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Post by rberman on Jun 26, 2020 12:27:47 GMT -5
Deadman's costume is rather pointless, don't you think? I mean, I understand it was what he was wearing when he was killed, but I don't think very many people take a change of clothes into the afterlife. But, I suppose he needs one just to keep his book out of the "adult section". No one really cares to see a naked ghost walking around...
Likewise The Spectre, who has no pants but holds his cloak discreetly throughout Kingdom Come.
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Post by brutalis on Jun 26, 2020 13:38:11 GMT -5
Ghost Rider Johnny blaze simply kept his leather stunt biker outfit. And Danny Ketch shopped at the local S&M shop. Nothing more practical than that!
Werewolf by Night bought up all the green pants he could find at Salvation Army each month.
Dracula put his burial tuxedo and dinner cape to good use.
All Metamorpho ever needed was a change of his swimming trunks. Pretty easy and sensible shopping there IMO.
Always wondered where Man-Wolf found so many of the radiation/astronaut suits he seemed to turn up in. After about the fifth change you would think that he can figure out they just don't work?!?
Does Man-Thing/Swamp Thing count in wearing their front and back yard? That really makes sense when you are a muck monster!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 14:09:30 GMT -5
Can I bring G.I. Joe into the conversation? See, I don't consider the Joe's or Cobra as costumes. They are realistically speaking, military uniforms. Though they did get more colorful and fanciful and creative as more figures were crafted. I much preferred the earliest all green with armor and specifics to their roles look. This is certainly not a practical or pragmatic ‘uniform’, but it sure as hell is colourful:
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Post by MDG on Jun 26, 2020 15:55:28 GMT -5
Does Man-Thing/Swamp Thing count in wearing their front and back yard? That really makes sense when you are a muck monster! They just made sure they know where the light source was so any problematic parts were in shadow.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 16:18:28 GMT -5
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Post by String on Jun 26, 2020 17:10:33 GMT -5
Something that I've never quite understood about DD's costume, his eyes are clearly covered up. Given that Matt is primarily a hand-to-hand, punch-you-in-your-face fighter, I would think his opponents would notice this. So why is it the villains, the bad guys, the mobsters, the evil henchmen never question how DD 'sees' to fight if they can't see his eyes? Flash - sleek and slim, one bold color with lightning motifs, the very essence of speed. One better, Kid Flash costume worn by Wally West. If I could run fast, I'd want to feel the wind in my hair too.
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Post by berkley on Jun 26, 2020 17:11:16 GMT -5
I never really found the idea of Deadman very compelling but I think it would have looked better if he'd been shown wearing the clothes he was buried in, presuambly a nondescript suit of some kind. The deathly pale skin would have been sufficient as a visual identifier and probably would be more effectively creepy-looking than the circus acrobat's costume. Come to think of it, I'm surprised they haven't done this already, at least in the Vertigo supernatural universe if he's ever appeared there.
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Post by badwolf on Jun 26, 2020 17:15:38 GMT -5
Something that I've never quite understood about DD's costume, his eyes are clearly covered up. Given that Matt is primarily a hand-to-hand, punch-you-in-your-face fighter, I would think his opponents would notice this. So why is it the villains, the bad guys, the mobsters, the evil henchmen never question how DD 'sees' to fight if they can't see his eyes? I never saw his eyes as covered up. Thought they were just standard "superhero lenses."
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Post by rberman on Jun 26, 2020 18:32:09 GMT -5
I never really found the idea of Deadman very compelling but I think it would have looked better if he'd been shown wearing the clothes he was buried in, presuambly a nondescript suit of some kind. The deathly pale skin would have been sufficient as a visual identifier and probably would be more effectively creepy-looking than the circus acrobat's costume. Come to think of it, I'm surprised they haven't done this already, at least in the Vertigo supernatural universe if he's ever appeared there. Or this:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 19:22:19 GMT -5
I dont' mind the circus costume on Deadman, as he died wearing it, didn't he? as to looks, I LOVE Kelley Jones' version:
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 26, 2020 19:51:54 GMT -5
I never really found the idea of Deadman very compelling but I think it would have looked better if he'd been shown wearing the clothes he was buried in, presuambly a nondescript suit of some kind. The deathly pale skin would have been sufficient as a visual identifier and probably would be more effectively creepy-looking than the circus acrobat's costume. Come to think of it, I'm surprised they haven't done this already, at least in the Vertigo supernatural universe if he's ever appeared there. Don't you think a circus performer would be more likely to be buried in his performing costume? Lugosi was buried in his Dracula cape/costume and El Santo was buried wearing his iconic silver mask. It makes perfect sense that Boston Brand would be buried in his stage costume, though that high collar would have been a hindrance, for an aerialist. Seems to me there has been at least one story where it is suggested that his appearance is down solely to how he saw himself, and that it could change.
