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Post by spoon on Oct 15, 2022 12:12:06 GMT -5
Looks like Daredevil is a big winner here, so I'll try that one next. Gene Colan's art is definitely a bonus. I've got Frank Miller's runs, so it will be interesting revisiting them with the full background, and maybe trying what came after (and in between) this time. Ann Nocenti wrote the book for quite a while after Miller, but I always struggled getting into her work and dropped the book at that point. Maybe it's time to revisit that run with fresh eyes. Then I think it was Dan Chichester, who I'm not familiar with at all. Tend to agree with you, spoon , about the endless cliffhangers, but the segments flow so smoothly, it feels like that was those creators' natural style. I no doubt would have been frustrated buying them as a kid--and helplessly continued to buy them while grumbling. I read a handful of Ann Nocenti issues when I was a kid when they were new on the stands. Then, a few years ago, I did a giant binge read of Daredevil #147-300 (which among many other things, includes all of Nocenti and the early part of Chichester). I think Nocenti's run works better reading as a binge read after the fact than it would've been reading it a month at a time over several years. Her writing can be heavy-handed at times and she really put Matt through the ringer. But I think it was easier to appreciate it when it was one phase of Daredevil mythos seen retrospectively, rather than the only take on Daredevil that your stuck with seemingly for the foreseeable future. The portion of Chichester that I've read is more conventional, for good or ill. I really like the Lee Weeks art that goes to #300. And the arc that culminates in #300 has callback to "Born Again" and is really good. A few weeks back, I read the Epic Collection that starts with #301, and I think I'm going to mix the rest of the Chichester run with my comics reading over the next few months. |
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Post by Ricky Jackson on Oct 15, 2022 14:22:52 GMT -5
I've gone through a good chunk of 60s DD over the last two years, basically #s 12-71. (I read the early stuff/Wood issues years ago in the 1-11 Masterworks) Personally, I really liked Romita as the artist and wish he had a longer run. Colan is great, of course, but after reading Tomb with Palmer inking him, I wasn't enamored with the inking of his pencils on DD. The villains are fun, but the Matt/Foggy/Karen soap opera is mostly tedious. And yeah, Mike Murdock is...well, not so bad it's good, but close. IMO, this is Stan Lee at, maybe not his worst, but definitely his most verbose. (Roy Thomas too when he takes over) I ended up skimming a lot of the text (and there is A LOT) and just reading the art. All in all, great to look at but not the most gripping Silver Age Marvel read
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Post by Calidore on Oct 15, 2022 17:40:36 GMT -5
Looks like Daredevil is a big winner here, so I'll try that one next. Gene Colan's art is definitely a bonus. I've got Frank Miller's runs, so it will be interesting revisiting them with the full background, and maybe trying what came after (and in between) this time. Ann Nocenti wrote the book for quite a while after Miller, but I always struggled getting into her work and dropped the book at that point. Maybe it's time to revisit that run with fresh eyes. Then I think it was Dan Chichester, who I'm not familiar with at all. Tend to agree with you, spoon , about the endless cliffhangers, but the segments flow so smoothly, it feels like that was those creators' natural style. I no doubt would have been frustrated buying them as a kid--and helplessly continued to buy them while grumbling. I read a handful of Ann Nocenti issues when I was a kid when they were new on the stands. Then, a few years ago, I did a giant binge read of Daredevil #147-300 (which among many other things, includes all of Nocenti and the early part of Chichester). I think Nocenti's run works better reading as a binge read after the fact than it would've been reading it a month at a time over several years. Her writing can be heavy-handed at times and she really put Matt through the ringer. But I think it was easier to appreciate it when it was one phase of Daredevil mythos seen retrospectively, rather than the only take on Daredevil that your stuck with seemingly for the foreseeable future. The portion of Chichester that I've read is more conventional, for good or ill. I really like the Lee Weeks art that goes to #300. And the arc that culminates in #300 has callback to "Born Again" and is really good. A few weeks back, I read the Epic Collection that starts with #301, and I think I'm going to mix the rest of the Chichester run with my comics reading over the next few months.
It's going to be quite a while for me, so I'll be interested in your further opinion of him when you get there.
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Post by commond on Oct 15, 2022 18:43:20 GMT -5
The Ann Nocenti/John Romita Jr. Daredevil's was one of the first titles I was attracted to when I started buying comics off the newsstands, largely because of Romita's art. (I didn't realize until much later the role Al Williamson played in making the art so striking.) It was one of my favorite titles from '88-90 along with Uncanny X-Men, Justice League International, and whatever books Byrne was doing. It was a strange time for Marvel. You still had editors who were writers, and the writers had more control over the books than the artists. There were a lot of weird ideas in the book that may have been typical for the direct market but were still being sold to kids on the newsstands. It's kind of shocking to me how mature some of the themes were for run-of-the-mill comic books. Nocentri brings a sort of pre-Vertigo sensibility to the book and leads Daredevil on a bunch of adventures he wouldn't ordinarily have had. Personally, I enjoyed how eccentric it was, but I can imagine some folks finding it strange or out of place for Daredevil, and I'm sure there are worthwhile critiques of its merits as pertains to the writing. I just remember it as one of my favorite books from my discovery phase.
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Post by spoon on Oct 15, 2022 22:43:49 GMT -5
I read a handful of Ann Nocenti issues when I was a kid when they were new on the stands. Then, a few years ago, I did a giant binge read of Daredevil #147-300 (which among many other things, includes all of Nocenti and the early part of Chichester). I think Nocenti's run works better reading as a binge read after the fact than it would've been reading it a month at a time over several years. Her writing can be heavy-handed at times and she really put Matt through the ringer. But I think it was easier to appreciate it when it was one phase of Daredevil mythos seen retrospectively, rather than the only take on Daredevil that your stuck with seemingly for the foreseeable future. The portion of Chichester that I've read is more conventional, for good or ill. I really like the Lee Weeks art that goes to #300. And the arc that culminates in #300 has callback to "Born Again" and is really good. A few weeks back, I read the Epic Collection that starts with #301, and I think I'm going to mix the rest of the Chichester run with my comics reading over the next few months.
It's going to be quite a while for me, so I'll be interested in your further opinion of him when you get there.
Chichester's credits on Daredevil are #292–309, #312–332, #338–342, #380. I read #292-300 most recently during that binge a few years back. I read #301-309 in that TPB just a few weeks ago. The rest, except #380, I purchase not too long ago, so they're on my to-read list. |
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