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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 16:13:52 GMT -5
DC felt more grounded and real and Marvel felt more fantastical. I'd be interested to know more about that view.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 16:19:48 GMT -5
For me DC seemed to embrace the inherent silliness of comics. Marvel sometimes tried too hard to be "realistic". I didn't want to read about the world that exists outside my window (even with superheroes in it). That world is depressing. I wanted the more fantasy places.
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Post by profh0011 on Mar 21, 2020 16:21:47 GMT -5
"fantastical"
For some reason, this immediately brings to my mind Garnder Fox's run on JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA. I was reminded me of this when I got ahold of the first 3 Archive books (most of which I had never read before). Just about every single story in there required me to put myself in a certain frame of mind in order to "get into" them at all, and get past the "fantasy science" he kept using, which has NOTHING whatsoever to do with anything in the real world, and only "worked" if you first accepted an impossible premise, and then STUCK with it.
By the way, watch the 1949 serial "BATMAN AND ROBIN" and you'll see the mystery villain in there, "The Wizard", has a machine that feels very much like it stepped right out of a Gardner Fox JLA story. There's simply NO WAY to explain how a thing like that could possibly work. But, it's written that way, so the plot goes along with it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 16:23:04 GMT -5
For me DC seemed to embrace the inherent silliness of comics. Marvel sometimes tried too hard to be "realistic". I didn't want to read about the world that exists outside my window (even with superheroes in it). That world is depressing. I wanted the more fantasy places. I suppose, as my posts hopefully show, that I embraced both. Much like I'll embrace a burger one day and a dessert the day after. DC did embrace the inherent silliness of comics. I mean, in a non-pejorative way, I smile when I see Silver Age covers. There's one where Batman has a zebra outfit on. Not sure what the reason is, but hopefully a story I'll track down. I like the unpredictability of all. If I browse the Silver Age box at a comic con, I know I might find Batman as a merman or Perry White inheriting Superman's powers. I know Marvel didn't necessarily give me that. They were never gonna publish an Iron Fist comic where Iron Fist has an ant head and tries to lead an insect takeover of the world. We aren't going to see Iron Fist sent back to the Stone Age or turned into a merman. That's fine. They just had a different approach. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 16:23:49 GMT -5
My favorite comic universe existed in the Archie Comics. I wanted to live in Riverdale when I was a preteen.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 16:25:40 GMT -5
Oh I read both DC and Marvel and Archie and Charlton and Gold Key... I liked them all. I just preferred DC approach slightly more than Marvel. I miss the differences between DC and Marvel in modern comics. The two companies are too similar today.
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Post by Cei-U! on Mar 21, 2020 17:40:21 GMT -5
I know Gotham City is located in the midwest - because in one story, the state troopers had brown uniforms which seem akin to some midwestern forces. Someone told me Gotham City is in New York, but those were not New York State Police trooper uniforms! That's my argument and I'm sticking to it.  That's purty thin evidence yer basin' thet argyment on, son.
Seriously, Gotham has always been a New York analog (remember, the series was set in NYC for its first couple of years) and thus has always been on the Eastern Seaboard. It was finally established in the Bronze Age that it's located at the southern tip of New Jersey, where it faces Metropolis (which is located at the northern tip of Delaware). Dunno if it still applies but it was true for a couple of decades.
Cei-U! I summon the roadmap!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 17:45:12 GMT -5
In that case, I'm gonna write to DC and ask them to tell me the real story behind midwestern state troopers being active in Gotham City. We need to know! This is a big story, bigger than the Anti-Monitor!
On a serious note, it does make me smile when brown sheriff/state trooper uniforms are used in a lot of comic tales. I don't expect anything else. But it does make me smile.
Incidentally, I read a Wolverine tale where a sheriff in Alaska was investigating a murder. There are no sheriffs in Alaska!
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Post by Batflunkie on Mar 21, 2020 17:47:12 GMT -5
DC felt more grounded and real and Marvel felt more fantastical. I'd be interested to know more about that view. Well Marvel has more of a cosmic scope compared to DC. There's worlds upon worlds beyond our own and you maybe only see a small glimmer of that in Green Lantern (which I love) and Legion Of Superheroes (which was never really for me). I guess what I'm saying is that because DC is primarily restricted to Earth exclusively, it feels "more real"
Sorry if that sounds a little dumb...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 17:51:57 GMT -5
It doesn't sound dumb, it's another view and one I enjoyed reading. And it's a good point!
Regarding my original post, any view one can express may lack nuance. There'll always be exceptions like the one you pointed out.
I do feel Marvel's cosmic characters are more epic in scope than DC. I feel Marvel has the quality as well as the quantity: Living Tribunal, Ego, Eternity, Galactus, Celestials, Thanos, etc, etc. For me, once you get past the likes of Darkseid and the Anti-Monitor at DC, nothing else really grabs me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 17:54:09 GMT -5
In that case, I'm gonna write to DC and ask them to tell me the real story behind midwestern state troopers being active in Gotham City. We need to know! This is a big story, bigger than the Anti-Monitor! On a serious note, it does make me smile when brown sheriff/state trooper uniforms are used in a lot of comic tales. I don't expect anything else. But it does make me smile. Incidentally, I read a Wolverine tale where a sheriff in Alaska was investigating a murder. There are no sheriffs in Alaska! Maybe not on our earth, but in the Marvel 616 universe there obviously is...  just like there someone caught in a gamma explosion becomes a rage monster and not pieces of a corpse scattered throughout the blast radius... -M |
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Post by Batflunkie on Mar 21, 2020 17:54:47 GMT -5
I do feel Marvel's cosmic characters are more epic in scope than DC. I feel Marvel has the quality as well as the quantity: Living Tribunal, Ego, Eternity, Galactus, Celestials, Thanos, etc, etc. For me, once you get past the likes of Darkseid and the Anti-Monitor at DC, nothing else really grabs me. New Gods too, forgot about that. But isn't Earth primarily the central focus of the overall story in that one as well? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 17:55:26 GMT -5
You've got me there, mrp! I need to stop the pedantry. Mind you, not sure why a New York-style taxi showed up in an issue of Sandman set in London. What was that about?! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 17:56:09 GMT -5
You've got me there! I need to stop the pedantry. Mind you, not sure why a New York-style taxi showed up in an issue of Sandman set in London. What was that about?! It was all part of someone's dream...  -M |
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Post by Rob Allen on Mar 21, 2020 18:16:13 GMT -5
I always preferred Marvel in my active collecting years (1960s-70s). Stan's kind of pseudo-science was much easier for me to accept than the DC version. And Marvels, at least in the 60s, had the feeling that we were seeing the characters' lives unfold sequentially; what happened in one issue had an effect on the next. Most DC comics could be read in any order; no matter how extreme the events in any story were, things were always back to the status quo ante by the end.
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