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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 29, 2022 8:24:34 GMT -5
HOURMAN #5 Aug 1999 “The Death of Hourman” by Tom Peyer, Rags Morales and David Meikis With an “Hourman” comic finally being published more than 50 years after the original concept debuted, it would seem only fitting to pay some respects to the original, who never got a shot at headlining his own title, right? Well, scripter Tom Peyer evidently agreed, and--after four issues establishing the new title’s premise of the naïve android Hourman from the 853rd Century learning to be a human and a hero from one-time JLA mascot Snapper Carr—we got this issue, which not only fills in some missing information on the life of Rex Tyler, but establishes some ties to those early Hourman stories, ties which shall be returned to during this titles run…as we shall see! SUMMARY: As the issue opens, Snapper Carr has encouraged the new android Hourman to take a dose of actual Miraclo, as a way of connecting with Rex Tyler, the superhero on whose DNA the new Hourman was fashioned. Things go wrong when chemical and artificial combine, and the android goes into a drug-fueled frenzy, then blacks out… …and begins to relive the life of the original Hourman, as the reader returns to the 40’s in pages drawn in a cruder, faux-Golden Age style that attempts to evoke the work of Bernard Baily: Thanks to Miraclo, Rex brushes off the impact of the ambulance and runs off on a Miraclo-manic high, with the android following him in a hallucinogenic fantasy. As Rex runs off ignoring his “descendent”, a 40’s-styled Snapper Carr arrives on the scene to guide and advise his android pal, explaining that the android’s time powers are allowing him to experience the original Hourman’s history through telemetry with the Miraclo circulating in his system. The android experiences Rex’s thrill at chasing down and stopping the speeding ambulance: After a scene back in the real world showing the supporting cast fleeing the home of Rex Tyler’s widow, Wendi (where this is taking place), we return to the fantasy, where the android witnesses Hourman’s memorable adventure facing Dr. Togg and his mutated Gombezi from ADVENTURE COMICS #57! Who’d have ever thought we’d see those things again? The fantasy goes further back, to a snapshot of Rex as a little boy: “He group up poor! Rough edges…no social validation whatsoever! His whol life, he had to accomplish miracles just to feel adequate!” We get another look at Rex’s childhood, and, for the first time, his parents: As the android is experiencing things from a perspective from within the original Hourman, the art begins to depict Hourman in a more contemporary style, as scenes of Rex’s life alternate with his fight against Dr. Togg and the Gombezi. Rex studies at Cornell University on scholarship, but is looked down upon by his classmates, and, eventually, with his more well-heeled co-workers at Bannermain Chemical, where he is too humiliated to share his discovery of Miraclo: We flash forward to Rex joining the JSA, where he argues with Dr. Mid-Nite that, no, Miraclo is not temporarily altering his personality, but that it is changing it forever, and for the better! The scene melds into Rex’s courtship of movie star Wendi Harris, then the birth of his son, Rick, then his conflict with his grown son when Rick becomes Hourman II. Finally, the mind-trip shows us what really happened before Dr. Togg’s lab was destroyed at the conclusion of the original story, and we learn that Dr. Togg didn’t die, but was himself transformed into a gombezi: When the android awakens from his hour-long hallucination, he discovers that he has destroyed the late Rex Tyler’s house, having acted out the entire fantasy! COMMENTARY: While the flashback does take some liberties with the original telling, neglecting the Minute Men of America among other things, the ending is not incompatible with the original, which ended with Hourman and the boys observing the destruction of Togg’s lab from a distance. I can buy that Hourman might spare the boys the body horror of Togg’s transformation into a gombezi, set the lab to explode and brush the whole thing away as resolved. Peyer does make a more convincing depiction of some kind of addiction to Miraclo than writers before him managed, but it’s hard to disagree with Rex’s self-assessment that Miraclo changed his personality for the better (despite some lapses in good judgment that were depicted in this version of the Dr. Togg story). And it’s consistent with the transformation from genuine cowardice to unswaying self-confidence that occurred over the course of the ADVENTURE COMICS run. Honestly, I can’t quite square Rex’s feelings of humiliation with his hiding the discovery of Miraclo from his employers, but we could chalk that up to rationalization on Rex’s part; would you have given up a one-hour superhero pill to an abusive employer who wasn’t likely to even credit you for the discovery, much less share the vast fortunes it would probably generate for the company? While it's surprising to see Dr. Togg and the gombezi return to the comics pages, of all the original Hourman opponents, they were clearly the most memorable! And while Rags doesn't quite nail Bernard Baily, he's trying, with details like a bystander's hat flying off his head, one of Baily's favorite comical indicators of surprise. I only wish he had worked in a "Baily Dive" panel, but that was something Bernard took to doing later in the run than the Dr. Togg story...
