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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 21, 2022 10:33:17 GMT -5
Given this is a comic forum, I feel like I should have seen more love for A Charlie Brown Christmas. The issue with Charlie Brown Christmas, as well as The Great Pumpkin and The Grinch (real version not the later abominations) are that they're made-for-TV specials. So they don't fall within my rubric, which is just theatrical releases. If they qualified they would have been mentioned very prominently.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 21, 2022 14:15:46 GMT -5
Given this is a comic forum, I feel like I should have seen more love for A Charlie Brown Christmas. The issue with Charlie Brown Christmas, as well as The Great Pumpkin and The Grinch (real version not the later abominations) are that they're made-for-TV specials. So they don't fall within my rubric, which is just theatrical releases. If they qualified they would have been mentioned very prominently. Ah, I should have read the fine print when talking to a lawyer.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 21, 2022 14:28:28 GMT -5
The issue with Charlie Brown Christmas, as well as The Great Pumpkin and The Grinch (real version not the later abominations) are that they're made-for-TV specials. So they don't fall within my rubric, which is just theatrical releases. If they qualified they would have been mentioned very prominently. Ah, I should have read the fine print when talking to a lawyer. I'm nothing if not difficult. And pedantic.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 22, 2022 13:12:33 GMT -5
On to 1968 with only slightly over a week between. But first, let's get a big controversial thing out of the way. I don't like 2001: A Space Odyssey. Yeah, I get it. Beautiful film (and it is). Masterpiece. Deep. Meaningful. Blah, blah, blah. I don't care. It bores the crap out of me. I'll happily recognize it as a great film. I just never want to see it again. Once Upon a Time in the West - Leone had planned to retire from westerns but was lured back by big dollars from Paramount and Henry Fonda. When Eastwood wasn't interested he brought in Charles Bronson as the protagonist. He made an excellent (very long) film that was a huge success in Europe and which was cut down in length by the studio and was not very successful in the U.S. Critically it's a very influential film, cited by Scorsese, Lucas, Tarantino and Vince Gilligan as influences. I personally think it's a very good, but flawed film. The plot is byzantine and really doesn't remotely come together until near the end. Claudia Cardinale does not give a great performance. Henry Fonda is excellent and it's wonderful to see him play a villain. It may well be Bronson's best performance. For me it's a very good, sometimes great film that simply doesn't resonate with me the way that Leone's earlier pictures did. Planet of the Apes - This movie came out when I was three months old. It was still resonating heavily in the popular culture throughout my entire childhood. It was and is, quite simply, huge, spawning a franchise that is still chugging along today. Beyond that it's a really fine film. A great story. Ground-breaking make-up. An incredible screenplay by Michael Wilson and Rod Serling. Yes, Charlton Heston is his usual scene-chewing self, but Roddy McDowell, Kim Hunter and Maurice Evans are great. Still one of the best SF films ever. Night of the Living Dead - It's been quite a while since I've seen this movie, but it is just so important. George Romero revolutionized horror movies and set the template for Zombie films that is pretty much still in place. The casting of Duane Jones, a black man in 1968, as the heroic figure, whether a conscious decision by Romero or not, was a huge deal. It's a fine film and it's qualities may well be overshadowed by its historical importance. The Lion in Winter - As I mentioned in Beckett, I have a soft spot for The Plantagenet family. And I really love this film. I mean, c'mon, Peter O'Toole and Katherine Hepburn verbally jousting with each other. Add in Anthony Hopkins, Timothy Dalton and Nigel Terry and I'm all in. This is a film about ideas and really, about great actors giving life to an amazing script. It is truly a joy to watch them work. I've had some bad Christmas'...but never one like this. Bullit - Well you can't get much more different from The Lion in Winter than this. By 1968, Steve McQueen was a superstar. And Bullit may be his best superstar film. An excellent cop action film, with particularly well written dialogue, it's simply a perfect vehicle for McQueen at this point in his career. And it has what still is probably the best car chase scene in movie history. Where Eagles Dare - Excellent