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Post by foxley on Dec 20, 2022 7:26:12 GMT -5
You might not want to visit Australia, then. That’s precisely why I won’t be heading to Australia. Don't worry. If you're lucky, the spiders will kill the snakes.
Sweet dreams.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2022 8:56:55 GMT -5
On the Eighth Day of Christmas, the Ghost of Christmas Villainy told me there's nothing worse than stinkin' trolls, particularly when Bert, William and Tom get together to discuss recipes for cookin' dwarves, so today's choice is just those three... A Terrible Trio of Trolls-Bert, William, and Tom three fine trolls of Middle Earth dedicated to making dwarven delicacies (and unable to tell a hobbit from a dwarf, as adapted by David Wenzel and Chuck Dixon. from... The scene with the trolls may be my favorite scene in The Hobbit and one of my favorite scenes in all of heroic literature with its mix of menace, malice, bravery and humor, and David Wenzel's comic portrayal of that seen absolutely fills me with delight every time I revisit it. Bert, William and Tom are some of my favorite dim-witted antagonists and adversaries on the pages of any medium, and this comic adaptation is pure joy for me, so any discussion of my favorite villains has to include them. And again, these three bridge (get it trolls and a bridge) the gap between nostalgic favorites and those I still cherish and enjoy reading to this day. -M
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 20, 2022 9:06:55 GMT -5
5. Lord Hikiji and Lord HebiThey are the head and hand of Clan Hikiji (which is somewhat odd, since Hebi, "the hand", is a snake and doesn't actually have any limb). Lord Hikiji is the man who caused the most grief to Miyamoto Usagi. He defeated Usagi's master, Lord Mifune, forcing the samurai to become a ronin; he killed Usagi's father; he also left Usagi with a facial scar that reminds our hero of what he lost whenever he looks at his reflection. Hikiji is a cunning strategist, who will stop at nothing to become Japan's shogun; he plays a very long game, and his ruthless ways are unencumbered by anything resembling kindness, honesty or decency. He is literally ready to consider any action that would advance his position. But a strategist is no good if there's no one to execute his orders. Lord Hebi, an ophidian samurai, is an ever resourceful servant, devoted to the extreme. Hikiji would never get caught doing anything illegal or even shady; not for him are dealings with spies, ninja clans or saboteurs. That is the province of Hebi, who maintains a huige network of agents and executes his master's will with cold-blooded efficiency. It is because of Stan Sakai's masterful depiction of the bond between the two that the death of Lord Hikiji in the out-of-continuity story Senso (which is a Usagi - War of the Worlds mash-up) was so powerful. It is said that the better samurai is not the one who dutifully serves a good master, but the one who dutifully serves a bad one. If so, Hebi could be the best samurai of them all.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 20, 2022 9:28:16 GMT -5
#5- Black Widow & HawkeyeBefore they became the World's Greatest Heroes, they were some of Marvel's Most Wanted. What's not to love about Natasha and Clint? I love Tales of Suspense #57; it's one of my favorite first appearances I own. I enjoy the team up of these two. Their initial meeting of a crime gone wrong turned into a partnership that made for good 60s romance schmaltz and villainy. Helping the Black Widow steal Stark technology for the Russians. Sadly his naivety lead him down the wrong path but for that one year before going on the straight and narrow, the two of them made for a run Stan Lee reading.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 20, 2022 9:35:39 GMT -5
5. Dr. Doom and the Sub-MarinerMy first complete series review thread here, Bad Tidings, was devoted to Marvel's mid-70's series, SUPER-VILLAIN TEAM-UP, so how could I not include the leads of that uneven-but-never-uninteresting run here in this year's CCC? You may well argue, as did readers of the day, that Namor didn't merit "super-villain" status, but there's no arguing against the logo, people! Doctor Doom was one of my favorite villains early on. I think my first exposure to him was in MARVEL TRIPLE ACTION #4, the cover logo of which promoted Doom (along with the Thing and the Silver Surfer) as one of the three leads, rather than the Fantastic Four, from whose comic the interior was reprinted. But I've established the significance of logo several times already this year, so even if Doom's billing here wasn't quite as formal as I'd like, it counted in my 12-year-old mind. Namor took a lot longer to grow on me, but he would eventually become one of my favorite Marvel characters, which he remains to this day. The pairing of these two as a highly unstable but menacing team made sense to me, both of them royalty dealing with tragic circumstances. What I found most fascinating was that unlike more carefully calculated teams, this pairing forced together very similar personalities rather than intentionally contrasting ones. Both were haughty, boastful, aggressive men, who should have been in opposition according to their nature, constantly trying to get the upper hand on one another, but men of honor, in their own way, bound by oath, obligated to the letter of their pact. Yes, it was better in concept than in execution, which we could say about many of this year's entries, but in comics, an intriguing concept can often make up for a flawed production, and for me, S-V T-U did just that, thanks to this memorable and menacing match-up!