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Post by chadwilliam on Jul 29, 2022 15:27:37 GMT -5
The hourglass, which has mysteriously reformed, is not what it seems, Rex’s narration informs us. It’s filled not with sand, but with “energized tachyons, the very essence of time itself.” But he would only learn that much later, after many years of associating with the Justice Society of America, all the way to the end, the Zero Hour… And if we want to do some retconning explanations for curious things we've seen so far--and you know I'm up for that!--explaining the hourglass pendant as a special gift from the future provides a way to justify things like the hourglass being able to mysteriously interact with electronics, as we saw in one of the Golden Age adventures, or even why it can keep time accurately even in a rough-and-tumble Hourman adventure! It might even be the hourglass's effect that kept Miraclo's effect on such an improbably exact schedule! I thought Batman broke his hourglass to get them out of a deathtrap during one of their JLA/JSA team-ups. I guess Batman would have been nice enough to replace it, but would he have known to fill it with "energized tachyons"? Somehow, I think not. Might explain this: "YOU IDIOT!!!"
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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 29, 2022 17:37:20 GMT -5
Comic Book Explainer time! Batman did indeed break the hourglass, but it also got shattered in the battle against Stalker, and immediately re-integrated itself. It's a super-scientific time-control device from the 853rd century, so I'll buy that it can reverse time and reassemble its constituent components, including the energized tachyons.
And thanks for the fake B&B cover! Hourman is #1 on my roster of regrettable absences from BRAVE & BOLD!
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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 30, 2022 12:47:06 GMT -5
YOUNG JUSTICE 16-20, Jan-May 2000 by Peter David and Todd Nauk Who’s up for some time travel? I’m interrupting the review of Rex Tyler in HOURMAN--which picks back up with the issue dated December, 1999--for a very quick look at an arc in YOUNG JUSTICE, which had cover dates throughout the first half of 2000. Then we’ll head back to the HOURMAN series where we’re in for some serious original Hourman action! So why are we looking at YOUNG JUSTICE? Thanks to an early post in this thread from wildfire2099 , I was reminded of a very relevant super-team that appeared there… “Old Justice” is a team of aged sidekicks or young heroes from the 40’s, including Senator Neptune Perkins (from the Young All-Stars), Dan the Dyna-Mite, now wielding both his own ring and the one he shared with his adult partner TNT in the 1940’s, Merry the Gimmick Girl, who usurped the Star Spangled Kid’s feature at the end of the Golden Age, The Cyclones, who assisted the original Red Tornado when they were little kids, Doiby Dickles, who was the original Green Lantern’s cabby confidante, and none other than Thorndyke Thompkins, now going by the moniker of “Second Sweep”, former Minute Man of America, and officially-billed co-star of the final series of Hourman stories in ADVENTURE COMICS. I won’t attempt to synopsize this storyline, but it kicks off with a hearing before Congress, Dan catches us up on what became of these Golden Age sidekicks after their comics run ended. Of interest to us are Thorndyke and the Minute Men of America: We could probably match up some of the Minute Men depicted here to the few named members from the original run, but more likely artist Todd Nauk was just depicting generic 40’s kids. He does grant them uniforms of a sort, which they didn’t have in the published stories: hourglass emblems patched onto their clothing. But it’s Thorndyke who, as always, gets the attention here, and he’s revealed to have attempted to continue a career as a costumed hero, which led to “disaster and an extended jail sentence.” Well, he was indeed operating as a masked hero during those final few adventures with Hourman, and was depicted as having considerable physical capabilities, whether he was augmented with Miraclo or not. YOUNG JUSTICE: SINS OF YOUTH #1-2, May 2000 In this miniseries, Old Justice does direct battle with the teen heroes of Young Justice. Thorndyke—I mean, “Second Sweep ”--takes on Impulse, noting that even his former partner Hourman couldn’t “beat any sense” into