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Post by kirby101 on Jun 22, 2020 20:57:06 GMT -5
I would say that the earlier events didn't start the Events Era. It was later, in the 90s and 00s when Events stopped being organic stories but mandated from on high with a shocking or "important" death needing to be part of the story. All books had to be involved, all ongoing storylines disrupted. An in DCs case a regular reboot of the whole Universe.
We now have annual or even bi-annual events with multiple, extraneous titles tacked on.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2020 21:05:36 GMT -5
If we're talking about Sub-Genres, this is how I usually frame some of the things while disregarding more traditional labels like Golden Age, Silver Age etc. I tend to group things that share thematic, artistic, or cultural zeitgeist commonalities rather than pure chronological groupings, but I often use years as an easier to comprehend label. These are just a few off the top of my head and by no means meant to be a comprehensive list...
Super-Heroes: The War Years (1939-1945)
Post-War Super-Heroes (1945-1956)
Super-Hero Renaissance (1956-1968) (what most folks refer to as the Silver Age in it's most bare bones terms)
Super-Hero Reformation (1968-1986) breaking from traditional super-hero molds and expanding/rethinking what can be done within the super-hero genre, beginning with the end of the split books and things like the philosophy of the Silver Surfer solo book, to Kirby's Fourth World, the O'Neil stuff at DC on Green Lantern and Batman, The Alan Moore Swamp Thing run and culminating with things like Watchman and Dark Knight Returns
Super-Heroes in the Ascendant Shared Universe (1986-present) where the emphasis is on continuity, the shared universe and events rather than the individual books and stories
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Pre-Code Horror (up to the implementation of the Comics Code circa 1954)
Horror Interregnum (1954 to the advent of the direct market in the early 80s when horror could again be done outside the code seal of approval, the era where horror was either blunted by the code or found ways to circumvent it, a la Warren mags)
Modern Horror (1982-ish-present)
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Classic Funny Animals/Anthropomorphic characters (1930s-1980s) Modern Anthropomorphic Animal comics (1980s-present with TMNT being the tent pole dividing line)
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Sword & Sorcery comics Fantasy Comics
Pre-Code Science Fiction (1930s-1954) Code era Sci-Fi (mainstream publishers under code restrictions 1954-1980s) Magazine Sci-Fi (the Heavey Metal/Warren/Underground era) Modern Sci-Fi (rise of direct market circa 1982-Present) ______________
Undergrounds (1960s-1980s) Alternative Comics (1980s-present)
and there should be examinations of war, western, romance, teen, UK comics, bandes dessinees, and other genres with breakdowns by commonalities but I haven't given those as much thought (or any for some I am not familiar with) so the list needs expansion/refinement, editing, alteration etc. as this is really a skeleton of an outline of a first draft of a list and by no means comprehensive or even correct.
-M
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Post by tartanphantom on Jun 22, 2020 21:06:59 GMT -5
Don't forget other era's not so deserving of special mention: The bomber jacket and pouches era The big Gun's era The Heroes Reborn era If by "The big Guns era" you are referring to the mid-90's, there is a certain double entendre there...
Big Guns as in weapons, and Big Guns as in certain anatomical attributes. Both were all over the place in those '90's books.
I don't see how it was physically possible for some of those 90's female characters to walk upright. Don't get me wrong-- as a red-blooded male I am certainly appreciative of the aesthetic of the female form in general, but it got pretty ridiculous during that era for "mainstream" titles. Some of those Marvel and Image characters looked like they were drawn by Bill Ward on a bad acid trip.
On another note regarding sub-categories, I am of the opinion that the time-frame from 1946 to 1956 should be called the "Atomic Era", because comics changed radically after World War II in terms of what genres were popular and what was not-- It was not like the Golden Age at all. However, I think the current designated start of the Silver Age is not only firmly entrenched, but entirely acceptable, as is the Bronze Age.
