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Post by shaxper on May 27, 2021 14:15:45 GMT -5
After the Thin Man (1936) Another Thin Man (1939) Shadow of the Thin Man (1941) The Thin Man Goes Home (1945) Song of the Thin Man (1947) A few other early examples: The Golem: How He Came Into This World (1920) The Testament of Dr. Mabuse (1933) Bride of Frankenstein (1935) and all the Universal monster sequels that followed.
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Post by foxley on May 27, 2021 16:47:24 GMT -5
Bride of Frankenstein (1935) and all the Universal monster sequels that followed. Actually Bride of Frankenstein does feature Henry Frankenstein's bride Elizabeth in a prominent role, as well as Elsa Lanchester as the 'bride' of the creature. The next film Son of Frankenstein is about Henry and Elizabeth's son Wolf, and Ghost of Frankenstein does feature a brief appearance by Henry's ghost (who is the only ghost in the movie). It is not until Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man that the title refers unequivocally to the monster and not the creator.
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Post by Mister Spaceman on May 27, 2021 19:52:05 GMT -5
While we're on the sidebar of illogical sequel titles, I Still Know What You Did Last Summer is a notoriously dumb one, given that its events take place a year after those depicted in I Know What You Did Last Summer.
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Post by Mister Spaceman on May 27, 2021 19:55:23 GMT -5
As for favorites, you gotta love The Naked Gun 2 1/2: The Smell of Fear and The Naked Gun 33 1/3: The Final Insult.
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Post by shaxper on May 27, 2021 20:01:32 GMT -5
Bride of Frankenstein (1935) and all the Universal monster sequels that followed. Actually Bride of Frankenstein does feature Henry Frankenstein's bride Elizabeth in a prominent role, as well as Elsa Lanchester as the 'bride' of the creature. The next film Son of Frankenstein is about Henry and Elizabeth's son Wolf, and Ghost of Frankenstein does feature a brief appearance by Henry's ghost (who is the only ghost in the movie). It is not until Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man that the title refers unequivocally to the monster and not the creator. Or we can talk Son of Dracula in which at no point is it ever suggested that the villain is the son of Dracula. He's just Lon Chaney Jr. playing Dracula. Still, each of these are sequels to a franchise, regardless of who the titles are referring to.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 27, 2021 21:21:00 GMT -5
With a tip o’ the hat to Errol Flynn. 😏 Another fine Australian export. A real tasmanian devil!
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Post by codystarbuck on May 27, 2021 21:36:23 GMT -5
Speaking of the Three Musketeers, I always liked the title of Dumas's own sequel to that first book, Twenty Years After - and the idea behind it as well. I suppose my preference would be for completely different titles rather than the sequential numbers or variations on the original. Lester directed an adaptation of that, with most of the cast back, as Return of the Musketeers; but, sadly, Roy Kinnear (Planchet) fell from a horse and was killed, during filming. It does seem to cast a pall over the sequences that were obviously done later. It messes around a bit with The Twenty Years After, though not as badly as most versions of The Man in the Iron Mask. Dumas actually wrote those as serials (same with Count of Monte Cristo), first, which is why they seem so episodic, for novels. The next sequel is technically The Vicomte de Bragalonne; but, that usually gets split into three parts: The Vicomte de Bragalonne, Louise de Lavallier and The Man in the Iron Mask. In some editions, Vicomte de Bragalonne gets split into two segments, with that title for the first and The Ten Years Later, as part 2. Along similar lines, there are film sequels to The Count of Monte Cristo, with Son of Monte Cristo and Return of Monte Cristo. Roland Lee directed the first two, in 1934 and 1940, respectively, then Henry Levin directed Return, in 1946. All three were produced by Edward Small. Robert Donat is Dantes in the first and Louis Hayward stars as descendants of the original count, in each (different ones). Son of is pretty much a swipe of Prisoner of Zenda, with some Zorro touches thrown in. Return has a descendant imprisoned on devil's Island, plotting to escape.
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Post by MWGallaher on May 27, 2021 21:44:14 GMT -5
And of course, Universal's MUMMY "sequels" do not follow from the originals, and are essentially remakes of each other, all violating continuity with their predecessors. In Universal's monster stable, I was always intrigued by the two "House of" movies, which struck me as a very odd title choice. "Castle of Frankenstein" seems like it would have been a more evocative title. And the other one didn't even take place in Dracula's "house" at all. Another Universal monster sequel whose title I like is THE CREATURE WALKS AMONG US. It sounds like one of Stan's cover blurbs from an Atlas monster comic! From Hammer's monster series, I like DRACULA HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE, FRANKENSTEIN MUST BE DESTROYED, and over at Toho, I'm quite fond of DESTROY ALL MONSTERS!
