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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 18, 2021 10:05:32 GMT -5
#7 : Madelyne Pryor and Scott Summers(...) Interesting choice, and one that I'd considered briefly. Like you, I really liked the fact that Cyclops (the best X-man, don't care what any else one says) had moved on and was given a chance to be happy and have a normal life (in fact, in my personal head-canon, X-men basically ends with that honeymoon issue after their marriage). However, I decided against it because it was so utterly, and horribly botched (my lord, don't get me started on the child abandonment, the fact that Maddy is Jean's clone, the whole sorcery angle - my teeth are starting to grind just writing this), and because - well, how much had he moved on if he falls in love with a woman who looks suspiciously a lot (if not exactly, depending on who you ask) like the deceased love of his life? (Personally, I think a better way to show him moving on would have been if he and Lee Forester had become a couple - for a brief second, it seemed like things were going in that direction...)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2021 10:35:25 GMT -5
On the Sixth Day of Christmas, True Love gave to me the face that launched a thousand ships-Helen of Troy and Paris Paris and Helen is one of folklore's (history's, mythology's) most well known couples and perhaps one of the most toxic and problematic, but the crus of one of the most fascinating cycle of stories humanity has ever created. Eric Shanower's Age of Bronze is one of my favorite modern tellings of the Trojan War cycle and his depiction of Helen and Paris is fascinating. They are a couple not of love, or even lust, but of duty and spite. They are a couple I love to hate. Helen is seen as the the most beautiful woman in the world, and her wooing was the stuff of legends that required a sacred oath to bind her suitors together for life so they would not slay each other in the process of winning her hand. She marries Menelaeus, an Achean prince, and the rest of her suits swear to ally together to make sure she is never stolen or harm done to husband. Along comes Paris, rash, ambitious, arrogant, and spiteful or all those who he considers beneath him. He had a dream where Aphrodite promised him the most beautiful woman in the world, and sees Helen as rightfully his, and using a pretense of retribution against the Achaeans for their abduction of King Priam of Troy's sister many years before, abducts her when he has the opportunity, sparking the series of events leading to the Trojan War. Helen for her part, believes she had a vision from Aphrodite herself telling her it is her duty to go with Paris, and so meekly acquiesces when Paris comes to take her. There is no love in this couple. Most of my previous choices were about true love in one form or another, about sacrifices made to make the relationship work and such. There is none of that here. This one is representative of all the couples that are pawns in the greater game (political matches, arranged marriages, etc.) and where the woman is relegated to a possession, a pawn to be contested over and won. It is such a patriarchal view (and a toxic one), yet one ingrained in western (and other) societies and prevalent in so much of our body of storytelling. Helen and Paris are among the earliest of such relationships in western tradition, and because of the richness of the stories surrounding them, one of my favorites to read about. -M
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2021 10:36:45 GMT -5
7. Jenny & Zot
Zot! #1-36 by Scott McCloud Eclipse, 1984-1991 Beat me to it. You'll be seeing them again soonish. -M
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Post by brutalis on Dec 18, 2021 10:52:19 GMT -5
#7. Valerian and Laureline
Can a space hopping time traveling man from the future and a medieval peasant girl from the past make their love work? From 1967 to 2010 they do just that becoming a French and then international classic to eventually being brought to life in a movie.
This is a recent favorite for me in the last few years as the original series here in the USA was always sparce findings and expensive until the movie release. Quickly I fell in love with pairing of heroic Valerian and the feisty, intelligent, sassy, beautiful red head Laureline. As they travel the universe through space and time we quickly find the couple's complexity and strongly humanist and left-wing liberal political ideas mixed with humor and love.