adaptation of the Alistair MacLean novel. The movie was definitely off-brand for Richard Burton who had not done action films before and was a very "serious" actor. Much more on-brand for Clint Eastwood. The real star of the film, honestly, is the stunt crew. Veteran stuntman Yakima Canutt was the second-unit director and directed most the action sequences. This is just an amazing, and at this late date terribly underrated, action film. The Odd Couple - Film adaptation of the Neil Simon stage play with Walter Matthau reprising his role as slob Oscar and Jack Lemmon taking up the mantle of prissy Felix. This is just a fun comedy with good performances, though its stage origins are sometimes a bit too evident. I'm a big fan of Walter Matthau so that's a huge plus. Hang em' High - Clint Eastwood took the money from his Sergio Leone films and parlayed it in to his own production company The Malpaso Company. This was, I believe, its first release. It's a nice revisionist western starring Eastwood and Inger Stevens. A big hit for Eastwood and a high quality western. Hell in the Pacific - I probably like this movie more than it deserves. But really, how can you not love Lee Marvin and Toshiro Mifune fighting it out on a small Pacific island? I would say that this is probably Mifune's best work that wasn't in a Japanese picture (though I have a huge soft spot for the mini-series Shogun). So what's my favorite film of 1968? Tough call between The Lion in Winter and Planet of the Apes. Honestly it kind of depends on what mood I'm in. Today it's probably The Lion in Winter. But tomorrow it could be Apes. As usual (maybe more than usual) there are many films I've either not seen or not seen in far too long. Including; most of the big foreign language films; Rosemary's Baby; As usual 1968 in film for those as need a look.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2022 13:35:04 GMT -5
My thoughts on 2001: A Space Odyssey are akin to Slam_Bradley I have seen Night of the Living Dead more than once. I’ve had it on VHS and DVD. Utterly engrossing in every way, and no doubt influential. Planet of the Apes is one of my favourite sci-fi films, although I have one criticism: the dead female astronaut. Might a female viewpoint have made the film richer? How would apes have reacted to a woman? Would a speaking woman have given them more or less concern than Taylor speaking - or would it have been no different? Maybe there’d have been an angle, I don’t know. I do enjoy Witchfinder General, produced by Tigon. I’m sure people here are familiar with it. Utterly bemused by why they changed the name to The Conqueror Worm for a US audience (I confess, I’ve never Googled why).
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 22, 2022 13:50:34 GMT -5
Ah, yes. 1968. A good year. Lots of extraordinary people were born... Some pretty good movies were released as well. I think I'll go with "I Have Two Mothers and Two Fathers" (which is how the title is translated at the IMDB - personally I think "I Have Two Mommies and Two Daddies" would have been better). This was quite popular in the former Yugoslavia at the time and picked up a few awards; at the time it was rather unique and even considered a bit controversial for dealing with themes like divorce and familial dysfunction front and center. It's still considered one of the better products of Croatian cinematography. Otherwise, I have to say that much as I love Leone's Dollars Trilogy, I really didn't like "Once Upon a Time in the West." I think the only thing about it I like is Morricone's score. And I like 2001 just fine.
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Post by commond on Dec 22, 2022 17:52:16 GMT -5
Y'all are crazy for not like Once Upon a Time in the West more. 2001 I can understand, but keep your lovin' brother happy? Then again, it may not be the best spaghetti western of 1968 since The Great Silence is an absolute jaw dropper of a film. One of the most shocking film experiences I can remember having. I couldn't believe what I'd just seen after it was over.
I like Night of the Dead too, and Rosemary's Baby. The Lion in Winter is a tour de force of acting. John Cassavette's Faces is good well, and Pier Paolo Pasolini's Teorama. Lindsay Anderson's If... is a must-see from this year. I imagine it would probably rank in most critics' top 10 list. Peter Bogdanovich's Targets is worth watching. Salesman is an interesting documentary. Profound Desires of the Gods is one of my preferred Shohei Imamura films from the 60s. I can't remember if I've seen Naked Childhood, but I really like Maurice Pialat's films. I don't really vibe with the Ingmar Bergman films of this era, but it impresses the hell out of me that he was able to pump out two per year.
I'll go with The Great Silence.