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Post by codystarbuck on May 27, 2021 21:46:42 GMT -5
Prince Hal writing that the title "The Thin Man" originally did not refer to William Powell's character reminded me of this one: A Shot in the DarkThe second movie to feature Peter Sellers as Inspector Jacques Clouseau. The Pink Panther was a diamond whose theft was the subject of the first film. Starting with the fourth film in the series, the phrase "Pink Panther" was in the title regardless of whether the diamond was part of the story. Wikipedia says that the diamond was in six of the eleven films. A Shot in the Dark features a different naming convention mostly because it was an adaptation of a stage play by Harry Kurnitz (based on Marcel Achard's L'Idiote), in which Clouseau was inserted, rather than an original Clouseau script. The title is the title of Kurnitz's play. Sellers had been signed to star in an adaptation, but didn't like the script (this was even before the release of The Pink Panther). Walter Mirisch approached Blake Edwards about taking it over; but, he was reluctant to do so, until they allowed him to insert Clouseau into the story. There is another non-Pink Panther film, featuring Clouseau, called Inspector Clouseau, with Alan Arkin. Sellers, Edwards and Henry Mancini were all busy with The Party; but, Walter Mirisch wanted to proceed with another Clouseau film and hired Bud Yorkin to direct and Arkin to star. It's nowhere near as good as Edwards films, but it isn't bad. More amusing, at times, than hilariously funny. Still better than those later Pink Panther films, following Revenge of the Pink Panther. Funny enough, A Shot in the Dark is the one that introduces Cato and Chief Inspector Dreyfuss to the series.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 21:47:00 GMT -5
I am surprised no one has mentioned The Empire Strikes Back. As a kid and a huge Star Wars fan, I loved that title and that it wasn't called Star Wars 2.
I also like the sequence of titles in the Romero zombie movies-Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead, then Day of the Dead.
I also like Road Warrior as a title for the Mad Max sequel, though they go back to Mad Max for the third with Mad Max 3 Beyond Thunderdome.
On the flipside, ones that seem painfully obnoxious to me are the Alvin and the Chipmunks sequel titles...Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel and Alvin and the Chipmunks Chipwrecked.
-M
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Post by codystarbuck on May 27, 2021 21:47:30 GMT -5
And of course, Universal's MUMMY "sequels" do not follow from the originals, and are essentially remakes of each other, all violating continuity with their predecessors. In Universal's monster stable, I was always intrigued by the two "House of" movies, which struck me as a very odd title choice. "Castle of Frankenstein" seems like it would have been a more evocative title. And the other one didn't even take place in Dracula's "house" at all. Another Universal monster sequel whose title I like is THE CREATURE WALKS AMONG US. It sounds like one of Stan's cover blurbs from an Atlas monster comic! From Hammer's monster series, I like DRACULA HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE, FRANKENSTEIN MUST BE DESTROYED, and over at Toho, I'm quite fond of DESTROY ALL MONSTERS! Don't forget the Gamera film, Destroy All Planets!
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Post by codystarbuck on May 27, 2021 21:49:34 GMT -5
I am surprised no one has mentioned The Empire Strikes Back. As a kid and a huge Star Wars fan, I loved that title and that it wasn't called Star Wars 2. I also like the sequence of titles in the Romero zombie movies-Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead, then Day of the Dead. I also like Road Warrior as a title for the Mad Max sequel, though they go back to Mad Max for the third with Mad Max 3 Beyond Thunderdome. On the flipside, ones that seem painfully obnoxious to me are the Alvin and the Chipmunks sequel titles...Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel and Alvin and the Chipmunks Chipwrecked. -M Outside the US, the film was Mad Max 2; but, since the original hadn't done well in the US (thanks in part to the American dubbing), they dropped that title and called it The Road Warrior.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 27, 2021 21:52:54 GMT -5
Getting back to the Planet of the Apes, I loved the titles they gave to the movie edits of the tv series episodes:
Back to the Planet of the Apes Forgotten City of the Planet of the Apes Treachery and Greed on the Planet of the Apes Life, Liberty and Pursuit on the Planet of the Apes (my favorite of the bunch, title-wise) Farewell to the Planet of the Apes
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Post by shaxper on May 27, 2021 21:55:20 GMT -5
And of course, Universal's MUMMY "sequels" do not follow from the originals, and are essentially remakes of each other, all violating continuity with their predecessors. The second film is entirely unrelated to the first, but the rest of the films follow from there. While there isn't any real continuity across those films, the "rules" for defeating the mummy at least remain consistent from the second film on. House of Frankenstein made sense in a less literal way, almost like the lineage or clan of Frankenstein. House of Dracula doesn't make any darn sense either way. Dracula A.D. 1972 is my personal favorite in terms of names. Really got my attention right off the bat.
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Post by shaxper on May 27, 2021 21:56:12 GMT -5
And of course, Universal's MUMMY "sequels" do not follow from the originals, and are essentially remakes of each other, all violating continuity with their predecessors. In Universal's monster stable, I was always intrigued by the two "House of" movies, which struck me as a very odd title choice. "Castle of Frankenstein" seems like it would have been a more evocative title. And the other one didn't even take place in Dracula's "house" at all. Another Universal monster sequel whose title I like is THE CREATURE WALKS AMONG US. It sounds like one of Stan's cover blurbs from an Atlas monster comic! From Hammer's monster series, I like DRACULA HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE, FRANKENSTEIN MUST BE DESTROYED, and over at Toho, I'm quite fond of DESTROY ALL MONSTERS! Don't forget the Gamera film, Destroy All Planets! Much as I love that name even more, that was only its name in the US release.
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