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Post by Randle-El on Jan 19, 2022 14:39:02 GMT -5
I've recently started a project to watch a bunch of older films that I missed while growing up. I consider myself fairly well-versed in the movie culture from my youth (80s and 90s), but I will admit to having some fairly significant gaps in my film diet. Most of these are movies that were successful and had a big impact on pop culture, but for one reason or another I just never got around to watching.
I'm planning to document my project here by jotting down mini-reviews of the movies as I watch them. Feel free to chime in with movies that you missed or your thoughts on classics that you have recently watched for the first time.
The first movie on my list: The Terminator. My review coming soon...
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 19, 2022 18:04:42 GMT -5
Well, we lived in a small town, out in the country and the nearest theater was about 20 miles away; plus, my father was a school teacher and money for luxuries, like movies, was tight. We got to go to the occasional movie; but it was rarely more than a couple a year, for several years. I made up for it when I was able to drive and earn my own money, seeing just about every comedy, sci-fi and action film that came along, from about 1982, until I went off to college in the fall of '84. So, most 1970s movies I saw on either network tv or on video, much later.
I did not get to see Logan's Run, in theater and missed its network debut, because we couldn't tune in the local CBS station very well (it was about 80 miles away, without a strong broadcasting tower). So, All I knew was the 3 out of 5 issues of the Marvel adaptation that my cousin had. I didn't get to see it until I rented it, on videotape. I didn't get to see a Bond film, until Moonraker, in a theater; only on ABC TV. I did not get to see Close Encounters or Alien in the theater; only on video, in college. I missed out on the latter two Sinbad films, Golden Voyage of Sinbad and Sinbad & The Eye of the Tiger. Missed the first 3 Rocky films. I finally got to see Star Wars well after most of my classmates and after seeing the first half of the Marvel adaptation.
I didn't see a Dirty Harry film until The Enforcer was shown on television. Animal House and Caddyshack (and Trading Places and The Blues Brothers) were all after the theatrical run.
What did I get to see in theaters? Well, my dad took us to Return of the Pink Panther, PP Strikes Again and Revenge of the PP. We got dropped off to see The Bad News Bears in Breaking Training and The Gumball Rally (same race but predated the Cannonball Run films). My dad took us to see The Norsemen, with Lee Majors, as a viking. It was as bad as it sounds.
Disney films were more likely, though not many of the animated ones. We see The Million Dollar Duck, when it was new; Return From Witch Mountain, and Candleshoe (which is actually pretty good). We got to see The Apple Dumpling Gang (which is entertaining enough). The closest thing to an adult film, aside from the Pink Panther movies, was Silver Streak, with Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor. No F-bombs and SOB was one of the stronger curse words. No skin, either. My dad did take us to see Midway, which is probably where I first saw a trailer for Rocky and possibly the Star Wars teaser trailer (that might have been a bit later).
My first R-rated film was Uncommon Valor, after I turned 17.
In the late 70s, I earned my own money and my mother had made some money in real estate, so we saw a few more movies in that period, like Star Wars, Silver Streak, Superman. I didn't get to see Star Trek TMP until I had graduated college, in 1988.
At least, in those days, you could catch the better films on network tv, eventually (and edited for content); so, you got to see most of them. Films from the 50s and 60s I could see on syndicated movie packages, usually on weekends, which is how I saw most 60s war films, a lot of great comedies and caper films and the like. 30s and 40s films were a bit rarer and I saw more of those with cable tv and video rental.
One I didn't see until I was over 40 was Casablanca. Most of my life, via tv or other movies, where characters would talk about the film, I had heard about it; but, it was always the parting at the airplane and talked up as this great romantic scene. That sounded sappy and it became a cliched thing; so, I never watched the film. I felt like I knew it, from the constant references in other things. Finally, I decided to sit down and watch it and was blown away by it. It was way better than I had in my head and it was really affecting. The scene where the Nazis are singing their songs and bullying the refugees, in Rick's place and Victor Lazlow tells the band to strike up La Marseilles brought tears to my eyes, because I was so moved at how everyone took up the song and projected the defiance of the Nazis, particularly the singer with the orchestra. It was only later that I learned that many of the extras were refugees from the Nazis and there was nothing phony about the moment. It really is that great of a film, with tremendous and memorable performances. It also really captures the spirit of the times, in a dramatic fashion.