Finally, I think the "Modern Age" should be further delineated into "Modern" and "Post-Modern or "Post-Millenial", with the division occurring sometime around the year 2000. By this time, the internet as a cultural vehicle was not just a unique fad-- it was firmly a "thing", and was clearly here to stay.
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Post by brutalis on Jun 23, 2020 7:18:44 GMT -5
Don't forget other era's not so deserving of special mention: The bomber jacket and pouches era The big Gun's era The Heroes Reborn era
If by "The big Guns era" you are referring to the mid-90's, there is a certain double entendre there...
Big Guns as in weapons, and Big Guns as in certain anatomical attributes. Both were all over the place in those '90's books.
I don't see how it was physically possible for some of those 90's female characters to walk upright. Don't get me wrong-- as a red-blooded male I am certainly appreciative of the aesthetic of the female form in general, but it got pretty ridiculous during that era for "mainstream" titles. Some of those Marvel and Image characters looked like they were drawn by Bill Ward on a bad acid trip.
You hit the target(s) exactly sir...if you know what I mean, nudge nudge wink wink know what I mean. Say no more.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Jun 23, 2020 11:42:25 GMT -5
On another note regarding sub-categories, I am of the opinion that the time-frame from 1946 to 1956 should be called the "Atomic Era", because comics changed radically after World War II in terms of what genres were popular and what was not-- It was not like the Golden Age at all. However, I think the current designated start of the Silver Age is not only firmly entrenched, but entirely acceptable, as is the Bronze Age.
I was going to mention the Atomic Age. Super heroes lapsed for a decade or so, and you can see the transition in storytelling between the fading heroes of the 40s and some of the early pre-Flash scifi-based superheroes.
And of course, EC Comics.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 23, 2020 19:54:43 GMT -5
There are just two eras in comics: the Cool Old Stuff and the Crap New Stuff Eras.
Of course, the Anti-Matter Universe (or Bizarro World, if you prefer) version of these are the Cool Stuff I Just Got, and the Boring Old Crap Eras.
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Post by Farrar on Jun 23, 2020 20:37:48 GMT -5
If by "The big Guns era" you are referring to the mid-90's, there is a certain double entendre there...
Big Guns as in weapons, and Big Guns as in certain anatomical attributes. Both were all over the place in those '90's books.
I don't see how it was physically possible for some of those 90's female characters to walk upright. Don't get me wrong-- as a red-blooded male I am certainly appreciative of the aesthetic of the female form in general, but it got pretty ridiculous during that era for "mainstream" titles. Some of those Marvel and Image characters looked like they were drawn by Bill Ward on a bad acid trip.
You hit the target(s) exactly sir...if you know what I mean, nudge nudge wink wink know what I mean. Say no more. Well, "guns" is also a long-time slang term for big heavily-muscled biceps and triceps, so those are the "anatomical attributes" that popped into my mind. I have no interest in 1990s comics, but from what I've seen online of them weren't biceps/triceps also similarly exaggerated during that era, the mid-'90s? Or am I thinking of another time?
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Post by tartanphantom on Jun 23, 2020 21:17:16 GMT -5
Farrar, you are indeed correct in your thinking re: biceps in the 90's era.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 24, 2020 5:18:10 GMT -5
If by "The big Guns era" you are referring to the mid-90's, there is a certain double entendre there...
Big Guns as in weapons, and Big Guns as in certain anatomical attributes. Both were all over the place in those '90's books.
I don't see how it was physically possible for some of those 90's female characters to walk upright. Don't get me wrong-- as a red-blooded male I am certainly appreciative of the aesthetic of the female form in general, but it got pretty ridiculous during that era for "mainstream" titles. Some of those Marvel and Image characters looked like they were drawn by Bill Ward on a bad acid trip.
You hit the target(s) exactly sir...if you know what I mean, nudge nudge wink wink know what I mean. Say no more. I remember it being called the Bad girl era.
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