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Post by brutalis on Dec 19, 2021 10:04:10 GMT -5
Wally West the Flash and Linda Park
The Fastest man alive NEEDS a strong, powerful, loving woman anchoring him to reality so he won't be lost in the Speed Force which powers him. All 3 Prime speedsters have their loving, devoted wives, but Wally/Linda has a resonance in todays cruel realities. We all tend to be able to lose ourselves whether in work, or emotions, or health, or turmoil and so much more and having a partner keeping us grounded, focused and tempering our race through life is a blessing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2021 10:09:56 GMT -5
On the Seventh Day of Christmas, True Love gave to me Jenny Weaver and Zachary T. Paleozogt (a.k.a. Zot!) from Scott McCloud's Zot! I mentioned yesterday you would be seeing them again soon and others have already hit all the high spots of why this couple is so great, but to add my take to it: Jenny and Zach are the prototypical high school romance. From the we're attracted to each other and sneaking kisses but "he/she's not my boyfriend" phase, to the weird love triangle with Woody while Jenny figures out what she really wants and Zach tries not to be a dick about it, to the hesitant commitment once Woody is back in the "friend zone" to the awkward conversation about whether they are ready to become sexually active and the did they/or didn't they ending of that story, it all reflects the angst, joy, wonder, drama and pathos of high school romance, and it's brilliantly portrayed by Scott McCloud (ably assisted by his wife Ivy who provided plot assists and feedback through this phase of Zot! production. The relationship is best portrayed in the black and white issues beginning with #11, but the high point is during the "Earth Stories" phase where Zot! is trapped on our Earth that comprise the last 6 issues of the series. -M
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2021 11:57:32 GMT -5
ok .. . . even tho this is a personal list? they HAVE to be on here. At first I had them in the #11 spot. . but realized that they really do mean enough to me, that they deserve to be higher, so ultimately ended up at my #6. Lois & Clark. yes, she started out as an annoying plot device who was determined to "unmask" Superman - when she wasn't being just a damsel in distress for him to save. but she started evolving fairly quickly (and really hit some controversial (and silly) topics in her own book as a reporter) and they grew together. from this: to this: so . . yeah. not much else to say.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 19, 2021 12:20:46 GMT -5
6. Batman and NocturnaAs written by Doug Moench Doug Moench put his all into his first run on Batman and 'Tec, not just writing compelling new villains and developing the blank slate he'd been given that was Jason Todd, but also in creating meaningful and deep personalities for the residents of Gotham City, as well as deep and realistic-seeming relationships between them. Whether you liked it or not, it was almost certainly the most attention to characterization ever given to the Bat titles. And that necessarily translated to Moench's depiction of Batman himself. He wasn't just an upholder of the law, or man driven by a vow of vengeance, nor a human computer who could calculate 62 ways to take you down. He was a scarred, injured orphan with a flare for the dramatic and romantic. He pretended by day but came alive at night, theatrically donning a bat costume while seeking vengeance. Moench effectively saw it as emo escapism, and so he created a character to compliment that; a love interest more attuned to who Bruce truly was than a nosey reporter or a thief with a heart of gold. Nocturna was the night; she was the dark side of Bruce with all its intrigue, romance, danger, and implied perversion. There was as little hope in their making it as a couple as there should have been in Bruce surviving more than six months of vigilante crime-fighting, but that was the hopeless fantasy of the whole franchise, wasn't it? That was the charm. And so it cast a spell on me and made me care. Detective Comics #556 remains my favorite romance story of all time, in which these two finally find comfort in one another's arms as the red skies of Crisis on Infinite Earths threaten to end everything. They may not be my favorite couple of all, but their romantic tension compelled me like no one else. It's worth mentioning that Moench definitely took some wrong turns with Nocturna, tweaking her a few times to try to make her more acceptable to readers, and the worst of these was when she gained a superhero costume and tried crimefighting alongside Batman. Ugh. Still, the high points were brilliant and enchanting.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 19, 2021 14:11:44 GMT -5
Hawkeye and Mockingbird I Really loved their relationship during the West Coast Avengers era.. it was one of those you where you new they were perfect together, but almost too much so, so they had a stormy relationship. The story where Mockingbird lets the Phantom Rider die and Hawkeye angsts over what to do about it is one of my favorites about what it means to be an Avenger (which has, of course, been completely invalidated in recent times, but that's OK... Wolverine has never been in MY Avengers ) I mean, Hawkeye literally went to hell for her, that's something! I didn't love bringing her back, but it did at least give us some more great character moments between these two.
