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Post by Prince Hal on May 8, 2020 16:30:10 GMT -5
I'm not generally a fan of painted covers, but that one is a real knockout. This issue must have flown off the racks! I enjoyed the backup stories more than the lead, which didn't even try to build any suspense about Mary being Billy's brother. But I appreciate them streamlining the origin story, which seems like something they just wanted to get out of the way so they could have a girl Marvel take over in Wow Comics. It was probably a no-brainer, if girls were reading Cap's comic, filling a niche; I see they're also pitching Hoppy, so they've got all their bases covered now: adult Marvel, girl Marvel, boy Marvel, and funny animal Marvel. Now if only Steamboat could have gained the power of Shazam... The original John Stewart. Fawcett gave DC (and Mort Weisinger) the blueprint for his version of Superman in more ways than one.
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Post by MWGallaher on May 8, 2020 18:45:53 GMT -5
"But Holy Moley! I can't understand why you changed, Steamboat! How could you say...the word...and be given the powers of Solomon, Hercules, Atlas, Zeus, Achilles, and Mercury? They're all white--and you're a black man!!" I see on the comicbookplus site that Marc Swayze was credited with the art on the Mary Marvel debut story, and that the "art is totally by Swayze according to P. C. Hamerlinck in Alter Ego #147 (2017). Mac Raboy credits for Captain Marvel Jr. figures removed." It sure looks to me like there's visual evidence of a paste-up around Freddy's head here: All of the Freddy/Jr. images look like the work of a different artist to me, so I don't know if I'm convinced that Hamerlinck was correct.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 8, 2020 20:50:58 GMT -5
"I'm Percy Pill; I'm the kid that Alfalfa beats up in the Our Gang comedies!" "I'm Mary Bromfield, but I'm just a girl!" "I'm Freddy Freeman, I'm here to be the token kid, without bringing in a minority." I like that Billy abandons a live radio program to meet someone, just because he received a note that claimed he was dying. Shazam is a total Richard for not telling Billy he had a twin sister, as he claims he knew it all along. Sucks to be Mr Scarlet, but things never go well for those who associate with people named Pinky! I note than Billy eats in the dining room, while Steamboat appears to take his meals elsewhere... All that's missing from this story is an Asian stereotype. The What-Nots story is a rather goofy way to sell war bonds! Mrs Thorntree seems a bit like a proto-Aunt Minerva. And there is my Asian stereotype.... Wait, the kids' tank is called US Killer? This kid a secret Bundist or somethin'? Now we know what killed Fawcett; catering to the speculators with gimmicks... The lead story would be fine if it didn't feature a GIRL hornin' in on the adventure! You do have to wonder if anyone took exception to Mary's costume, as that's a pretty short skirt for the era, kid or no kid. I've always heard stories from that era of rulers being used to measure hemlines for girls at public schools, let alone parochial and other private schools. I always found it curious that Freddy was the only one who got a different costume, out of all the Lt Marvels, Mary Marvel, Uncle Marvel, Freckles Marvel and Hoppy the Marvel Bunny. I was kinds of happy when Jerry Ordway gave her the white costume, to set her apart, though I think I would have changed her cape, too.
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Post by Prince Hal on May 8, 2020 21:27:07 GMT -5
"But Holy Moley! I can't understand why you changed, Steamboat! How could you say...the word...and be given the powers of Solomon, Hercules, Atlas, Zeus, Achilles, and Mercury? They're all white--and you're a black man!!" I see on the comicbookplus site that Marc Swayze was credited with the art on the Mary Marvel debut story, and that the "art is totally by Swayze according to P. C. Hamerlinck in Alter Ego #147 (2017). Mac Raboy credits for Captain Marvel Jr. figures removed." It sure looks to me like there's visual evidence of a paste-up around Freddy's head here: All of the Freddy/Jr. images look like the work of a different artist to me, so I don't know if I'm convinced that Hamerlinck was correct. That's funny. I thought that the Freddy and CM Jr. figures looked more like Raboy's work, too.
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Post by shaxper on May 9, 2020 10:00:10 GMT -5
Discussion #21... Planet Comics #37 (July 1945)Several of you requested that we return to a later era of Planet Comics. Here we are!May 9th thru May 10thA free and legal public domain scan can be found here
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Post by electricmastro on May 9, 2020 13:34:02 GMT -5
Ah, when Fiction House was focusing less on Buck Rogers and more on female eye candy, as well as more dynamic artwork.
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Post by brutalis on May 9, 2020 13:37:55 GMT -5
Have to say I would enjoy this one more if reading full size & not on my cell. As for stories, nothing spectacular or overly creative to be found in the writing but oh yes quite fun artwork. Very clean & unique costume decisions. Guess it all reflects the time as to what would seem futuristic & fantastic. The 1st story must be very reflective of war time experiences and proof that you should never trust a talking sponge, especially a dehydrated alien one! I would truly have fun with drawing a lot of shots & combining characters in scenes from this one.
