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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 1, 2022 9:28:51 GMT -5
Cap's another one I never got the language thing, literally every single WWII vet I know curses. Maybe it's New England thing but it doesn't bother me. Not just a WWII vet but a New Yorker. C’Mon! My wife’s grandfather was a WWII vet and very Mormon. He only cussed in the cow barns. Cows will bring it out of anyone. Ha yeah, Boston definitely doesn't have a monopoly of open cursing, NYC has to be up there too.
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Post by tonebone on Feb 1, 2022 11:33:40 GMT -5
I agree that it totally depends on the character. Wolverine drops a $#%£ bomb in the middle of a fight, I have no problem with that. He’s rough around the edges, older than dirt, and that’s part of who he is. Captain America? Nope. It’s just not him, even fighting Red Skull with the fate of the world in the balance, to go there. It’s why the “language” joke in Age of Ultron fits perfectly. Black Panther? Not him either. T’Challa’s royalty, with a world-class education, and he knows how to carry himself. Thing? I could go either way, but I would lean toward him dropping some colorful language pre-space flight, so it wouldn’t be a shock. Nick Fury (original)? $&%# straight he would. Cap's another one I never got the language thing, literally every single WWII vet I know curses. Maybe it's New England thing but it doesn't bother me. I think Cap would "swear off" swearing because he realizes he's not only a soldier, and a hero, but also a role model for children... I remember reading that Christopher Eccelston had more than a few reasons to dislike playing the Doctor in Doctor Who, but chief among them was the idea that now he was a role model, and he felt that living up to that responsibility was not something he was interested in. Conversely, David Tennant was very careful to not drink or swear in public, and gave up smoking during his stint as the Doctor. He felt like it was his obligation to present himself as a role model for children, and to be a good steward of the character, even off the set.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 1, 2022 18:21:45 GMT -5
Cap's another one I never got the language thing, literally every single WWII vet I know curses. Maybe it's New England thing but it doesn't bother me. I think Cap would "swear off" swearing because he realizes he's not only a soldier, and a hero, but also a role model for children... I remember reading that Christopher Eccelston had more than a few reasons to dislike playing the Doctor in Doctor Who, but chief among them was the idea that now he was a role model, and he felt that living up to that responsibility was not something he was interested in. Conversely, David Tennant was very careful to not drink or swear in public, and gave up smoking during his stint as the Doctor. He felt like it was his obligation to present himself as a role model for children, and to be a good steward of the character, even off the set. Again, I think it's regional, both my father and grandfather swore like fish drink water and they were great role models...that's just normal speech and it would have been the same where Cap came from as Slam pointed out...the only real reason he didn't was that you couldn't do it period in comics when he first came out and that makes it not an actual character trait but just a bit of the production limitations of the time in the same way that we know Batman's cape and Superman's hair were meant to be black not blue.
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Post by badwolf on Feb 16, 2022 13:52:27 GMT -5
Modern/younger writers can't write anything without putting a million swears in. It's one of the reasons I prefer older fiction. It's not that the words "offend" me per se, it's just that it becomes monotonous.
The dingbats (that's what those symbols are called) drive me nuts. Older comics had them only very occasionally. Usually writers would come up with substitute words ("holy spit!" or "ever-lovin'") that might sound quaint or "cheesy" today but it meant that anyone could read them. I think that mainstream superheroes should be for all ages. Don't even get me started on the movies...
There was an instance in an X-Men comic during the Claremont/Byrne period where Wolverine was trying to wind up Professor X by addressing him with informal nicknames, until the professor had a thought balloon with a sort of scribble in it. Actually I didn't read it as a swear at the time, more of a "grumble" sound, but I guess that's what it was supposed to be. It was funny because it was unique.
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Post by badwolf on Feb 16, 2022 13:54:07 GMT -5
Conversely, David Tennant was very careful to not drink or swear in public, and gave up smoking during his stint as the Doctor. He felt like it was his obligation to present himself as a role model for children, and to be a good steward of the character, even off the set. Tom Baker was like this too I think.
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Post by Mormel on Mar 24, 2022 5:51:22 GMT -5
I should re-read my Secret Empire but didn't Cap used to throw in some choice 'damns' and 'hells' under Englehart's pen when he was particularly stressed out? I figured the 'Cap doesn't swear' thing was something from the MCU (and dropped in Endgame).
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Post by badwolf on Apr 5, 2022 16:40:44 GMT -5
I'm noticing in John Byrne's Namor that everyone says "Hades"... feels a bit odd.
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