm furthermore partial to the image because it features the classic look of these icons. One thing I never liked in promotional art is when it would feature the "wrong" version of a character just because there was a temporary change in one book (like, say, replacing Thor by Tanarus, or using the spiky version of Ben Grimm). *Edit* I just noticed that Spider-Woman is wearing her original costume, with hair covered. That must be a very early Byrne piece. Thanks for sharing that image; I had never seen it before and it brings echoes of a great era! |
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Post by brutalis on Mar 4, 2020 8:00:23 GMT -5
This is a hot mess of a compilation. Most of the fun is derived in picking out where the clips were taken from.
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Post by james on Mar 4, 2020 8:03:37 GMT -5
Damn guys you're all making really good points I may have to rethink my position. Why? If you like it, you like it. I think it's a fine piece myself, from a time Byrne came across as a big comic fan. I also like the way the characters aren't simply depicted as a crowd and have different sizes and positions. It's also good that some more obscure characters are included, like Doc Savage and Omega. I'm furthermore partial to the image because it features the classic look of these icons. One thing I never liked in promotional art is when it would feature the "wrong" version of a character just because there was a temporary change in one book (like, say, replacing Thor by Tanarus, or using the spiky version of Ben Grimm). Thanks for sharing that image; I had never seen it before and it brings echoes of a great era! Being partially facetious. But you have all brought up great points. I was looking at this as an original piece and as I read posts I realized it was a collage of past works. I would never say no to a nicely framed copy of this either. |
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Post by badwolf on Mar 4, 2020 10:56:29 GMT -5
A lot of the lower half doesn't look like Byrne's.
Spider-Woman appeared in MTU #97.
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Post by rberman on Mar 4, 2020 10:59:56 GMT -5
Link to this puzzle?
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Post by beccabear67 on Mar 4, 2020 13:57:27 GMT -5
I guess it can't be all Team-Up appearances... the original Spider-Woman in that costume was Two-In-One with the Thing, and if it was Byrne Team-ups there would be Havok and Captain Britain. Definitely seem all '70s costumes anyway.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 4, 2020 16:38:50 GMT -5
In a similar vein, I've always loved these two illustrations:   |
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Post by String on Mar 5, 2020 19:33:39 GMT -5
It's still a great piece that I've never seen before now (love how the X-Men faces align the bottom right hand corner) As for Byrne collage pieces, this image has always stuck with me as a favorite:  |
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