One movie I really wanted to see, at the time, was Excalibur. I was a King Arthur nut and was reading the novel that was released around the time, by John Jakes and Gil Kane (yep, as in Green Lantern), but which had nothing to do with the film. I loved the novel's take on th stuff, as it tried to be a bit more realistic and historical. Then, I saw the film, on video and was underwhelmed. It followed Mallory too much, for my tastes and I would have rather seen more influence from The Once and Future King or Mary Stewart. Helen Mirren was great, as well as Nicol Williamson, as Merlin; but, Nigel Terry was rather underwhelming as Arthur. Only ever saw him in one other thing (an episode of Highlander, The Series) and didn't care for him there, either. John Boorman staged some epic battle stuff; but, a lot of the dialogue fell flat and there was too much of an artifice to the look of many scenes. Also, the scene of Arthur's conception, while Uther is in full armor, was a bit ridiculous. Only later, when I watched it with the commentary track did I learn that Ygraine was played by Boorman's daughter and he was directing her in that scene. Talk about messed up! I think the problem, for me, was that Boorman couldn't decide to either do a fantasy Arthur or a realistic Arthur and vacillated between the two poles and never achieved either or even a synthesis. What was interesting was how many young actors I would see there, but not recall when I encountered them in later films and tv, with much better performances: Gabriel Byrne, Liam Neeson, Ciaran Hinds, Patrick Stewart, Clive Swift (though he wasn't young), and Robert Addie. Of course, Helen Mirren stood out in so many ways, from the performance and her beauty, which wasn't lost of her castmates and future lovers.....
(Warning, appropriate F-bomb, in story context)
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Post by berkley on Jan 19, 2022 21:18:53 GMT -5
I missed a lot of stuff from early the late 60s ad early 70s through being too young to see them at the theatre and the substantial time lag back then between theatrical releases and network tv showings. So many very famous movies like the Godfather or the Exorcistat I didn't get to see until the 1990s, when I finally had a vcr of my own and could rent them.
Then afterwards, into the late 70s and later, when i was old enough to see whatever I wanted, I would still occasionally miss things through not being able to get to them in time before they left town - Alien, for example, was a big one that as a huge SF fan I was really disappointed not to see during its original release. Close Encounters as well - actually I still haven't seen that one; or ET, speaking of Speilberg, but I've never felt any great urge in that last case, and might never get around to it. Terminator I never saw on the big screen but I did see it on video not too long after its original year of release.
But even in terms of seeing them at all, whether small screen or big, there are still many very famous movies I have yet to get to, far too many to start listing them off. One of the things that makes the Favourite Film of Year XXXX thread so much fun is being reminded of all the things you want to see, or learning about ones you didn't know about.
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Post by Randle-El on Jan 20, 2022 0:04:04 GMT -5
I missed a lot of stuff from early the late 60s ad early 70s through being too young to see them at the theatre and the substantial time lag back then between theatrical releases and network tv showings. So many very famous movies like the Godfather or the Exorcistat I didn't get to see until the 1990s, when I finally had a vcr of my own and could rent them. Then afterwards, into the late 70s and later, when i was old enough to see whatever I wanted, I would still occasionally miss things through not being able to get to them in time before they left town - Alien, for example, was a big one that as a huge SF fan I was really disappointed not to see during its original release. Close Encounters as well - actually I still haven't seen that one; or ET, speaking of Speilberg, but I've never felt any great urge in that last case, and might never get around to it. Terminator I never saw on the big screen but I did see it on video not too long after its original year of release. But even in terms of seeing them at all, whether small screen or big, there are still many very famous movies I have yet to get to, far too many to start listing them off. One of the things that makes the Favourite Film of Year XXXX thread so much fun is being reminded of all the things you want to see, or learning about ones you didn't know about.
