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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 10, 2022 15:59:28 GMT -5
I didn't notice and haven't paid attention; but, did they introduce Herc in this? I see Olympus; but didn't spot an obvious Hercules. Be a bit of a spoiler now wouldn’t it?
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 10, 2022 17:46:09 GMT -5
I avoid trailers like the plague. New movies will be available on torrents for me to see and I'd rather not have anything spoiled beforehand
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Post by The Captain on Jul 10, 2022 18:26:53 GMT -5
I liked this movie, but didn't love it. There were some fun moments and some good action sequences, but it was a disjointed outing, much like Thor: Ragnorok. Credit to Taika Waititi for trying to do something out of the norm for Marvel, but he keeps missing the mark. The best part of the movie was Christian Bale as Gorr. You could feel for him while also being creeped out by him, but when you cast great actors, you tend to get great performances if you give them something to work with, which the writers did in this case. Natalie Portman also delivered a better-than-expected performance and showed some chemistry with Chris Hemsworth here that was absent from her first two outings. Maybe giving her an actual role instead of being "love interest cypher" energized her. The movie was certainly not without flaws. Some of the CGI, especially in the first fight with Thor, is atrocious (like "close to She-Hulk trailer" bad), and there were a few jokes that were painfully corny instead of being witty like they intended. Russell Crowe probably put on 25 pounds chewing all that scenery, and they also pushed the envelope with the language that I felt was out of place for the most part, but I'm an old man and I don't like kids on my lawn either, so take my assessment with a giant grain of salt. {Spoiler: Click to show} I was worried that the trailer's blurring of Chris Hemsworth's ass would stay in the film, which would have been off-putting, but Disney actually allowed the first nudity in a MCU film. It certainly wasn't for me, but there were three ladies I attended the showing with that didn't seem bothered by it in the least.
Love them giving a small scene to Darcy with Jane. When you have the history that the MCU has, bringing back fan favorites is a nice touch.
First post-credits scene gave us the introduction of Thor's greatest frenemy, while the second was a nice touch to give closure to a couple of characters (although who knows how the afterlife works for Asgardians).
The goats' screams are both incredibly annoying and amusing. I must have them as my text alert, because I'm an ass like that.
The scene with the kids imbued with Thor's power at the end was both kind of silly but also pretty cool, because they accurately showed what kids would do with the power of a god. Big props to Ballerina Girl and Stuffed Bunny Girl and their use of what they were given.
They showed two Celestials in Omnipotent City and there was a Celestial head statue in Eternity's realm, further tying the Eternals into the MCU, which they desperately needed if they want to make the Eternals a thing.
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Post by zaku on Jul 11, 2022 4:54:57 GMT -5
I didn't notice and haven't paid attention; but, did they introduce Herc in this? I see Olympus; but didn't spot an obvious Hercules. Uhmmm a very spoilerific question...
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 26, 2022 20:24:27 GMT -5
Saw it today... all I can think to say is Meh. There were a few good moments, and I agree Portman's Jane Foster was WAY better this time around, but it really just didn't do anything for me. Waikiti is fun, but I think I've just had enough of his stuff... most of the humor fell flat for me here, and there were no twists in the plot or fun cameos to give fans anything to talk about.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Sept 16, 2022 8:34:17 GMT -5
It finally arrived on Disney+, so thanks to my son's subscription I got to watch it last weekend.
Meh. It felt really discombobulated. Fun overall, so I don't regret watching it, but for the life of me I have NO idea how film critics can rate it so highly (in our newspaper in got 8 stars out of ten) while dissing other MCU movies that were, in my opinion, far better.
It had a very tragic villain... whose tragedy isn't exploited at all. It has a major divine genocide... that we don't actually witness. It has the return (and maiming) of a major secondary character, but that's treated as a humorous side-note. Due to its constant comedic tone, it has no dramatic tension whatsoever, be it when Korg dies (won't last!), when Jane dies (she's bound to Valhalla, so not really "dead"), or when the villain triumphs (we've been treated to so much comedy by that point that we know there's no way he actually kills everyone). No moment of awe, no moment where we go "oh, sh*t!". The best we manage is the comfort of seeing Thor and Jane again, and the feel-good friendship between the main characters.