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Post by Mister Spaceman on Dec 19, 2021 14:29:32 GMT -5
#6. Big Barda and Scott FreeWhen he made the leap to DC in 1970, Jack Kirby, untethered by the tropes of Marvel’s superhero brand, plunged fully into a cosmic unconscious with his Fourth World saga. Amidst the mythopoetic backdrop of New Genesis and Apokolips, perhaps Kirby’s most revolutionary move was to fashion a super-powered couple that negated the medium’s regressive romance conventions. In Big Barda and Scott Free Kirby created embodiments of Jung’s anima and animus, a coming together of the feminine and masculine within and between each of them. Ever the visionary, Kirby revealed to us in Barda and Scott’s romance a power greater than the sum of its parts and an affirmation of the enduring potency of love.
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Post by Crimebuster on Dec 19, 2021 14:54:55 GMT -5
6. David and Eileen1972, and Charlton is once again doing whatever the heck it feels like doing. In this case, pushing boundaries in the pages of Just Married with a new ongoing serialized soap opera about the interfaith romance between David and Eileen. David is Jewish. Eileen is Irish Catholic. Both of their families want them to marry within their own faith, and disapprove of their relationship. Yet David and Eileen decide to go against their families and tradition - and societal mores at the time - and get married anyway. What follows is a relatively realistic look at the struggles of regular newlyweds - things like financial troubles, and miscommunications - mixed with the constant pressures form their families and faiths. I love these soap operas, and this one is particularly interesting, pushing boundaries. It ran for 9 issues, from issues #93-101. And it also gave us one of the sexiest romance covers around - #99, where the newlyweds are shown in bed sharing a single pair of pajamas. Great stuff from Charlton!
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 19, 2021 17:19:41 GMT -5
Is "Irish" a religion? Well, I do keep a copy of Finnegans Wake at my bedside and read passages from it every day...
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 19, 2021 17:21:16 GMT -5
6. David and Eileen1972, and Charlton is once again doing whatever the heck it feels like doing. In this case, pushing boundaries in the pages of Just Married with a new ongoing serialized soap opera about the interfaith romance between David and Eileen. David is Jewish. Eileen is Irish Catholic. Both of their families want them to marry within their own faith, and disapprove of their relationship. Yet David and Eileen decide to go against their families and tradition - and societal mores at the time - and get married anyway. What follows is a relatively realistic look at the struggles of regular newlyweds - things like financial troubles, and miscommunications - mixed with the constant pressures form their families and faiths. I love these soap operas, and this one is particularly interesting, pushing boundaries. It ran for 9 issues, from issues #93-101. And it also gave us one of the sexiest romance covers around - #99, where the newlyweds are shown in bed sharing a single pair of pajamas. Great stuff from Charlton! I just realized that this years subject is right in your wheelhouse. In the 70's there was a TV show called Bridget loves Bernie about a Catholic and Jewish person marrying.
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Post by Farrar on Dec 19, 2021 18:54:47 GMT -5
...I just realized that this years subject is right in your wheelhouse. In the 70's there was a TV show called Bridget loves Bernie about a Catholic and Jewish person marrying. Yep--and as I've noted in the past, the male character even looks like David Birney (and the woman is a long-haired blonde like Meredith Baxter) classiccomics.org/post/311800/threadJust read the serial a couple of years ago--inspired choice Crimebuster.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 19, 2021 21:46:38 GMT -5
#6 Ben & AliciaIn the words of Joe Jackson, "Is she really going out with him?" We've all seen a romantic couple and thought, how did that happen? Two unlikely people in a deeply romantic relationship that stands in defiance of the stereotype. Billy Joel & Christie Brinkley (money & fame do wonders there, though), Ric Ocasek & Paulina Poriskova, Kevin Smith & Jennifer Schwalbach, wrestling announcer/promoter/tv host Joe Pedicino & broadcast partner Bonnie Blackstone (they hosted an 8 hour block of pro wrestling programming, from various promotions, on Atlanta tv, from the mid-late 80s through the mid 90s)..... Beauty & the Beast. Speaking as a short guy, whose weight has gone up and down over the years, it is heartening to see a couple where it is obvious that there is more than physical attractiveness (at least, according to society at large) at work, that they see the true person beyond their physical appearance. In comics, that is Ben and Alicia. Stan & Jack gave the Puppet Master a stepdaughter to use to manipulate the FF, but she rebelled. She is blind, due to an accident involving his radioactive clay, but she doesn't let her blindness hold her back. Ben is tormented by his monstrous appearance, forever changed by the cosmic ray belt he passed through. He has seen people draw away in fear, if not run and scream in terror. His personality was mercurial before, but the tragedy of his transformation hardened him more than his skin. And then he met Alicia. She can't see his form, but she can hear his words and sense his heart, and she fell for him in a big way. However, Alicia is a sculptress and she is very adept and sensing contours via touch. She has done statues of Ben, touched his face and body. She knows what his outward appearance looks like. It doesn't matter, because she knows his soul even better. Ben has maintained his humanity, thanks to his family, the Fantastic Four and Alicia. He is Franklin's Unca Benjy, who he adores without reservation. He is Torch's best friend, though neither would ever say it out loud, in front of others. To the world, he is Ben Grimm, the Thing, either a scary monster who fights other monsters, or the blue-eyed idol of millions. To Alicia, he is Ben. Writers have put them through the wringer and have written misguided soap operatic pieces separating them, for dubious and plain BS reasons, but love finds a way. And, finally.....FINALLY....they got their moment of wedded bliss. Probably won't last, unless they put it in the movies; but, embrace it while you can. Mazel tov! Oh, and a belated Happy Hanukkah!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2021 22:39:50 GMT -5
upper right panel. . . OH MY GAWD. . what's happened to her Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace? ??