Close Encounters and Alien are both on my list!
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Post by berkley on Jan 20, 2022 0:16:07 GMT -5
I missed a lot of stuff from early the late 60s ad early 70s through being too young to see them at the theatre and the substantial time lag back then between theatrical releases and network tv showings. So many very famous movies like the Godfather or the Exorcistat I didn't get to see until the 1990s, when I finally had a vcr of my own and could rent them. Then afterwards, into the late 70s and later, when i was old enough to see whatever I wanted, I would still occasionally miss things through not being able to get to them in time before they left town - Alien, for example, was a big one that as a huge SF fan I was really disappointed not to see during its original release. Close Encounters as well - actually I still haven't seen that one; or ET, speaking of Speilberg, but I've never felt any great urge in that last case, and might never get around to it. Terminator I never saw on the big screen but I did see it on video not too long after its original year of release. But even in terms of seeing them at all, whether small screen or big, there are still many very famous movies I have yet to get to, far too many to start listing them off. One of the things that makes the Favourite Film of Year XXXX thread so much fun is being reminded of all the things you want to see, or learning about ones you didn't know about.
Close Encounters and Alien are both on my list!
I never saw the first Alien movie until sometime in the 2000s, I think it was, when it was given a new run in regular theatres. Very glad I finally got to see it on the big screen.
That's probably in part why I still haven't seen Close Encounters - it seems like one of those movies that should be seen on the big screen, not on tv. But it's never been given a re-release, that I've noticed, so I should probably break down and just watch it.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 20, 2022 9:43:21 GMT -5
Close Encounters and Alien are both on my list!
I never saw the first Alien movie until sometime in the 2000s, I think it was, when it was given a new run in regular theatres. Very glad I finally got to see it on the big screen.
That's probably in part why I still haven't seen Close Encounters - it seems like one of those movies that should be seen on the big screen, not on tv. But it's never been given a re-release, that I've noticed, so I should probably break down and just watch it.
Absolutely! Furthermore, there have been a few different releases of the film, and for my money the original one remains the one to see. The second version, with a few added SFX scenes, actually managed to destroy a lot of the magic of the original (because some things are much better left to the imagination than shown to be more mundane than expected). One thing that might hurt a modern first-time viewing of Close Encounters is that at the time we had never seen anything like it. It had a few holy f*** moments that wouldn't seem as impressive today. (I mean, they still work, of course, but the sense of absolute novelty isn't there anymore).
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 20, 2022 10:35:53 GMT -5
The first movie on my list: The Terminator. My review coming soon...
Much like CodyStarbuck I grew up in the country outside a small town. My parents rarely took us to movies as money was short and there were a number of us. And it wasn't like I was going to ride my bike 10-15 miles to the theater (to buy comics, sure, but movies, no). And once I was in high school and could drive, I still seldom saw any movies because we were all busy doing other stuff. So I saw most movies on TV. I didn't even have a video player until my junior year of college. Terminator, on the other hand, is one of the few movies I went to see with my friends. It came out in October of '84 so we would have been going in to our junior year of high school. And I distinctly remember seeing it in the Wilson Theater in Rupert. Because, big sci-fi movie with Schwarzenegger, we were going to see. Roughly 8 months later we all saw Predator at the Alfresco Drive-In.
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Post by Calidore on Jan 20, 2022 10:58:18 GMT -5
Close Encounters and Alien are both on my list!
I never saw the first Alien movie until sometime in the 2000s, I think it was, when it was given a new run in regular theatres. Very glad I finally got to see it on the big screen.
That's probably in part why I still haven't seen Close Encounters - it seems like one of those movies that should be seen on the big screen, not on tv. But it's never been given a re-release, that I've noticed, so I should probably break down and just watch it.
