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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 16, 2021 14:25:04 GMT -5
The trailer just dropped for the new Flash movie and although it mostly just teases things I have to say I enjoyed hearing Keaton's voice: |
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Post by majestic on Jun 15, 2023 18:11:28 GMT -5
Just saw it. As usual it was a bit uneven. Some really good scenes mixed in with some average story telling. Acting was really good. As expected CGI overload. Overall good enough to watch it again.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 15, 2023 18:33:25 GMT -5
Was unlikely to see it anyway, but no way I'm giving Ezra Miller money.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 15, 2023 19:25:27 GMT -5
Glen Weldon's review on NPR was pretty mixed, some good, some flat stuff. I don't particularly care, if it becomes available to watch for free, I might; but I am not paying theater prices for it or anything else I've seen out there. I just don't find the modern theater experience worth it and have felt that way for the better part of the last 20 years. Better to watch on a tv screen, either as a rental or on a cable/streaming channel.
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Post by majestic on Jun 15, 2023 20:17:33 GMT -5
When my youngest leaves home I suspect I will stop going to movies. It was a way to spend some time with each of my 3 daughters by sharing the movie experience and a dinner. Some daddy-daughter time. Once my two older daughters got married these "dates" went away. But I still get some lunch dates in with them.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jun 15, 2023 22:24:13 GMT -5
Was unlikely to see it anyway, but no way I'm giving Ezra Miller money. Waitaminnit. (Hadn't been aware of any of this. I guess I don't watch enough Entertainment Tonight.) How did Miller get to continue being in a big DC movie like this when it's obvious, that at the very least, "the Flash" is a big PR nightmare from way back? |
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Post by MWGallaher on Jun 16, 2023 18:55:21 GMT -5
Was unlikely to see it anyway, but no way I'm giving Ezra Miller money. Waitaminnit. (Hadn't been aware of any of this. I guess I don't watch enough Entertainment Tonight.) How did Miller get to continue being in a big DC movie like this when it's obvious, that at the very least, "the Flash" is a big PR nightmare from way back? The movie was already filmed by the time the anti-Miller cascade started. I find something very fishy about the whole controversy, and I've seen a lot of red flags in online discussion of Miller (and probably not the red flags you might think I'm talking about), but I'm not stepping into that minefield any further. I saw the movie today, and I thought it was inventive, touching, visually impressive, with a unique tone that separated it from the usual cinematic superhero fare. As for PR, we're in a different era of promotion. Films no longer need to have the stars making the rounds of talk shows that don't really generate traffic like they once did. The target audience is going to be hyped more effectively by trailers online than by seeing Ezra Miller on The Today Show. |
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Post by tarkintino on Jun 18, 2023 22:27:10 GMT -5
I'd say The Flash was 60% strong, 40% typical blockbuster filmmaking of this CG-battered period. The entire reason Barry ends up creating the plot of this film carries some weight, particularly at the end (as it should), but I am not now, nor have I ever been a fan of the "bigger explosions / bigger, louder everything" approach to most superhero films, with the MCU being the most guilty of that by far (one of the infinite reasons I cannot stand 98% of the MCU).
If the "bigger" crap was removed, I would've enjoyed the film more than I did. Some people were happy to see Michael Keaton's appearance, but he did nothing for me, as he was a terrible choice for Batman in 1989, and that remains the case in 2023. On the other hand, seeing Affleck's Batman, Gadot's Wonder Woman and Calle's Supergirl was close to being my favorite part of the film,as the first two always made perfect film versions of the characters, and Calle, short as her time had been, was a Supergirl I wanted to see more of (unlike acting-challenged Helen Slater or the awful Melissa Benoist from the dime store CW series).
Now that The Flash is history, only Aquaman II and Blue Beeetle are left to be released in the DCEU, before it is rebooted as Gunn's Guardians of DC's Right to Become MCU 2.0
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The Flash
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 26, 2023 15:35:36 GMT -5
I saw it over the weekend.
I thought the first ten minutes or so was just about the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen in a super-hero movie. And then it was kind of boring and predictable as Flash himself creates a situation that threatens all the multiverses and all of creation is at risk.
