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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 17, 2022 19:43:46 GMT -5
I better start counting, I might be getting close to 10 already. This is why i did a running count.
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Post by Duragizer on Apr 17, 2022 20:59:37 GMT -5
I'm gonna start skipping over creators whom I haven't read.
Matt Wagner — Of his stuff, I think I've only read Batman and the Mad Monk. I don't recall being particularly wowed by it.
Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez — His art's gorgeous, but I haven't read nearly enough to get exceptionally warm fuzzy feelings for it.
Gary Larson — I read a lot of Far Side collections when I was a kid. I really wanted to like him. But I'm like Homer Simpson in that one Halloween episode; I just "don't get it". I like how he draws skulls, though.
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Post by berkley on Apr 17, 2022 22:48:58 GMT -5
As I feared, after Day 18, I'm already up to nine:
Kirby Moebius Gilbert Hernandez Jaime Hernandez Alan Moore Steve Gerber Milton Caniff Al Williamson Wally Wood
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Post by Trevor on Apr 18, 2022 7:09:32 GMT -5
Day Twenty-One Response and Wrap—Up
I love Gary Larson’s humor and his art is perfect for this type of gag panel art. He’d make the ‘strip’ list for sure. And if I really thought about what creators have impacted my life most, he might have to be on it. Sharing his work with friends was a huge part of my social life for years, and I still laugh when I stumble on his work or dig out the books. But I’m cheating and not counting strip guys here.
I’m sadly negligent in exploring classic strips. I love the bits of Krazy Kat I’ve seen, and imagine I’ll sing Herriman’s praises someday.
Similar comments with Foster and Raymond. Love their style and like the few strips I’ve read over the years, but I’ve never dived in and read a full storyline. Mean to, just mountains of unread books that never seem to dwindle.
Walt Kelly I’ve explored much more of, and love his work. I’ve been accumulating the Pogo reprints and some of his other work. I haven’t read enough of it yet to put him in my top ten, but I’m pretty sure he’ll be in my top ten someday. The few full comics I’ve read of his are wonderful, and I’m thinking the strip may end up rivaling Calvin and Hobbes as my favorite.
But no additions to my list for now. Frank Miller Jack Kirby Carl Barks Alan Moore Mike Mignola Jeff Lemire Bernie Wrightson Matt Wagner
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Post by Trevor on Apr 18, 2022 7:10:32 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Two Choices
Today we’re talking Valiant. Creators some were probably introduced to via Valiant.
Today I ask you if Joe Quesada, Barry Windsor-Smith, David Lapham, Jim Shooter, Tim Truman, or Bob Layton are on your list.
This also allows me to add Matt Kindt and Jim Lee (for that shitty Hard Corps cover) and I will even go to flyover incarnations and offer you up Kurt Busiek and Mark Waid. Waid is probably most famous in comics for co-creating Doctor Tomorrow.
Hell you might be a Jimmy Palmiotti guy if you like Harley and Hex idk.
Are any Valiant alumni on your list?
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Post by EdoBosnar on Apr 18, 2022 7:19:30 GMT -5
No to all of them, although BWS and Busiek figure quite prominently in that just-short-of-top-ten category of mine that now has about 30 creators in it. Shooter and Layton have also contributed to some of my favorite comics, so they rank pretty high as well.
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 18, 2022 7:31:18 GMT -5
No to all of the Valiant crew, as well as to Busiek and Waid. The latter two rank high in my estimation, but the open spots on my list are reserved for several specific cartoonists (at least one of whom I sincerely doubt will come up in this survey... unless I bring him up).