him. That doesn’t exactly jibe with the relationship that was depicted between the two, but presumably Thorndyke went through a “difficult phase” after the feature was discontinued, leading to a break-up and a solo career for Thorny, something that managed to land him in jail. According to this tale, Thorndyke has access to and is using Miraclo himself: Later, the teams reconcile and team up against the combined forces of the JLA and JSA, who are turned into tots at the end of the first issue, while the YJ kids are aged to adulthood. A series of specials followed the YJ heroes as they got a brief experience as adults, before the concluding second issue. Thorndyke doesn’t do much in that issue, as far as I can tell, but frankly, I don’t tolerate Nauk’s cartoony pseudo-manga very well, and I may have missed a few things in the painful scan through the cramped, hectic pages. We’ll never know the details behind Thorndyke’s solo attempt at being a hero, or the reasons behind his stint in the Big House. How he has access to Miraclo will also remain a mystery, but I can speculate! I think we can rule out Hourman giving a supply of the drug to his partner—we saw Hourman’s commitment to keeping it for his exclusive use. I wouldn’t rule out the possibility that Thorny had been nicking the pills over his years with Hourman. After all, Rex was known to have kept them in a huge candy bowl in the 60’s, would he have noticed a few going missing now and then? But it would be difficult to accumulate enough to last for decades… So how about this: when Rex did the switch from pills to his Miraclo ray, he might have had a massive supply of it in pill form stocked up. He’d have to dispose of that, and we know how Rex disposes of dangerous chemicals: he dumps them discreetly out in the swamp or someplace! If it was a big enough supply, he might well call on his partner Thorndyke to help with the dumping, or even to execute the disposal on his own. Would Thorndyke have resisted the temptation to keep, or to go back and recover the cache of super-power pills? I think it’s quite likely he relocated the pills to a safe spot only he knew about. Maybe Rex found out, confronted Thorny, and tried to “beat some sense” into him, to no avail. Then, after the partnership was dissolved over Thorny’s defiance, Thorny used the pills to be a real super-hero on his own? We can speculate also that he messed up quite severely in his attempts, leading to his imprisonment. On his release as a much older man, Thorndyke might have returned to his secreted stash of Miraclo, having used very little of it since his crime-fighting days were so few, and his access to the pills prevented by the prison bars. The Miraclo may well have degraded over the decades, providing a shorter burst of power—from this Young Justice story, we don’t get any details on whether the pills last a full hour or not, only that the Miraclo-granted powers do still expire after some time. Artist Todd Nauk seems not to have had much reference material on Thorndyke. He did have a checked hat in some of his early appearances, and Nauk obviously has the trademark turtleneck pulled up over the face, but that face doesn't bear any resemblance to the weirdo that Bernard Baily was drawing last time we saw Thorny. I guess faithfulness to the original design wasn't too important--I can't recall any appearances of Thorndyke that have ever been officially reprinted to this date...other than collections of these very issues of YOUNG JUSTICE!
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Post by chaykinstevens on Jul 30, 2022 13:26:23 GMT -5
Artist Todd Nauk seems not to have had much reference material on Thorndyke. He did have a checked hat in some of his early appearances, and Nauk obviously has the trademark turtleneck pulled up over the face, but that face doesn't bear any resemblance to the weirdo that Bernard Baily was drawing last time we saw Thorny. I guess faithfulness to the original design wasn't too important--I can't recall any appearances of Thorndyke that have ever been officially reprinted to this date...other than collections of these very issues of YOUNG JUSTICE! GCD says a few Hourman stories with Thorndyke have been reprinted. All Star Comics Archives #0 reprinted the story from All-Star Comics #2, 100-Page Super-Spectacular #DC-18 reprinted the story from Adventure Comics #57, and there was a Millennium Edition reprint of Adventure Comics 61.