The numerous jokes made me smile, true, but often detracted from the story rather than enhanced it. Thor's bon mot about Sif's arm being in Vahalla might have been meant to show that these space vikings laugh in the face of personal tragedy, but as a viewer it mostly got me to think that this horrible wound just wasn't that bad; that everything was played for laughs. "They'll probably regrow it by magic or use a robot arm later on or somethin'." (They actually didn't, but then Sif wasn't seen again until a brief cameo at the end).
In fact, the entire movie was very, very kid-friendly. Nothing of consequence happens, children get to play superhero, and a rather unscary villain renounces his evil ways in the end. That being said, this is a superhero movie... so perhaps it is quite appropriate that it be a kids' movie, light-hearted and colourful. Personally, though, I preferred the other Thor movies; I think they handled the mix of drama, emotional development, humor and action in a more balanced and believable way.
Thumbs up for the several Easter eggs, which are always fun (the One Above All? Cool). I particularly liked seeing Matt Damon and Luke Hemsworth reprising their roles of Loki and Thor in the Asgardian stage play!
Will there be a Thor 5? I'd like that, because the character is fun; I'm just not sure where he can go from there. He'd need a sharp break from his comedic period, like the JLA after its Bwah-ha-ha era. I'm just not sure that the public at large would prefer that; perhaps screaming goats and Asgardian bare buttocks are more popular. I get the feeling that if we were to present, say, the Mangog saga, ordinary viewers would go "uh? This isn't funny! What happened?"
That being said, Waititi's role as director was to give us a movie, not to set up the franchise's future. And overall, despite its faults, I did enjoy the film.
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Post by Prince Hal on Sept 16, 2022 15:25:42 GMT -5
I get the feeling that if we were to present, say, the Mangog saga, ordinary viewers would go "uh? This isn't funny! What happened?" Haven't seen this one, probably won't, but wouldn't a decent Mangog saga be a good way to show that things do get serious occasionally in Asgard House?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Sept 16, 2022 17:18:48 GMT -5
I get the feeling that if we were to present, say, the Mangog saga, ordinary viewers would go "uh? This isn't funny! What happened?" Haven't seen this one, probably won't, but wouldn't a decent Mangog saga with be a good way to show that things do get serious occasionally in Asgard House? I'd love it, but it would be a tall order. But who knows? Hope springs eternal in the fountain of Mimir. *Edit* I just re-watched Thor: The Dark World, which was a more serious Thor movie... and by the bristling beard of Odin, it remains among my top five favourite MCU films! That's the film that made Loki Loki. It's also one of the few in which supporting characters had important arcs of their own and got to really shine, even if only for a few moments. Frigga's funeral is also one of the most emotional scenes we've had in these films, topped only by the portals scene at the climax of Endgame (in my humble opinion). Plus: a brilliant score, and lovely painted end credits. Jack and Stan would be proud.
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Post by berkley on Sept 23, 2022 21:28:26 GMT -5
I wasn't attracted to the story of this new Thor movie and already thought the comedy was a bit too obtrusive at times in some of the earlier ones so I probably won't see it. I might look for online clips to see how they show Mount Olympus and the MU Olympian pantheon, though, if they're there.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Sept 24, 2022 17:47:02 GMT -5
I wasn't attracted to the story of this new Thor movie and already thought the comedy was a bit too obtrusive at times in some of the earlier ones so I probably won't see it. I might look for online clips to see how they show Mount Olympus and the MU Olympian pantheon, though, if they're there. Not really. They show a place called Omnipotence City, which is far more like a sybaritic United Nations than Mount Olympus. Zeus is a big shot there (Thor is a big fan of his, by the way) and he looks like he's calling the shots, but there's nothing really Greek about the place; it's just a CGI-fest. It could have been any fantasy magical city. Omnipotence City is just a place with lots of gods from many pantheons... and one wonders why Thor didn't ask for help there when Thanos was a threat. The only reason I can think of to watch the movie again would be to spot all the Easter eggs I missed the first time. Well, and okay... I'm a sucker for stories about lovers who find each other again...