Cei-U! I summon the "Thanks, but no thanks!"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2022 8:25:20 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Two ChoicesToday we’re talking Valiant. Creators some were probably introduced to via Valiant. Today I ask you if Joe Quesada, Barry Windsor-Smith, David Lapham, Jim Shooter, Tim Truman, or Bob Layton are on your list. This also allows me to add Matt Kindt and Jim Lee (for that shitty Hard Corps cover) and I will even go to flyover incarnations and offer you up Kurt Busiek and Mark Waid. Waid is probably most famous in comics for co-creating Doctor Tomorrow. Hell you might be a Jimmy Palmiotti guy if you like Harley and Hex idk. Are any Valiant alumni on your list? I've only got 2 spots left and they are already accounted for by names not on this list. But Windsor-Smith is an old favorite for sure. Layton as well, and while I love his inking, getting actual pencils like on Hercules was always a treat. Busiek was THE writer for me in the 90's as well (Astro City, Avengers Forever, Untold Tales of Spider-Man, etc.), and had a great chat one time at a convention with him back in the day. His wife was there as well with their at the time new baby sitting next to him and I thought that was pretty neat that they were hanging together as a family.
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Post by badwolf on Apr 18, 2022 8:52:33 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Two ChoicesToday we’re talking Valiant. Creators some were probably introduced to via Valiant. Today I ask you if Joe Quesada, Barry Windsor-Smith, David Lapham, Jim Shooter, Tim Truman, or Bob Layton are on your list. This also allows me to add Matt Kindt and Jim Lee (for that shitty Hard Corps cover) and I will even go to flyover incarnations and offer you up Kurt Busiek and Mark Waid. Waid is probably most famous in comics for co-creating Doctor Tomorrow. Hell you might be a Jimmy Palmiotti guy if you like Harley and Hex idk. Are any Valiant alumni on your list? Quesada: Decent artist but no.
BWS: Good artist but no.
Lapham: Don't know.
Shooter: An important figure but as writer or artist, absolutely not.
Truman: Not that familiar.
Layton: Good artist but creator, no.
Kindt: Don't know.
Jim Lee: Certainly not.
Busiek: Good writer but not a "creator" for me.
Waid: No.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 18, 2022 9:40:58 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Two ChoicesToday we’re talking Valiant. Creators some were probably introduced to via Valiant. Today I ask you if Joe Quesada, Barry Windsor-Smith, David Lapham, Jim Shooter, Tim Truman, or Bob Layton are on your list. This also allows me to add Matt Kindt and Jim Lee (for that shitty Hard Corps cover) and I will even go to flyover incarnations and offer you up Kurt Busiek and Mark Waid. Waid is probably most famous in comics for co-creating Doctor Tomorrow. Hell you might be a Jimmy Palmiotti guy if you like Harley and Hex idk. Are any Valiant alumni on your list? I've never read a single Valiant book. Joe Quesada - No Barry Windsor-Smith - Great artist, but no. David Lapham - I don't know that I've ever read his work. Jim Shooter - Oh Lord no. Tim Truman - I love Tim Truman. So I'll slate him in and see if he sticks. Great artist and writer. Bob Layton - Nope. Matt Kindt - I don't like his art at all. Jim Lee - No. Definitely no. Kurt Busiek - I really love Astro City, but he doesn't make it. Mark Waid - No. Jimmy Palmiotti - I did like that first run of Jonah Hex. But no. Top Ten (Comic Books): Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore, Carl Barks, Dawn Cooke, Warren Ellis, Alan Brennart, Garth Ennis, Ed Brubaker, Wally Wood, Tim Truman Top Ten (Comic Strips): Walt Kelly, Bill Watterson, Berke Breathed, Gary Larson, Milton Caniff, Charles Schulz, Al Williamson,
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Post by tarkintino on Apr 18, 2022 9:44:22 GMT -5
Joe Quesada: No, and then some.
Barry Windsor-Smith: No.
David Lapham: No.
Jim Shooter: Undoubtedly, one of the best examples of a former fan who became influential in the business--one of those "double threats" I mentioned in the Stan Lee post, but not top ten.
Tim Truman: no.
Bob Layton: Great work when paired with John Romita Jr., but certainly not a top ten candidate.
Matt Kindt: No.
Jim Lee: That's a big Hell No to this one, and any of his fellow hacks who wrecked comics.
Kurt Busiek and Mark Waid: While neither are top ten, they are high on an overall list--perhaps in the top 25; Waid for the industry masterwork Kingdom Come, Busiek for Marvels. I assume Trevor named them together for this obvious similarity of work and partnership with Alex Ross. Seismic work; both titles presented the heart and "legend" of superheroes with realistic consideration to a far superior degree than anything DC and Marvel published in the 90s (and some other decades) and should be "must-read / must-have" titles.