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 20, 2021 10:35:55 GMT -5
As I struggle to catch up...and it ain't getting better with my schedule this week... 6. Ralph and Sue DibnyI don't make many bones about the fact that Silver Age DC books don't work for me any more. One of the few exceptions are the Elongated Man back-ups. Because they're just fun and they're short enough I don't expect a lot from them. And they have Ralph and Sue. They're just a fun couple who had all the potential in the world as time went on. I always desperately wanted a good writer to put Ralph and Sue in to a book that would have essentially been The Thin Man with superheroes. We never quite got that. But we got a fun couple nonetheless.
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 21, 2021 0:45:23 GMT -5
6. Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl A fine example of a "You and Me Against the World" couple, like Ben Grimm and Alicia Masters, heavy on the melodrama at times, but absent the straying and break-ups that couples like this almost always have to endure. (Now, remember, for me, the Legion saga essentially ended with the Crisis, and these two young lovers may have gone through many more changes since, so please take that into account.) As a young kid new to comics, the LSH scratched an itch I hadn't known existed. They were kids, a few years older than I was, but they behaved like adults most of the time. They accepted responsibility, acted heroically, were treated by adults like equals, and fell in love. Early in the Legion saga, several members had paired off, and they always seemed to be the most adult among these young adults. I'm thinking here of Ultra Boy and Phantom Girl (the glamour couple); Cosmic Boy and Night Girl (the mature couple -- remember Night Girl's bouffant?); and Light Lass and Timber Wolf (the good-girls-dig-bad-boys romance*). But the greatest of LSH romances was that between Saturn Girl and Lightning Lad, who had to endure death, dismemberment, and cruelest of all, the fulfillment of the curse of the Great Darkness Saga, which though it dates back to 1982, I won't reveal in case there is still anyone out there who is unaware of one of the great final pages in a comic book. To a kid, LL and SG were superb role models: committed, respectful, and clearly willing to do anything for each other. ( Adventure 312 leaps to mind.It would not be the last time that she would lay her life on the line for a comrade.)By that time, Garth had sacrificed his life to save Imra's. Saturn Girl was so loyal to the Legion that she at first turned down LL's proposal because they'd have to leave the Legion if they got married. Lightning Lad was a Legion lifer, too, but they did marry, and eventually, after they were called into emergency duty some time after and saved the Legion's space-bacon, the Legion changed the rule barring married members and the two rejoin eagerly. Yet another DC Silver Age romance that transcended soap opera. Saturn Girl was presented unquestioningly as an excellent leader, twice serving as its official leader, but always, as a founding member and a steady presence, was one of its unofficial leaders. LL also served a term, and like his wife, was always seen as the Legionnaire who'd done more for the Legion than anyone. He earned his position as an eminence grise without resentment from anyone else. And you always got the feeling that neither Mr. nor Mrs. Legion would have been the hero either one was without the love and support of the other.
*As best described here by the Shangri-Las in "Leader of the Pack."
"My folks were always putting him down (down, down) They said he came from the wrong side of town (whatcha mean when ya say that he came from the wrong side of town?) They told me he was bad But I knew he was sad That's why I fell for (the leader of the pack)"
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 21, 2021 6:31:12 GMT -5
Where that couple is concerned, love is a protean thing!
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