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Post by berkley on Dec 22, 2022 17:59:08 GMT -5
1968 is another easy one for me since 2001: A Space Odyssey is probably my favourite movie of all time. Lots of other great films out that year, includng several that Slam mentioned in his post, but I'll try to go through the list later to find my other top picks for that year.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 22, 2022 18:15:17 GMT -5
Y'all are crazy for not like Once Upon a Time in the West more. 2001 I can understand, but keep your lovin' brother happy? Then again, it may not be the best spaghetti western of 1968 since The Great Silence is an absolute jaw dropper of a film. One of the most shocking film experiences I can remember having. I couldn't believe what I'd just seen after it was over. I like Night of the Dead too, and Rosemary's Baby. The Lion in Winter is a tour de force of acting. John Cassavette's Faces is good well, and Pier Paolo Pasolini's Teorama. Lindsay Anderson's If... is a must-see from this year. I imagine it would probably rank in most critics' top 10 list. Peter Bogdanovich's Targets is worth watching. Salesman is an interesting documentary. Profound Desires of the Gods is one of my preferred Shohei Imamura films from the 60s. I can't remember if I've seen Naked Childhood, but I really like Maurice Pialat's films. I don't really vibe with the Ingmar Bergman films of this era, but it impresses the hell out of me that he was able to pump out two per year. I'll go with The Great Silence. I don't know how I missed The Great Silence. Excellent gritty film. Probably Sergio Corbucci's best film, though I still love Django. I don't think it would displace either The Lion in Winter or Planet of the Apes, but I shouldn't have missed it. Good call.
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 22, 2022 18:23:15 GMT -5
There are a lot of great movies listed so far. But I pick Pretty Poison as my favorite film of 1968.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 24, 2022 3:54:04 GMT -5
1968. My top pick is Night of the Living Dead. I just find it such a smart examination of a group of strangers trying to form an organized group amongst differing opinions, clashing personalities, and, yes, racial dynamics.
I could go a lot of ways for my #2 pick, but I'll say Once Upon a Time in the West. It's my confession time. Neither Fistful of Dollars nor The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly really resonated with me. And I've never even seen the other one. I owe them all a watch/rewatch. I love Once Upon a Time in the West. This to me is Leone's western masterpiece. Story-wise, it reminds me a lot of Johnny Guitar, which I also love. But this adds a more intricate story and prestige cinematography to the mix.
For #3, let's go with 2001: A Space Odyssey. Here's my take. I love science fiction and that's what I'm here for. Kubrick is often more interested in aesthetics than I am. The Waltz scene shows this. The wormhole scene may reflect these divergent interests, but I think it mostly reflects technology's limits. Kubrick just couldn't film what Clarke put in the novel, or what Nolan was able to film with Interstellar. I feel like the psychedelic wormhole scene was kind of just the best he could do under constraints. I like to think about the mini-genres within science fiction, and what the best ones are. And there are so many mini-genres where I think this movie is in the top 2 or 3. Best movie about deep space exploration? This or Interstellar. Computers gaining sentience? This is about as good as it gets. First encounters with aliens? Plenty of good ones like Close Encounters or Contact, but this is right up there. Even when we get into the very specific, like the idea that aliens have guided our evolution as a species. It's a whole mini-genre, with Quatermass and the Pit or Prometheus. But this is probably the best. Or films about the next stage of human's evolution, from man to superman. Obviously I like X-Men, but this is a great example of that genre too. There's just some great science fiction there.
Speaking of great science fiction, the other near tie for the #2 spot would be Planet of the Apes.
Rounding out my #5, I'll look to horror. Usually my least favorite genre, but a few good examples exist. (My #1 pick counts as horror, but there's way more going on. It's not the horror I love about it.) Rosemary's Baby is a solid pure horror flick.
Based on 3 movies mentioned above, I think this is one of the best years for science fiction, along with 1951 and 1982. But it's also the year that gives us Je T'aime Je T'aime and Barbarella.
The AV Club's great series on the History of Action Cinema claims that action movies as we know them today started with Bullit. Which birthed the modern genre along with Coogan's Bluff.
Great year for movies. So much excellent science fiction and a foundational year for action cinema.