Jimmy Palmiotti: no.
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Post by arfetto on Apr 18, 2022 9:51:19 GMT -5
I wish I had room for Barry Windsor-Smith and David Lapham. Jim Shooter is on my top ten.
I forgot, I also really like Busiek's writing, but he won't be on my top ten.
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Post by MDG on Apr 18, 2022 10:16:50 GMT -5
Most comic strip creators only did one thing (ok Johnny Hart did two) and to get on my list a top creator would have to have their hand in a multitude of ideas and work. So no to all of them. I don't get this thinking at all, especially with names like Roy Thomas or Herb Trimpe or Denny O'Neil or any number of people who did/have been doing the same thing for decades coming up. They may have been jumping from series to series--even company to company--but it's all basically the same thing.
Comic strip creators may work on the same strip for decades, but also experiment with tone, types of story, narrative devices, etc.
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Post by MDG on Apr 18, 2022 10:24:34 GMT -5
Day Twenty-Two ChoicesToday we’re talking Valiant. Creators some were probably introduced to via Valiant. Today I ask you if Joe Quesada, Barry Windsor-Smith, David Lapham, Jim Shooter, Tim Truman, or Bob Layton are on your list. This also allows me to add Matt Kindt and Jim Lee (for that shitty Hard Corps cover) and I will even go to flyover incarnations and offer you up Kurt Busiek and Mark Waid. Waid is probably most famous in comics for co-creating Doctor Tomorrow. Hell you might be a Jimmy Palmiotti guy if you like Harley and Hex idk. Are any Valiant alumni on your list? Nope.
Comic Books: Kirby, Ditko, Xaime Hernandez, Clowes
Comic Strips: Watterson, Caniff, Schulz, Raymond, Herriman
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Post by Trevor on Apr 18, 2022 10:40:09 GMT -5
In case anyone wants a refresher, or doesn’t want to scroll thru the thread, here are all the picks so far, by day.
Pretty sure everyone’s top ten creators will be mentioned by day 35, one way or another, I’m leaning towards that length as a capper. I’ll post this list in the thread wiki.
Frank Miller
Neil Gaiman, Jack Kirby
Moebius, Jacques Tardi
Carl Barks, Paul Pope
any Buscema, Hernandez, Kubert, or Romita
Alan Moore, Grant Morrison
Berkeley Breathed, Bill Watterson
Neal Adams, David Mazzuchelli
Art Adams, Mike Allred, John Byrne, Paul Chadwick, Geoff Darrow, Dave Gibbons, Mike Mignola, Walt Simonson
Gerry Conway, Paul Dini, Steve Gerber, Russ Heath, Denny O’Neil, Roy Thomas, Bruce Timm, Marv Wolfman
Darwyn Cooke, George Perez
Warren Ellis, Jeff Lemire
Brian Azzarello, Brian Michael Bendis, Brian Bolland, Brian K Vaughan, Bryan Talbot
Alan Brennert, Milton Caniff, Alan Davis, Al Gordon, Alan Grant, Alan Kupperberg, Charles Schulz
Ross Andru, Steve Ditko, Gil Kane, Todd McFarlane
Ed Brubaker, Jack Davis, Garth Ennis, Frank Frazetta
Chris Claremont, Richard Corben, Keith Giffen, Brandon Graham, Geoff Johns, Dave McKean, Dave Stevens, Al Williamson
Bill Sienkiewicz, Wally Wood, Bernie Wrightson
Daniel Clowes, Katsuhiro Otomo, Gary Panter, Chris Ware
Simon Bisley, Jonathan Hickman, Stan Lee, Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez, Rick Remender, Matt Wagner
Hal Foster, George Herriman, Walt Kelly, Gary Larson, Alex Raymond
Kurt Busiek, Matt Kindt, David Latham, Bob Layton, Jim Lee, Jimmy Palmiotti, Joe Quesada, Jim Shooter, Tim Truman, Mark Waid, Barry Windsor-Smith
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