It did get a theatrical release when the Blu-ray first came out, but it wasn't advertised and I just happened to notice it. Sadly, it was just me and one other guy in the theater at the show I went to. I was also disappointed that some brainiac at the studio decided to lead the movie with a making-of short that not only said nothing of interest, but blew every major plot revelation. But that aside, I was reminded that this is still a fabulous movie, and I ended up buying the BR. (I owned the DVD once upon a time but have no idea what happened to it.)
I've still never seen Alien in a theater (wasn't old enough when it was released), but I did see Aliens there. I'd also like to see Blade Runner on a big screen sometime.
As far as movies I've never seen, so, so many. On my docket currently is the classic muscle car threesome of Bullitt, The Driver, and The Getaway.
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Post by badwolf on Jan 20, 2022 12:21:05 GMT -5
I saw the Alien movies all out of order. I think the first I saw was Alien3, in the theatre, then Aliens on VHS, then Resurrection in the theatre and finally the first film on DVD. I was disappointed with the first film, but it was a matter of being hyped up as a classic and having the wrong expectations I think. I gave it another shot years later and now I like it a lot. Now I own the whole series on BD (Covenant on 4K).
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Post by Hoosier X on Jan 20, 2022 16:09:14 GMT -5
Last year, one of my friends texted me that he was watching Three Amigos, and I mentioned that I had never seen it. He started badgering me about missing one of the vital films of the 1980s. (I still find it baffling that he rates Three Amigos so highly.)
I mentioned that there are a lot of films from the 1980s that might be considered essential that I just never got around to seeing, and a lot of them were films that I just wasn’t interested in. I mentioned a few, I think it was The Karate Kid, Dirty Dancing, Footloose, Flashdance, Predator, Commando ...
He asked me if I had lived in a cave for a while! 😆 (To be fair, he does that for a lot of movies that are fairly obscure. A few weeks ago, it somehow came up that I have never seen The Boy in the Plastic Bubble, and you’d think from his reaction that I had never seen Casablanca or The Big Lebowski.)
So I made a list of about 30 or 40 “key” 1980s movies that I had never seen. Some of them weren’t really essential 1980s films. I got a lot of recommendations from people I know and I wrote down a few that I had wanted to see but never got to them (like Twins and Buckaroo Banzai) and I found a couple of “Greatest Movies of the 1980s” lists online and picked off a few films that sounded interesting (like Possession and White Dog).
So that’s what I did for several months in 2021. I watched 1980s films. I didn’t finish the list. Yet. Some of them are hard to find and I also took a break and never really got back to it.
I saw all the films that I mentioned in the second paragraph. I also saw Stop Making Sense, The Grifters, Thief, Mystic Pizza, After Hours, Something Wild, Risky Business, The Decline of Western Civilization, Blow Out, Smithereens, Missing, Sleepaway Camp, Trading Places, Coming to America, The Times of Harvey Milk, Police Story, Hellraiser, Hollywood Shuffle, They Live, Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story, Dead Calm, Sweetie, Boiling Point, Kindergarten Cop, Blind Fury.
And I still haven’t seen White Dog. It looks very entertaining!
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jan 20, 2022 16:55:15 GMT -5
Last year, one of my friends texted me that he was watching Three Amigos, and I mentioned that I had never seen it. He started badgering me about missing one of the vital films of the 1980s. (I still find it baffling that he rates Three Amigos so highly.) (...)
I'm baffled as well. The only lists that movie belongs on are most overhyped films of the '80s or biggest disappointments of the '80s. The entire movie contains only two mildly funny scenes, both centered around Chevy Chase's character.
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Post by berkley on Jan 20, 2022 17:50:40 GMT -5
I saw the Alien movies all out of order. I think the first I saw was Alien3, in the theatre, then Aliens on VHS, then Resurrection in the theatre and finally the first film on DVD. I was disappointed with the first film, but it was a matter of being hyped up as a classic and having the wrong expectations I think. I gave it another shot years later and now I like it a lot. Now I own the whole series on BD (Covenant on 4K). I saw the 2nd and 3rd at the theatre and then the 1st one, I think. Unless the 4th one came after that. I don't remember 3 and 4 very well, to be honest. I liked the first one but regret not having seen it first before I knew anything about the story etc. By the time I did see it, I had seen so many clips and excerpts, not to mention parodies and so on, the impact was much less than I'm sure it would have been had I seen it during the original run.