There is a natural ease and warmth found here and it shows that love can be found and be as spectacular as the wonders of the vastness of space and time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2021 11:50:28 GMT -5
#7 Brickhouse & Third Rail (from the Blood Syndicate) as the promos for this group stated before the Milestone debut: "They're not a Team, they're a Gang" part of DC's attempt to really branch out with non-white non-Cisgender characters, I loved almost all of the Milestone Books. one of my favorites was "Blood Syndicate".. and tho there was a gay couple on that team (with one of them out and proud and the other more closeted), the character that drew me in the most was Brick House. yes, she was a version of "the Thing" - but with extreme memory loss, and occasional seizures that were brought on with her merging with a Brick wall during the Big Bang event. I was really pleased when the character started up a relationship with another member of the team Third Rail. --> so why Brickhouse & Third Rail instead of The Thing & Alicia? because - he loved her for who she is, regardless. . .and it's not a case of "oh, he's blind and accepts her anyways, because she couldn't see him at first and fell in love with him" 3rd Rail sees her for exactly who she is, from the start. And loves her BECAUSE of that, not in spite of that.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 18, 2021 12:33:59 GMT -5
#7 E-Man and NovaEdo beat me to it; but, was there ever a cuter couple than E-Man and Nova? Not in the talented hands of Joe Staton and Nicola Cuti! The archeological student and exotic dancer met the being of energy backstage, after he was pulled to Earth and the pair never loked back. E-man, or Alec Tronn, was the naive one, learning human customs, but knowing from the start there was something special about Nova. Nova is the worldly one who doesn't exactly give E-Man the full story about things (especially her night job); but, can't help loving the little ball of energy, because he is without human prejudices and hang ups. oh, his nature gets her into trouble, but it's usually pretty fun trouble, like E-man falling under the sway of a ray beam and acting like King Kong, causing Nova to do her Fay Wray bit to get through to him, before he gets blown up by Air Force planes. he ends up fine, but Nova's reaction says it all.... Later, Nova gains energy powers, like Alec's, and they end up becoming, literally, an explosive couple, as Nova finds out when she kisses E-Man. Luckily, they can reconstitute themselves, so that they can go on having fun. The relationship was never as good, when Nic Cuti wasn't involved, as the First Comics series, with Marty Pasko scripting, went more for parody, with Nova reflecting characters like Jean Grey, and the series losing a bit of that fun, innocent spark that it had at Charlton. E-Man and Nova were the Frankie and Annette of the comic world, a cute couple you enjoyed, even with the cornball silliness (which even the original comic had, at times).
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 18, 2021 17:19:07 GMT -5
On the Sixth Day of Christmas, True Love gave to me the face that launched a thousand ships-Helen of Troy and Paris I wish I had thought of this! So perfect.
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Post by majestic on Dec 18, 2021 18:47:14 GMT -5
#7. Ralph and Sue Dibny.
I have nothing new to add since they have been mentioned several times. Just a great couple... Ralph was one of the first DC heroes that was married and one of the first to give up his secret ID as the Elongated Man. Also the couple had one of the most stable marriages in comics.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 18, 2021 19:21:26 GMT -5
Today's Song: "Nothing Came Come Between Us"- Sade #7- Redlance & NightfallRichard and Wendy Pini's epic comic of a world of elves, trolls and humans is one I go back to every now and then. Throughout the years of re-reading the original 4 hardcovers I have, I have always go back and look at the role of Redlance and Nightfall in the original WaRP Graphics run. I've always liked this couple since I was a kid. Two different worlds within the same tribe and yet the two compliment each other well. In the realm of elves, there's a lifemate and a soulmate, where their inner powers of telepathic communications will find their partner. The coupling of Redlance and Nightfall fall into the former; their bond of love is physical but inner isn't complete. Nightfall, who is a fighter in the Wolfriders, is strong and vocal and expresses her love for Redlance as much as possible. Redlance, a pacifist and plant shaper, who is bonded to the earth, anchors her aggression and passion by loving her back. Throughout the original books, Nightfall searches for Redlance's soul-name so they can truly bond. It took a battle between trolls to finally recognize that the two of them are inseparable. The Pinis do an amazing job on making characters fall in love with each other that is tender and caring. It's not just outer love, it's the complete package. There would a couple relationship from Elfquest that almost made my list.... I think perhaps because there are so many I couldn't really pick one over the others... glad to see them on here though!
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Post by Crimebuster on Dec 18, 2021 19:26:30 GMT -5
I thought I was going to be the only one with this choice, but great minds think alike... 7. Nightfall and RedlanceElves don't need your foolish human gender norms! I love this couple because Nightfall is the warrior, the aggressive fighter, strong, powerful, decisive. Redlance, on the other hand, is a gardener. He uses his magic powers to help plants grow, to nurture life. He's gentle, kind, peaceful, a caregiver. The relationship between the two is perfect, and I love how they also ultimately choose each other over destiny - instead of waiting for the genetic imperative of eleven "recognition" to steer them to a partner, they share their secret selves with each other and forge their own path.