But then Michael Keaton was in it, and then Supergirl and then it was actually a pretty good movie for a while. Honestly, I enjoyed this middle section more than either of the Michael Keaton Batman movies.
But then it reverts back to being predictable and awful and boring towards the end.
Overall, it was much better that Batman vs. Superman or the Justice League. Which is faint praise indeed.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 11, 2023 7:09:02 GMT -5
Do you guys think this will effect the DCU reboot at all... they're talking about the box office numbers being a flop of historic proportions (just over 100m domestically)
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 11, 2023 12:50:33 GMT -5
Do you guys think this will effect the DCU reboot at all... they're talking about the box office numbers being a flop of historic proportions (just over 100m domestically) I'd have to think that WB must have written this off already and are committed to the reboot in hopes to turn things around. It's one of those things that I just can't wrap my head around, how do you screw up making these characters work? You even have a successful blueprint with the Justice league cartoon and how Marvel constructed their films. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 11, 2023 13:38:19 GMT -5
Do you guys think this will effect the DCU reboot at all... they're talking about the box office numbers being a flop of historic proportions (just over 100m domestically) I'd have to think that WB must have written this off already and are committed to the reboot in hopes to turn things around. It's one of those things that I just can't wrap my head around, how do you screw up making these characters work? You even have a successful blueprint with the Justice league cartoon and how Marvel constructed their films. I don't really feel like they did it the way Marvel constructed their films though. Because with the Marvel films, they were done in the hopes that it might build in to something and, serendipitously, it did. Warner just said, we're doing a universe and we will start it now and here is the Justice League before you've really met any of these characters. To the extent they attempted to do it the Marvel way it was too little too late. There is palpable super-hero fatigue out there and it's showing in all the box office, including Marvel's. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 11, 2023 20:19:43 GMT -5
I agree.. I think it's time to back off the superhero movies for a while..maybe they could do a slow burn... but really I think they need to give it a rest for 5-10 years and let people miss the characters.
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Post by tarkintino on Jul 16, 2023 7:35:36 GMT -5
It's one of those things that I just can't wrap my head around, how do you screw up making these characters work? You even have a successful blueprint with the Justice league cartoon and how Marvel constructed their films. The DCEU had their structure and storyline drawn out for several films when Nolan, et al. created it. Once the series launched the solid arc was seen in Man of Steel, Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and the original intent for Justice League, which was destroyed by talentless Joss Whedon, Hamada, et al., trying to Marvel-ize a series that stood on its own. Eventually, the fan movement convinced WB to ask Snyder back to complete that first arc as it was meant to be with his Justice League, which succeeded. Outside of that, the studio had gone off the rails with their Marvel-izing through Saturday morning-like schlock such as Shazam and its sequel, chopping up the first Suicide Squad and out of a long-worked deal with Dwayne Johnson, finally produced Black Adam, which tried to move the DC films back to its proper course, but even that was hobbled by a level of silly crap indicative of influences from the other side of the street. In the grand scheme of things, WB had their strong DC film universe with a few Marvel-ized missteps, but did not learn their lesson from said missteps (biggest of all, allowing Gunn to drop Henry Cavill when WB had agreed to bring him back), and are now trying to launch a new film universe, headed by Gunn (and his partner) who is best known for silly MCU crap. I do not see that being what Zaslav envisions. |
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Post by tarkintino on Jul 16, 2023 7:40:02 GMT -5
I agree.. I think it's time to back off the superhero movies for a while..maybe they could do a slow burn... but really I think they need to give it a rest for 5-10 years and let people miss the characters. Well, that's not going to happen, if you've seen the list of films and TV series in production. One might think with all of the entertainment companies' troubles (many comic book films under-performing, projects cancelled or re-constructed with a different focus, such as the Captain Marvel non-sequel, a WGA strike, followed by the new SAG strike) that they would see the handwriting on the wall, but some studios--such as Disney/Marvel are greedy, and have agendas to push, so they will drain the blood out of a dying body until it rots. |
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