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Post by berkley on Dec 24, 2022 22:54:51 GMT -5
I don't see any technology limits in the much-criticised last segments of the movie although obviously they're there, as they are and always will be in any movie ever made at any time. What I mean is, that's the last thing on my mind when I'm watching the film: I just get lost in the experience. Heaven help us if some genius ever decides to update Kubrick's 2001 with today's technology, itself destined to become outmoded in the probably not too distant future.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 29, 2022 11:57:08 GMT -5
Closing out the decade with 1969. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - It's honestly probably been far too long since I've seen this movie. What sticks out in my mind is just how incredibly charismatic both Paul Newman and Robert Redford are in the film. Whatever failures it may have, they just shine through in every scene. The screenplay is excellent and Burt Bacharach's score is definitely memorable. But those two stars...oh how they shine. The Wild Bunch - Pekinpah's masterpiece and one of the great revisionist westerns. I'm on record as saying I like Ride the High Country better. And I do. But I also admit that The Wild Bunch is the better film. I think this was the first American western that could truly stand up to what Leone had done with the genre. The cast is excellent. This was a huge comeback film for William Holden who had been coasting since Bridge on the River Kwai. The role was originally to go to Lee Marvin, but he got more money for Paint Your Wagon. And, honestly, I'm just a sucker for "end of the West" movies. They Shoot Horses Don't They - This drama directed by Sydney Pollack and starring Jane Fonda, Michael Sarrazin, Gig Young and Red Buttons seems to be mostly forgotten. I watched it because it was based on an excellent novel by Horace McCoy and it's pretty great. The setting of a Depression-era endurance dance contest is just rife with possibilities for drama. Gig Young was absolutely stunning as the sleazy emcee/promoter exploiting impoverished people for the amusement of the audience. How little things have changed. True Grit - I'm actually only talking about this for one reason...John Wayne's performance. Because that is the only reason to watch this movie. Because the rest of the film is shit. Wayne is great (though it's not remotely up with his performances in The Searchers or Red River). But, somehow, director Henry Hathaway managed to pull terrible performances out of such great actors as Robert Duvall and Dennis Hopper. I almost hesitate to mention Kim Darby, because she's so ludicrously awful that she almost makes Glenn Campbell look good. Honestly, the way to watch the movie is just find the best scenes with Wayne on YouTube and skip the rest. Support Your Local Sheriff - I know I've mentioned that I love James Garner. Well this movie does nothing to change that. Just a super fun comedy/western. I guess if I was to say anything bad about it it would be that the semi-remake Support Your Local Gunfighter is better because Suzanne Pleshette is always better than Joan Hackett. Sabata - I'll never claim that this is anywhere near the best spaghetti western. But I do like it quite a bit. And it's a nice starring vehicle for Lee Van Cleef, who I really like. As usual there are many films I've either not seen or not seen in far too long. Including; most of the big foreign language films; Easy Rider (it's been eons); Midnight Cowboy (I've seen it once decades ago); The Italian Job (I've seen it once quite a while ago and remember liking it, but that's about it); Take the Money and Run ( I mostly don't watch Woody Allen films); So what's my favorite film of 1969? It's The Wild Bunch. A great revisionist western that did a lot to change the way American westerns were made. As usual 1969 in film for those as need a look.
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Post by commond on Dec 29, 2022 17:17:53 GMT -5
1969 features two films from my top 10 -- Costa-Gavras' political thriller, Z, and Marcel Ophuls' documentary, The Sorry and the Pity, about the the collaboration between the Vichy government and Nazi Germany during World War II. The latter is roughly 250 minutes long, so I'd only recommend it if you have a particular interest in the subject. I was drawn to it initially because Woody Allen references it in Annie Hall. The former is one of the great films of the 60s and accessible to just about anyone.
Other films I enjoyed -- The Wild Bunch, Melville's Army of Shadows (Melville is another directer who even if you don't watch a lot of foreign films, you'd probably enjoy), My Night at Maud's, Ken Russell's Women in Love, and the delightful Kes by Ken Loach.
I'll go with Z this time.