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Post by MWGallaher on Jul 30, 2022 14:15:09 GMT -5
Artist Todd Nauk seems not to have had much reference material on Thorndyke. He did have a checked hat in some of his early appearances, and Nauk obviously has the trademark turtleneck pulled up over the face, but that face doesn't bear any resemblance to the weirdo that Bernard Baily was drawing last time we saw Thorny. I guess faithfulness to the original design wasn't too important--I can't recall any appearances of Thorndyke that have ever been officially reprinted to this date...other than collections of these very issues of YOUNG JUSTICE! GCD says a few Hourman stories with Thorndyke have been reprinted. All Star Comics Archives #0 reprinted the story from All-Star Comics #2, 100-Page Super-Spectacular #DC-18 reprinted the story from Adventure Comics #57, and there was a Millennium Edition reprint of Adventure Comics 61. Thanks for the check! I remembered the reprints from JSA ALL-STARS ARCHIVES, which were pre-Thorndyke, but forgot the zero volume. I was getting a hunch there was something in a SUPER-SPEC, because I think I knew what Thorndyke looked like from somewhere even when I was a teen. Turns out it was this reprint, the memorable Dr. Togg and the Gombezi! I didn't remember all of the Millennium Editions...funny they'd include Starman's debut issue but not Hourman's!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 31, 2022 15:13:08 GMT -5
Clearly we need someone to write those 'lost' Thorndyke adventures!
I kinda like the Young Justice art, not sure I'd call have called it Manga-ish, reminds me more Humberto Ramos, but I can see it.. I suppose he is Manga-influcenced.
I don't think he needed to match is face.. he's an old man now.. people don't look the same after 50-60 years.. and in comics, sometimes people don't look the same from issue to issue.. that's why that HAVE A trademark look, after all.
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Post by MWGallaher on Aug 1, 2022 12:19:13 GMT -5
Clearly we need someone to write those 'lost' Thorndyke adventures! I kinda like the Young Justice art, not sure I'd call have called it Manga-ish, reminds me more Humberto Ramos, but I can see it.. I suppose he is Manga-influenced. I don't think he needed to match is face.. he's an old man now.. people don't look the same after 50-60 years.. and in comics, sometimes people don't look the same from issue to issue.. that's why that HAVE A trademark look, after all. I don't really think it was important to retain faithfulness to how Baily drew Thorndyke, but he did have a particularly odd face and hairstyle, and I thought it was worth noting that Nauk didn't try to evoke that. (And I just now noticed that Nauk violated the one thing about Thorndyke that never changed in the Golden Age: his mouth never emerged from inside that turtleneck!) As for the art, I try not to disparage something just because it's not in my favored style, and Nauk's work doesn't clash with the tone of YOUNG JUSTICE...or perhaps Nauk's style helped to set the tone, in whatever case, it achieved a degree of consistency. No, it's not a slavish manga imitation, but I think it is certainly drawing from the well of manga's ascendency in North America at the time. I find genuine Japanese manga more tolerable than this Americanized hybrid, which I find difficult to process and unpleasant to look at, but my tastes, flexible though they are, were forged in the 70's, when work like this would have most likely been poorly received, to put it mildly.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 1, 2022 22:01:38 GMT -5
I definitely agree that I like the more realistic manga artists better than the (perhaps stereotypical) tropes of big eyes and big muscles and spiky hair, but I can live with it if it's well done. It can definitely be taken too far (Ramos is horrible when he's on a deadline crunch) I totally agree they shouldn't have uncovered his mouth, but I can respect keeping him in a hat to not have to try to draw that hair. The think that actually jumps out at me as I look at it again is his eyes.. those are way too striking to not have ever mentioned before. (even taking into considering changes in the range of color possibilities). As far as the hair, he could also just be bald
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Post by commond on Aug 2, 2022 6:10:57 GMT -5
I think there's a tendency these days to label any cartoony style as manga-influenced even if it's unclear whether the artist has even read manga. According to Nauck, the deepest influences on his work were Arthur Adams, Rick Leonardi, Alan Davis, and Walter Simonson.