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Post by badwolf on Jan 20, 2022 17:52:38 GMT -5
I saw the Alien movies all out of order. I think the first I saw was Alien3, in the theatre, then Aliens on VHS, then Resurrection in the theatre and finally the first film on DVD. I was disappointed with the first film, but it was a matter of being hyped up as a classic and having the wrong expectations I think. I gave it another shot years later and now I like it a lot. Now I own the whole series on BD (Covenant on 4K). I saw the 2nd and 3rd at the theatre and then the 1st one, I think. Unless the 4th one came after that. I don't remember 3 and 4 very well, to be honest. I liked the first one but regret not having seen it first before I knew anything about the story etc. By the time I did see it, I had seen so many clips and excerpts, not to mention parodies and so on, the impact was much less than I'm sure it would have been had I seen it during the original run.
Yeah that is unfortunate. Psycho was the same for me (another film I reevaluated when I got the new 4K disc.)
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Post by berkley on Jan 20, 2022 18:10:14 GMT -5
Last year, one of my friends texted me that he was watching Three Amigos, and I mentioned that I had never seen it. He started badgering me about missing one of the vital films of the 1980s. (I still find it baffling that he rates Three Amigos so highly.) I mentioned that there are a lot of films from the 1980s that might be considered essential that I just never got around to seeing, and a lot of them were films that I just wasn’t interested in. I mentioned a few, I think it was The Karate Kid, Dirty Dancing, Footloose, Flashdance, Predator, Commando ... He asked me if I had lived in a cave for a while! 😆 (To be fair, he does that for a lot of movies that are fairly obscure. A few weeks ago, it somehow came up that I have never seen The Boy in the Plastic Bubble, and you’d think from his reaction that I had never seen Casablanca or The Big Lebowski.) So I made a list of about 30 or 40 “key” 1980s movies that I had never seen. Some of them weren’t really essential 1980s films. I got a lot of recommendations from people I know and I wrote down a few that I had wanted to see but never got to them (like Twins and Buckaroo Banzai) and I found a couple of “Greatest Movies of the 1980s” lists online and picked off a few films that sounded interesting (like Possession and White Dog). So that’s what I did for several months in 2021. I watched 1980s films. I didn’t finish the list. Yet. Some of them are hard to find and I also took a break and never really got back to it. I saw all the films that I mentioned in the second paragraph. I also saw Stop Making Sense, The Grifters, Thief, Mystic Pizza, After Hours, Something Wild, Risky Business, The Decline of Western Civilization, Blow Out, Smithereens, Missing, Sleepaway Camp, Trading Places, Coming to America, The Times of Harvey Milk, Police Story, Hellraiser, Hollywood Shuffle, They Live, Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story, Dead Calm, Sweetie, Boiling Point, Kindergarten Cop, Blind Fury. And I still haven’t seen White Dog. It looks very entertaining!
I've been doing a lot of catching up with 1980s stuff the last few years, not only movies, but tv series, books, comics, even some music that I missed at the time. 1980s movies I watched for the first time:
The Hunger - Tony Scott
Withnail & I - Bruce Robinson
La Chute de l'Empire Americain - Denys Arcand
The Thing - John Carpenter Poltergeist - Tobe Hooper Raising Arizona - Coen brothers
Possession - Andrzej Zulawski
hmm, not as many as I'd thought, considering this is over a 2 or 3 year span. Looks like a spent more time on 1980s tv, books, and comics than movies.
I have watched a lot of 1950s movies the last couple years, maybe because there's less tv from that decade to compete for my viewing attention. I'l list those later.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2022 18:30:51 GMT -5
Bone Tomahawk....brutal, absolutely brutal, watching it tonight....
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