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Post by berkley on Oct 3, 2022 1:37:18 GMT -5
I wasn't attracted to the story of this new Thor movie and already thought the comedy was a bit too obtrusive at times in some of the earlier ones so I probably won't see it. I might look for online clips to see how they show Mount Olympus and the MU Olympian pantheon, though, if they're there. Not really. They show a place called Omnipotence City, which is far more like a sybaritic United Nations than Mount Olympus. Zeus is a big shot there (Thor is a big fan of his, by the way) and he looks like he's calling the shots, but there's nothing really Greek about the place; it's just a CGI-fest. It could have been any fantasy magical city. Omnipotence City is just a place with lots of gods from many pantheons... and one wonders why Thor didn't ask for help there when Thanos was a threat. The only reason I can think of to watch the movie again would be to spot all the Easter eggs I missed the first time. Well, and okay... I'm a sucker for stories about lovers who find each other again...
Thanks, that helps me decide. I already disliked the premise of the whole god-killer storyline when I heard about it in the comics, so a movie based on it was never going to be number one on my must-see list.
I wonder if there'll be a reaction to this comedic approach at some point and they'll start de-emphasising the humour.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2023 14:15:42 GMT -5
Meh. It felt really discombobulated. Fun overall, so I don't regret watching it, but for the life of me I have NO idea how film critics can rate it so highly (in our newspaper in got 8 stars out of ten) while dissing other MCU movies that were, in my opinion, far better. It had a very tragic villain... whose tragedy isn't exploited at all. It has a major divine genocide... that we don't actually witness. It has the return (and maiming) of a major secondary character, but that's treated as a humorous side-note. Due to its constant comedic tone, it has no dramatic tension whatsoever, be it when Korg dies (won't last!), when Jane dies (she's bound to Valhalla, so not really "dead"), or when the villain triumphs (we've been treated to so much comedy by that point that we know there's no way he actually kills everyone). No moment of awe, no moment where we go "oh, sh*t!". The best we manage is the comfort of seeing Thor and Jane again, and the feel-good friendship between the main characters. You have taken the words out of my mouth, so to speak. Very mixed feelings about this. Of course, there were good moments, but I am not entirely convinced humour and Thor mix. I honestly cannot fault aspects such as Thor/Foster, Gorr the God Butcher, etc. In a way, this film was akin to fast food. I like a McDonalds meal now and again (probably 1-2 times a year), but I regret eating it after it’s over, and deep down, I know a more substantial meal would have been better. The mixed feelings are tough to deal with. I mean, Omnipotence City looked intriguing and beautiful. I was playing “spot the god” in there (did I spot a Hindu deity, for instance?). But why reduce Zeus to comic relief? I thought I was watching a deleted scene from a comedy. Zeus should and must have gravitas. I believe the scene could have been almost the same with a serious Zeus. The anger towards Thor, the battle and so much else could have happened even with a serious Zeus. But I did feel a certain sense of joy after watching it, especially during poignant moments. I’m just not sure it’s the Thor film I would have produced. Incidentally, I would like to see a Don Blake/Thor dynamic but short of a reboot for the MCU’s Thor, I don’t see that happening. Finally, it feels odd to post reviews of films released months ago, but I rarely go to the cinema now. I saw this last night.
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Post by badwolf on May 9, 2023 21:02:07 GMT -5
Once again, far too comedic for me, although the only parts I actually laughed at were 1) Korg repeatedly getting Jane's name wrong and 2) the god of dumplings (was hoping it would reappear in the finale).
The confrontation on the shadow world was good, really the only part of the film that was played straight.
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