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 26, 2020 20:06:34 GMT -5
The Dark Phoenix costume makes sense because it would go with the '70s Pontiac Firebird car! Or non-evil Green version...
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 26, 2020 20:13:06 GMT -5
Seems to me there has been at least one story where it is suggested that his appearance is down solely to how he saw himself, and that it could change. Beat me to it.
Cei-U! I summon the second place finish!
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 26, 2020 20:23:20 GMT -5
Can I bring G.I. Joe into the conversation? You have impractical, unsafe 'uniforms' like this (who'd want to be in a war wearing this?): But then you have something like this: For those 'unenlightened souls' who haven't yet embraced G.I. Joe, the one on the left is Storm Shadow (a villain), the one on the right is Snake Eyes (a hero). Snake Eyes' 'uniform' is practical, sleek - and enables him to blend in. His accessories are necessary and not overdone. I don't doubt some artists might have given him armour, 1,000 accessories, etc, etc. I prefer the classic look. You mean besides these guys..... These guys..... (The 5 Sullivan Brothers, who died together, off Guadacanal) and this guy... (writer/artist Sam Glanzman) ? Shipwreck is wearing the dungaree working uniform of enlisted sailors, from 1913 to the late 90s, when they were replaced by coveralls and the Navy digital camouflage uniform. The uniform is correct, with a couple of notable exceptions (no, not the bird craping down his back):he is out of uniform, because he shirt is unbuttoned (though, as you see in the first photo, that wasn't enforced in tropical climates, during heavy work details) and, more importantly, based on his rank insignia, he is wearing the wrong uniform. His insignia indicates he is a chief petty officer and the working uniform of chiefs is the khaki, same as the officers (but with different insignia, cap device and belt buckle). When he made chief, he'd give up the dungarees and "dixie cup" hat. Given he is in a combat role, he'd wear combat utilities, same as the Navy SEALs, SeaBees, and divers. The uniform was quite practical for a shipboard environment. The denim trousers were extremely tough and long wearing, as was the chambray shirt. The blue shades didn't make them stand out, in a general quarters situation. The trousers had bell bottom cuffs (or "flares," in the UK) so that the trousers could be slipped off, over the chukka boots, to allow them to be turned into a flotation device (tie the legs together, button the fly and gather the waste and blow air into them, displacing water. Then slip your arms and chest through the loop and you can float for hours). The "dixie cup" hat (so-named because it resembled the Dixie Cub brand of stackable, disposable cups) was designed so the brim was turned up for better visibility, while protecting the head, or turned down in very heavy sunlight. It could also be used as a floatation device, by turning down the brim and capturing a pocket of air under the hat. When we qualified as swimmers, in the Navy, part of our test involved jumping fully clothed into the water and using our clothes for water survival. The reason you wanted the pants to be pulled off over the boots was you needed to have your feet protected against debris, sharks, and coral. The JOE characters were a mix of actual military and fantasy, in just about every character. Scarlet is wearing less practical gear; but, her specialty was supposed to be infiltration. Not sure how that is accomplished in a yellow-orange leotard; but, there you go. Snake Eyes ninja suit never made sense, anymore than it does for actual ninjas, who didn't wear things like that. The masks inhibit vision and his visor makes it even worse. Black isn't that stealthy at night, compared to olive green. That whole idea of ninjas in the black outfits comes from kabuki theater, where anything "invisible" appears draped in black, including "unseen assassins." Real ninja were just spies, wearing everyday clothing.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 26, 2020 20:27:47 GMT -5
ps It looked better on Shore Leave, on the Venture Brothers.
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