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Post by MWGallaher on Aug 2, 2022 6:40:59 GMT -5
I think there's a tendency these days to label any cartoony style as manga-influenced even if it's unclear whether the artist has even read manga. According to Nauck, the deepest influences on his work were Arthur Adams, Rick Leonardi, Alan Davis, and Walter Simonson. Sure, I can see those influences in Nauck's work; my manga reference was in the zeitgeist of the times, as the rise of manga was followed by a much more cartoony approach in a genre that had been played mostly straight. Marvel, especially, seemed to be featuring a lot more "balloony" looking character work and exaggerated facial expressions, different approaches to drawing hair and face shapes, page designs featuring cluttered, hectic and distorted overlapping figures, all of which I associate with the manga influence, even if it arrived filtered through an increasingly cartoony chain of influential western artists. I think that if manga had not been becoming extremely popular, this style of art wouldn't have arisen or been considered commercial enough for a mainstream superhero comic in the 90's.
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Post by commond on Aug 2, 2022 8:02:56 GMT -5
It's possible, but I also think there's an element of Nauck wanting it to look like an all-ages title reflecting the youth element.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Aug 8, 2022 11:32:18 GMT -5
Except when he decided a superhero was an idiot (Red Bee, David Knight, the Atom … okay Johnny Thunder was canonically an idiot but I don't feel like he grasped him, either) (he gave his personality to Al Pratt, in my opinion).
Oh I hear ya--he was hard on the Red Bee, but every field, in the real world, has people that work in it that really weren't suited for it, and I think it was reasonable and worthwhile to propose that some of those Golden Age superheroes would have fallen into that category. A guy whose gimmick was a pair of "trained bees" in his belt buckle is a good candidate for that role. And it's also worthwhile exploring a superhero who succumbed to the dangers of the role shortly after starting, and that's something you can't do with a character designed to be an ongoing feature, so I've got no problem with David Knight playing that part (and he did get a belated period of success, thanks to some time travel). Being a character's champion is not necessarily about making that a paragon, in my opinion--it's about finding something that makes the character resonate, that takes the premise and wrings out engaging results. I think Robinson achieved that with Red Bee, Starman II, and The Atom.
I can see your point, but I felt that Robinson tended to rub my face in it, and made characters incompetent in ways that simply didn't match their original treatment. Just a matter of taste, I suppose.
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Post by MWGallaher on Aug 14, 2022 20:11:00 GMT -5
As the new HOURMAN series continued, more and more bits of information relevant to Rex Tyler cropped up, so before we move on to the really important stuff, here's a quick review of some of the most notable things that appeared: HOURMAN #8, Nov 1999 “A Week with No Hourman” by Peyer, Morales, and Andrew Hennessy Hourman appears only in a framed photo with his son and successor, Rick Tyler, as Rex’s widow Wendi visits their son, hospitalized with leukemia supposedly triggered by Rick’s exposure to Miraclo: HOURMAN #9, Dec 1999 “Where Does the Time Go?” by Peyer, Morales, and Dave Meikis In the splash, we see a rare scene of Rex in the father role, as Wendi orders the reconstruction of the home that the android Hourman accidentally demolished under the effects of Miraclo: Wendi reminisces to old newsreel footage of her husband: The new Hourman appears and offers his apology, then uses his time powers to restore Rex and Wendi’s home as it was in 1973, for one hour, and the two bond. The android later attempts to heal the ailing Rick Tyler, only to discover that his illness is neither leukemia nor Miraclo-induced, and after fighting a Miraclo-crazed Rick, transports him to the “Timepoint”, an unending moment of suspended time where Rick can live without aging, but from which there is no apparent escape. HOURMAN #10, Jan 2000 In “Bride of the Gombezi” by Peyer, Morales, and Mark Propst, we see the first revival of a villain from the original run, with Dr. Togg released from prison. As revealed in a previous issue, Togg was not actually killed as implied in the original story, but was transformed into a “Gombezi”, Togg’s