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Post by commond on Dec 29, 2022 17:23:34 GMT -5
Before we get into the 70s, I found an old ballot for a Best of the 50s poll, which may interest some people. {Best of the 50s} 1. Tokyo Story, Yasujiro Ozu 2. Pather Panchali, Satyajit Ray 3. Los Olvidados, Luis Bunuel 4. Johnny Guitar, Nicholas Ray 5. The 400 Blows, Francois Truffaut 6. Wild Strawberries, Ingmar Bergman 7. The Searchers, John Ford 8. Mon Oncle, Jacques Tati 9. A Man Escaped, Robert Bresson 10. Kiss Me Deadly, Robert Aldrich 11. Rebel Without a Cause, Nicholas Ray 12. Rear Window, Alfred Hitchcock 13. Bakumatsu Taiyoden, Yuzo Kawashima 14. Awaara, Raj Kapoor 15. Caged, John Cromwell 16. The Night of the Hunter, Charles Laughton 17. Sweet Smell of Success, Alexander Mackendrick 18. The Incredible Shrinking Man, Jack Arnold 19. The Day the Earth Stood Still, Robert Wise 20. Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? Frank Tashlin 21. The Naked Spur, Anthony Mann 22. Early Summer, Yasujiro Ozu 23. All That Heaven Allows, Douglas Sirk 24. Singin' in the Rain, Stanley Donen 25. Forbidden Games, Rene Clement 26. Do Bigha Zameen, Bimal Roy 27. Nights of Cabiria, Federico Fellini 28. High Noon, Fred Zinnemann 29. Do Aankhen Barah Haath, V. Shantaram 30. Black Orpheus, Marcel Camus 31. Imitation of Life, Douglas Sirk 32. Sansho the Bailiff, Kenji Mizoguchi 33. Orphee, Jean Cocteau 34. Diary of a Country Priest, Robert Bresson 35. The Cranes are Flying, Mikhail Kalatozov 36. Paths of Glory, Stanley Kubrick 37. Ballad of a Soldier, Grigoriy Chukhray 38. Sunset Blvd., Billy Wilder 39. All About Eve, Joseph Mankiewicz 40. The Bridge on the River Kwai, David Lean 41. Vertigo, Alfred Hitchcock 42. Shadows, John Cassavettes 43. Mother India, Mehboob Khan 44. Seven Samurai, Akira Kurosawa 45. Surcos, Jose Antonio Nieves 46. Ashes and Diamonds, Andrzej Wajda 47. The Burmese Harp, Kon Ichikawa 48. The Big Heat, Fritz Lang 49. Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Don Siegel 50. The Man from Laramie, Anthony Mann 51. M. Hulot's Holiday, Jacques Tati 52. The Seventh Seal, Ingmar Bergman 53. Pickup on South Street, Samuel Fuller 54. La Strada, Federico Fellini 55. Les Diaboliques, Henri-Georges Clouzot 56. A Face in the Crowd, Elia Kazan 57. The Asphalt Jungle, John Huston 58. Night and the City, Jules Dassin 59. Die Brucke, Bernhard Wicki 60. Ice Cold in Alex, J. Lee Thompson 61. Roman Holiday, William Wyler 62. Ikiru, Akira Kurosawa 63. The Wages of Fear, Henri-Georges Clouzot 64. Anatomy of a Murder, Otto Preminger 65. An American in Paris, Vincente Minnelli 66. On the Waterfront, Elia Kazan 67. Rififi, Jules Dassin 68. 12 Angry Men, Sidney Lumet 69. Touchez pas au grisbi, Jacques Becker 70. 3:10 to Yuma, Delmer Daves 71. Victimas del pecado, Emilio Fernandez 72. The Furies, Anthony Mann 73. Touch of Evil, Orson Welles 74. Ugetsu Monogatari, Kenji Mizoguchi 75. Pickpocket, Robert Bresson 76. Blessings of the Land, Manuel Silos 77. The Human Condition Part I, Masaki Kobayashi 78. Sudba cheloveka, Sergey Bondarchuk 79. La grande guerra, Mario Monicelli 80. Ace in the Hole, Billy Wilder 81. The Browning Version, Anthony Asquith 82. Casque d'or, Jacques Becker 83. The Earrings of Madame De... Max Ophuls 84. Umberto D., Vittorio De Sica 85. Little Fugitive, Ray Ashley, Morris Engel and Ruth Orkin 86. The Human Condition Part II, Masaki Kobayashi 87. Throne of Blood, Akira Kurosawa 88. Winchester '73, Anthony Mann 89. A Star is Born, George Cukor 90. Night of the Demon, Jacques Tourneur 91. The Big Combo, Joseph H. Lewis 92. Yield to the Night, J. Lee Thompson 93. I Want to Live! Robert Wise 94. D.O.A, Rudolph Mate 95. Murder by Contract, Irving Lerner 96. The Revenge of Frankenstein, Terence Fisher 97. Them! Gordon M. Douglas 98. El Vampiro, Fernando Mendez 99. The Black Pit of Dr. M, Fernando Mendez 100. The Well, Leo C. Popkin, Russell Rouse
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