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Post by Mister Spaceman on Dec 18, 2021 20:26:05 GMT -5
#7. Airboy and Valkyrie (Golden Age) Leave it to a Golden Age comic book to serve up this perverse “meet cute”: Airboy (“the bravest and youngest flier in the world!”) is captured by Nazi flying ace Valkyrie (a “knock-out” who “fights and flies like a demon!”), who strips and tortures him for the secrets of his wondrous “bird-plane.” In short order, however, she comes to realize the error of her ways and she and Airboy slaughter a horde of her former compatriots before settling in for some canoodling in his cockpit. Their subsequent battles against Nazis and weird supernatural beings work to reiterate their irresistible attraction to each other. They kill as much as they kiss and their sublimation of sexual energy into fatal violence is so palpable they could name their first son Sigmund. Though later stories drifted away from this dynamic, Airboy and Valkyrie soared the highest when mastering the tricky aerodynamics of the heart.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 19, 2021 7:14:22 GMT -5
7. Adam Strange and AlannaThe ultimate long-distance romance! One of the fun things about pondering all of the many pairings in the comics--and all fiction, really--is how they can focus on different aspects of real world love and romance. Adam's entire heroic career is driven by his need to be with his love, Alanna. He must go to exceptional lengths every month simply to see her, light years away from his home planet, and then, face immense challenges against unknown threats virtually every time they meet. And these meetings can never last, as the zeta beam always wears off and pulls him away, even as he's spent almost the entire time outwitting the story's threat to her world, giving him eve less time for romance. It's a terrific premise on which to hang an adventure series that resets between each installment, providing a frustration factor that works in its favor to reflect what real-life lovers feel when they can't be together full-time, where the drive to make those rendezvous happen becomes the primary motivation in life.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 19, 2021 8:20:50 GMT -5
7. Adam Strange and AlannaThe ultimate long-distance romance! One of the fun things about pondering all of the many pairings in the comics--and all fiction, really--is how they can focus on different aspects of real world love and romance. Adam's entire heroic career is driven by his need to be with his love, Alanna. He must go to exceptional lengths every month simply to see her, light years away from his home planet, and then, face immense challenges against unknown threats virtually every time they meet. And these meetings can never last, as the zeta beam always wears off and pulls him away, even as he's spent almost the entire time outwitting the story's threat to her world, giving him eve less time for romance. It's a terrific premise on which to hang an adventure series that resets between each installment, providing a frustration factor that works in its favor to reflect what real-life lovers feel when they can't be together full-time, where the drive to make those rendezvous happen becomes the primary motivation in life. Man, I always loved the concept of this comic but hated the visual and personality of Adam Strange.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 19, 2021 8:32:22 GMT -5
I thought I was going to be the only one with this choice, but great minds think alike... 7. Nightfall and RedlanceElves don't need your foolish human gender norms! I love this couple because Nightfall is the warrior, the aggressive fighter, strong, powerful, decisive. Redlance, on the other hand, is a gardener. He uses his magic powers to help plants grow, to nurture life. He's gentle, kind, peaceful, a caregiver. The relationship between the two is perfect, and I love how they also ultimately choose each other over destiny - instead of waiting for the genetic imperative of eleven "recognition" to steer them to a partner, they share their secret selves with each other and forge their own path. Glad to see more Elfquest love on here. Everyone's been on fire with their picks.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 19, 2021 13:59:52 GMT -5
I didn't actually post mine Kyle Rayner and Donna Troy Y'all know I'm a big Kyle fan... I always thought the fact that someone (wether it was Ron Marz or editorial, I have no idea) wanted him to be a 'Ladies' Man' didn't make sense. They STARTED him in a committed relationship than defined the tone of the series, after all. When he ended up meeting and getting close with Donna Troy, it just made so much sense... Donna could take care of herself, and could relate to his struggles, so he wouldn't have to worry about a repeat of what happened to Alex. It was also a rare relationship where the woman was older, which lead to a unique and interesting dynamic. I felt like this worked so much better than the forced relationship with Jade later, which was clearly just for a Alan Scott connection.
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