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Post by beccabear67 on May 9, 2020 14:12:49 GMT -5
The earliest Planet I ever had. Not a lot to say about it. The stories are very basic and short so the main value is in two Fran Hopper illustrated stories, one Murphy Anderson, and one Lily Renee. Although George Evans' The Lost World was the best looking version, Renee's alien nazi zombie type villains were very lurid, she'd had first-hand experience of the real nazis after all. Futura hadn't started yet which was one of the better later serials I thought. Exploding plant men in Mysta was more fantasy but fairly memorable. In 2002, the first Mary Marvel story and that painted cover were available in Shazam Family Annual #1 which I have. I think Mary Marvel was great but her intro isn't near the classic Captain Marvel Jr.s was over a few issues of Master Comics.
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Post by electricmastro on May 9, 2020 14:13:18 GMT -5
The lead story would be fine if it didn't feature a GIRL hornin' in on the adventure! You do have to wonder if anyone took exception to Mary's costume, as that's a pretty short skirt for the era, kid or no kid. I've always heard stories from that era of rulers being used to measure hemlines for girls at public schools, let alone parochial and other private schools. I always found it curious that Freddy was the only one who got a different costume, out of all the Lt Marvels, Mary Marvel, Uncle Marvel, Freckles Marvel and Hoppy the Marvel Bunny. I was kinds of happy when Jerry Ordway gave her the white costume, to set her apart, though I think I would have changed her cape, too. I suppose Susan just felt dressing like that out of form-fitting + preference of style. She’s still shown as being a competent fighter, so I suppose it’s fine.
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 10, 2020 20:46:06 GMT -5
Planet Comics #37 -
Definitely an improvement over the earlier one, especially the art! The first couple especially were really great! The quality did go down hill as the book progressed though.
I really enjoyed Lost World... get a bit of history, cool aliens, and a fun post-apocalytic setting. The only thing missing were characters... which were not very exciting at all.
Mysta seems very much like a female Buck Rogers... I did like the villain alot, but the plot didn't make much sense... why did she try to be one of the soliders, when she was so easy to pick out? Why not use the robot for that? Turns out it was because she wanted to do SOMETHING, since the robot was clearly the hero.
In both stories, there's a female lead, but neither one does much from a 'hero' standpoint, so even though they are the title characters, they seem only a couple steps about the usual damsel in distress.
Red Comet - The art improved, but not much story. The captions says it was a redrawn reprint? That seems weird... or maybe they knew how much better the art is too, and had some deadline doom?
The text piece I read this time, since it was 3 pages, to see if there was more to it. It was a story that was pretty generic from today's standards, but that might not have been the case at the time.
Space Rangers felt like a Silver Age DC story... just goes to show how some of those early ones borrowed from the past. The art is only a bit better than the older issue, and far inferior than the 1st 2 stories.
The last two features, Gale Allen and Star Pirate were just bleh.... Gale is actually a damsel in distress (tied up and everything).. no idea if that happens every time, but it was a boring, non-sensical story. Star Pirate (which was actually his name, not a title or occupation.. the other characters call him 'star') had some cool robots, but that's about it.
Not as much of an improvement as I thought when I flipped through one from 1947 or so, but still a good upgrade.
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Post by shaxper on May 11, 2020 8:23:47 GMT -5
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Post by mikelmidnight on May 11, 2020 11:45:30 GMT -5
I always found it curious that Freddy was the only one who got a different costume, out of all the Lt Marvels, Mary Marvel, Uncle Marvel, Freckles Marvel and Hoppy the Marvel Bunny. I was kinds of happy when Jerry Ordway gave her the white costume, to set her apart, though I think I would have changed her cape, too. I dislike the white costume because it always looks unfinished to me. They ought to have given her a blue cape, that way each of the primary colors (red, white, blue) would be equally balanced between uniforms & capes.
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Post by electricmastro on May 11, 2020 12:52:35 GMT -5
Ah yes, the Blue Beetle from 1939, who more or less was a variation on the Green Hornet.
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Post by shaxper on May 11, 2020 15:29:44 GMT -5
Ah yes, the Blue Beetle from 1939, who more or less was a variation on the Green Hornet. Yes. Seems like the entire book is just heroes we already know with slightly different names. Kind of amazing that a legitimate superhero somehow grew out of these embarrassing roots.
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Post by electricmastro on May 11, 2020 17:08:12 GMT -5
Ah yes, the Blue Beetle from 1939, who more or less was a variation on the Green Hornet. Yes. Seems like the entire book is just heroes we already know with slightly different names. Kind of amazing that a legitimate superhero somehow grew out of these embarrassing roots. I’m not quite as critical since superheroes where a new concept to many writers in general without getting sued by using a Superman clone, and I’m sure Superman himself was accused of being “a John Carter magician combined with circus underwear” back in the day as well, in spite of the altruistic mission of fighting for justice, as well as Batman being a clone of Zorro and the Shadow, but I suppose what really matters is how the character is developed from there.
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