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Post by badwolf on Sept 10, 2021 19:53:51 GMT -5
He's wearing one of those hats crooks always wear.
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 10, 2021 21:35:32 GMT -5
And at various times Spider-Man and Batman are wanted by the cops, but they still believe a note from them stuck to a tied up hood?
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Post by Graphic Autist on Sept 10, 2021 21:46:09 GMT -5
He's wearing one of those hats crooks always wear. A trope within a trope!
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Post by Prince Hal on Sept 10, 2021 23:11:47 GMT -5
He's wearing one of those hats crooks always wear. There are two go-to types of headgear for crooks: the flat cap... and the fedora...
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Post by badwolf on Sept 11, 2021 9:34:03 GMT -5
I was thinking of one of these things:
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Post by profh0011 on Sept 11, 2021 10:06:07 GMT -5
^^ All he needs is the word "HENCHMAN" in large white letters on his shirt.
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Post by String on Sept 17, 2021 11:39:12 GMT -5
I know this is related to the limitations of the comic medium itself but I think panels showing a couple kissing overlayed with dialogue balloons to be really distracting. What is supposed to be a romantic tender moment is spoiled by the notion that someone is speaking while doing so.
A man can fly, yes, but talking while kissing, no!
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Post by brutalis on Sept 18, 2021 14:09:53 GMT -5
How about a loved one or family member who is "hating" the hero for misconceptions that the hero caused or didn't prevent the injury or death of a loved one or family member? A very tired and over used idea after decades of comics stories.
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Post by profh0011 on Sept 18, 2021 14:24:13 GMT -5
How about a loved one or family member who is "hating" the hero for misconceptions that the hero caused or didn't prevent the injury or death of a loved one or family member? A very tired and over used idea after decades of comics stories. When it comes to the Gwen Stacy hating Spider-Man for the death of her father thing, I'm still not sure who we can REALLY blame for this... JOHN ROMITA, who admitted he was the "de facto editor" and writer from the moment he replaced Steve Ditko... or GIL KANE, who loved to "contribute", and it's painfully noticable how many long-running characters suddenly got violently BUMPED OFF every time he would get on a book.
2 years later, it was Roy Thomas who casually suggested bumping off another character to "shake things up"... John Romita eagerly suggested Gwen, who I suspect he hated and really wanted to get rid of... and Gil Kane actually did the story. Gerry Conway at the time was ONLY doing dialogue, and INSISTED on the letters pages it WASN'T HIS FAULT. But, it a fit of absurd irony, decades later, in the Masterworks reprint, he CLAIMED it was "all his idea". B***S***!!! B***S***!!!
In this latter case, it was Harry Osborn who blamed Spider-Man (and then Peter) for killing his father, COMPLETELY oblivious to the fact that Norman was a CAREER CRIMINAL, and had murdered Gwen Stacy (who Harry once had the hots for). It's hard to have any sympathy for a character like that (Harry I mean).
I've lost track decades ago of how many times Spider-Man as a series "jumped the shark".
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Post by badwolf on Sept 18, 2021 15:55:12 GMT -5
In this latter case, it was Harry Osborn who blamed Spider-Man (and then Peter) for killing his father, COMPLETELY oblivious to the fact that Norman was a CAREER CRIMINAL, and had murdered Gwen Stacy (who Harry once had the hots for). It's hard to have any sympathy for a character like that (Harry I mean). Lots of people still love a parent despite terrible things they've done.
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Post by tarkintino on Sept 18, 2021 16:33:57 GMT -5
In this latter case, it was Harry Osborn who blamed Spider-Man (and then Peter) for killing his father, COMPLETELY oblivious to the fact that Norman was a CAREER CRIMINAL, and had murdered Gwen Stacy (who Harry once had the hots for). It's hard to have any sympathy for a character like that (Harry I mean). Lots of people still love a parent despite terrible things they've done. Of course. Life is not as black and white as some would suggest. In Harry's case, he was still recovering from a relapse from the effect of drugs and was in a very emotionally compromised state at the time. When he discovered his father corpse, he was likely overwhelmed with horror--and hatred. Norman was his father, not some random criminal he never had any connection to. It was great plotting for a title that was the best of Marvel.
Where Gwen blaming Spider-Man for George Stacy's death is concerned, once again, the brilliant creatives of that period of TASM made characters behave like real people (one of the reasons for the title's widespread appeal), and for Gwen, with eyewitnesses seeing Spider-Man carry Capt. Stacy's body away, only for the man to be found dead, quite obviously Gwen would blame / hate Spider-Man.
No matter what other comic used this trope, TASM worked dramatic wonders with their two cases.
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Post by Graphic Autist on Sept 18, 2021 17:45:08 GMT -5
I still don’t understand why Gwen and Norman were resurrected. I had been reading comics for 10 years, and even 10 years before THAT they died. I take a break from reading comics for almost a decade and find out they’re both back. And slept with each other. Gross.
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 18, 2021 18:40:40 GMT -5
I still don’t understand why Gwen and Norman were resurrected. I had been reading comics for 10 years, and even 10 years before THAT they died. I take a break from reading comics for almost a decade and find out they’re both back. And slept with each other. Gross. That never happened. It's a lie, I can't hear you. NANANANANAAA!
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Post by impulse on Sept 20, 2021 11:35:49 GMT -5
Not only is the trope of characters hating the hero for misconceptions annoying on its own, it's even worse when it's poorly done. I recall how utterly disappointed and frustrated I was with how they handled the Harry/Peter thing in Raimi's Spider-Man 3. That movie had more than its share of problems already, but making it a clunky avoidable misunderstanding was super annoying.
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Post by Jeddak on Sept 20, 2021 12:53:30 GMT -5
I still don’t understand why Gwen and Norman were resurrected. I had been reading comics for 10 years, and even 10 years before THAT they died. I take a break from reading comics for almost a decade and find out they’re both back. And slept with each other. Gross. That never happened. It's a lie, I can't hear you. NANANANANAAA! Well, according to the latest retcon, they never really slept together. It was all false memories and clones, part of a plot by Harry and Mysterio. Or Kindred, or somebody. Not really paying attention.
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