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Post by kirby101 on Mar 10, 2020 21:28:43 GMT -5
I never thought much of this cover. Wha--?? Easily one of the greatest ASM and Marvel covers. Romita and Kane's work rarely looked better than this, and the subject instantly plays into all of the dark turns Spider-Man's life had taken in this period. We really disagree on what is a great cover, let alone an all time Romita great cover. The issue before is heads and shoulders above 129.  |
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Post by berkley on Mar 10, 2020 22:12:35 GMT -5
The other thing that surprises me is that according to comics.org it was never reprinted in complete form until the 2000s. There was a partial reprint in 1972 in a Supergirl comic and then nothing for the next 30 years.
And no doubt those post-2000 reprints will have the paper and colouring that I find looks so awful with reprints of old comics, so I'm out of luck.
That's interesting. It never really occurred to me to check the reprint status of this story. I was lucky enough to find a low grade copy of the book to complete that quartet of early Zee appearances (Hawkman, Atom, Green Lantern and Elongated Man in Detective Comics).
I do know it is reprinted in the JLA: Zatanna's Search trade paperback (which would be one of the collections you were talking about) with an absolutely glorious Brian Bolland cover.
One of Bolland's best. I sometimes find his figure work a little stiff but not on this one. Does it reprint all four of those early appearances you mentioned? Might have to have a look for it, unless I can see cheap back-issues somewhere. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 10, 2020 23:12:13 GMT -5
That's interesting. It never really occurred to me to check the reprint status of this story. I was lucky enough to find a low grade copy of the book to complete that quartet of early Zee appearances (Hawkman, Atom, Green Lantern and Elongated Man in Detective Comics).
I do know it is reprinted in the JLA: Zatanna's Search trade paperback (which would be one of the collections you were talking about) with an absolutely glorious Brian Bolland cover.
One of Bolland's best. I sometimes find his figure work a little stiff but not on this one. Does it reprint all four of those early appearances you mentioned? Might have to have a look for it, unless I can see cheap back-issues somewhere. It's got the complete search for Zatara; so, all of the classic crossovers. Should have come with a CD single of ZZ Top's "Legs", for good measure. |
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Post by foxley on Mar 10, 2020 23:41:14 GMT -5
berkleyWhat codystarbuck said. It has all four stories, plus the Batman vs the Witch story that was retroactively made a Zatanna story (so they could justify including Batman in the JLA tale), "Z--as in Zatanna--and Zero Hour" from JLA #51 which is the completion of of the Zatanna's search storyline, and an obscure 10 page story from DC Special Blue Ribbon Digest #5 that gives Zatara's origin and explains the start of Zee's quest.
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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 11, 2020 11:36:02 GMT -5
Lone Star says it's the first appearance of Mr. Sinister. Yeah...but I don't know who that is so it wasn't super helpful. He's a fairly major X-Men villain, though he came after my time, so I can't tell you much about him. I think that later unimaginative writers retconned him to have secretly been behind a whole bunch of things. |
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Post by MDG on Mar 11, 2020 11:45:09 GMT -5
Of course, with a lot of key issues--at least in the past--you didn't know it was going to be "key" when it first came out:   |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 12, 2020 6:14:01 GMT -5
The beauty of some of the key issues is that it debuts a character that was totally unheralded. I had forgotten that the first appearance of Carol Danvers was MSH # 13. The opposite is a cover introducing a character that totally flops. I'm looking at you Triathlon   |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 12, 2020 6:17:09 GMT -5
This issue contains the first appearance of Bloodshot ( albeit in a one page tease at the end of the story). Makes me wonder if it will experience a sales bump because of the upcoming movie.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 8:24:49 GMT -5
I realize this is considered an iconic cover, but...I have always found it to be a horribly drawn cover!!  |
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Post by foxley on Mar 12, 2020 8:33:06 GMT -5
Of course, with a lot of key issues--at least in the past--you didn't know it was going to be "key" when it first came out: But at least covers are awesome, regardless of what the content is.  |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Mar 12, 2020 9:52:10 GMT -5
In this instance I find the premiere key issue underwhelming in comparison to the following key issue. Also we're going to name a cabal of secret scientist with nefarious plans after a women's hairstyle that was popular at the time it was printed?   |
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Post by kirby101 on Mar 12, 2020 10:15:42 GMT -5
I realize this is considered an iconic cover, but...I have always found it to be a horribly drawn cover!! Shuster might not have been the best draftsman, but man, is that a powerful image. I can't image what someone in 1938 seeing this for the first time would think. |
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Post by MDG on Mar 12, 2020 10:56:15 GMT -5
I realize this is considered an iconic cover, but...I have always found it to be a horribly drawn cover!! Shuster might not have been the best draftsman, but man, is that a powerful image. I can't image what someone in 1938 seeing this for the first time would think. Was that drawn as a cover or adapted from a panel?
To throw around some more gasoline, I've always thought this cover was a mess:
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Post by badwolf on Mar 12, 2020 11:17:46 GMT -5
I realize this is considered an iconic cover, but...I have always found it to be a horribly drawn cover!! It always made me wonder why Superman was smashing stuff up. It's not clear that the other guys are baddies. |
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Post by kirby101 on Mar 12, 2020 11:46:11 GMT -5
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