term for the winged hybrid creatures he created as slaves to enact crimes. By the end of the story, after fighting Togg and a new brood of Gombezis the new Hourman has restored Togg to his human form, and set him up with a lab in Hourman’s timeship, tasked with finding a cure for Rick Tyler. HOURMAN #17, August 2000 “One Hundred Years of Solitude” by Tom Peyer, writer, Jason Orfalas, penciler, and Walden Wong, inker. This installment is interesting in that it echoes the very first ADVENTURE COMICS tale of Rex Tyler, with the android Hourman using a similar newspaper notice to advertise his superheroic services to the “oppressed”: Peyer was leveraging significantly on the original Hourman material, while creating a refreshingly unique and entertaining Hourman for the 21st century. Hourman's stories had been only sparsely reprinted, and his history was not familiar territory for comic book fans, so referencing things like Dr. Togg and Rex's newspaper message to "the oppressed" wasn't exactly "fan service", since I don't that many HOURMAN readers of the time were aware of the originals. This was a terrific series, but not one fated for a long run. As it wrapped up, it returned with an even bigger focus on the subject of this review thread, the original Hourman, Rex Tyler. Coming up next!
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Post by MWGallaher on Aug 15, 2022 7:54:45 GMT -5
HOURMAN #23, February 2001: “The Unbelievable Truth” by Peyer, Morales, and Meikis Hourman and his friends are having interesting experiences traveling through time, but what’s interesting to us is the closing scene, which shifts to the 853rd century to find…Rex Tyler?! Yes, the original Hourman, Rex Tyler “a nerdy David Spade-type who took strength-enhancing Miraclo pills that turned him into a raging Chris Farley.” This, recall, is the century from which the then-current android Hourman originated, and now we find that somehow, the genuine Rex Tyler, supposedly dead, is living in the far future, in charge of Tyler Chemorobotics, the corporate descendent of Bannermain Laboratories, designing and building robots. As he sketches a design for a “Promethium-Gener??? Hourman”, an alarm indicates an intruder, and he reaches for his vial of Miraclo, then leaps into action. The intruder is the Batman of the 853rd century, who, after a brief battle, explains that he has spiked Hourman’s Miraclo in order to paralyze Rex’s “psychological defenses against challenging new ideas.” Batman and his comrades in Justice Legion-A have been monitoring the new Hourman’s adventures in the past with disapproval. We learn that Rex has, at some point, reprogrammed the android with “some old-fashioned super-hero”, but when presented with the evidence, Rex concludes, in the final panel, that he is “going to have to junk him!” It's an intriguing tease that finally ties the android much more directly to the original. We’ve seen Hourman’s entire career, right up to his final moments. How could Rex possibly be alive in the distant future, building and reprogramming robots with advanced technology, still taking Miraclo and associating with the superheroes of the time? When we first see him, he is working in front of a framed portrait of himself, Wendi, and Rick in his son’s boyhood days, so Rex is presumably fully aware of his past, but carrying on as if this is his normal life. Does he know he will eventually return and rejoin his family to die at his appointed time? It would seem cruel to leave them behind for an extended period, even if he can return to the moment when he left, since he would age during his absence—no one wants their spouse to age significantly in a single instant, right? I will assume that future biotechnology can retard aging, and that won’t be a problem, and that Rex finds that whatever he is up to is either impossible to alter or is important enough to sacrifice time away from his chronological “real” life. It's nifty to see Rex retaining his "candy jar" full of Miraclo, as seen way back in his SHOWCASE team-ups with Dr. Fate, and I get a kick out of the stamped hourglass symbol on the Miraclo. That's a detail that I haven't mentioned before, but one that had been shown several times during this period of publishing. Very professional of Rex not to develop a pill that has appropriate markings per industry practice and federal requirements! And that leads us to HOURMAN #24, which will explain the mystery of future Rex. Will it be the original Hourman's big finish, closing the loop on his life story, or are there even more Hourman adventures to come?
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