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Post by commond on Dec 20, 2022 9:40:34 GMT -5
For the Eighth Day of Christmas, I'm making my first manga pick. I probably could have made a list entirely full of manga villains if I'd tried. Japanese mangaka are big on pathos, and their villains often have incredibly tragic backstories. Villains' deaths tend to be poignant and moving, and there's been more than one occasion where I've thought, "I can't believe they made me feel sorry for him (or her)!" The manga I've chosen for today is Fullmetal Alchemist. Fullmetal Alchemist is the story of two young alchemists, who break the laws of alchemy by trying to bring their mother back to life through human transmutation. The boys suffer terrible consequences for their actions, and set out on a quest to restore their bodies by obtaining a philosopher's stone. It's a tremendous action-adventure story that blends elements of dark fantasy and steampunk. There's incredible world-building, a huge over-arching plot, a wide array of characters and excellent characterizations. And it has a satisfying ending to boot. Judging by people's tastes here, I think a lot of folks would enjoy dipping their toes into Fullmetal Alchemist and other mangas like it. The great thing about Fullmetal is that it's relatively short at 108 chapters. It also spawned a pair of anime series, one of which is completely faithful to the manga. All right, on with the villains! I'm going to put today's picture as a spoiler in case anyone fancies reading the series. The mystery surrounding the villains and their origin plays out over the course of the series, and I don't want to give anything away. 5. Homunculi (Fullmetal Alchemist)
{Spoiler: Click to show} The Homunculi are artificial humans created using philosopher's stones. Each of them are named after and embody the seven deadly sins -- pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, and sloth. The Homunculi have numerous superhuman powers and are extremely difficult to kill. The only way they can be defeated is by expending all the power in their philosopher's stone before they can revive themselves. Needless to say, this leads to some epic fight scenes. I can't say too much about the Homunculi' agenda, but rest assured, their plans are truly sinister. I'd say they're the worst lot on my list, but I've got a couple of picks who are even badder.
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 20, 2022 9:55:09 GMT -5
5. The Brotherhood of Evil (Silver Age version, of course) "The League of Hate"* Damn, was Arnold Drake ahead of his time or what! I have always sung the outcast praises of the Doom Patrol, the Marvel heroes of 1960’s DC Comics. If you don’t know how fascinating a team and series Drake created, dig around here or elsewhere to find out; you’ll realize how different and unique the DP was. It’s no wonder that Drake’s gallery of villains for the Doom Patrol was just as imaginative and different from the norm; two of the DP’s nemeses have made my list, the Brotherhood of Evil and another to come (day still TBD). The Brotherhood (“the most powerful crime syndicate in the world”) would be memorable if only because of its membership, which numbers only one humanoid among its ranks. That would be Madame Rouge (who never wore red), is a French schoolteacher who combines the stretching powers of Elasti-Girl with the shape-changing talents of Plastic Man. Perhaps her shape-changing abilities, which are given to her courtesy her the genius and surgical skills of her compatriots, are a clue to her rather unsettled personality, which as the series evolved, saw her develop a Jekyll-Hyde personality. Worse yet for the DP, when she and the Chief fell in love, it caused many a Yoko moment for the always fractious team of mutants. The two other members were even less conventional: M’sieu Mallah, the machine-gun wielding super-intelligent gorilla who always came off as even more ticked off than Gorilla Grodd, who was one of the notably angry young apes in the DC ape-iary. M’sieu, a gorilla selected by a French scientist (was Drake a Francophone?) for its superior strength and athletic skill, was then given an IQ of 178 “through secret teaching and shock treatments.” It is Mallah who removes Brain’s brain from his never seen body and who follows brain’s instructions to perform the procedure that gives Mme. Rouge her super-powers, a scene chillingly depicted above by the great Bruno Premiani. And who was the French scientist who pulled off that feat? He is often known simply as “Brain,” sometimes “The Brain,” but not Mr. Brain, or Dr. Brain, or Frenchy the Brain. (Though perhaps his real name is Le Cerveau.) With Brain, what you see is what you get. He/it/she(?) is simply a brain “encased in liquid” whom Mallah and Rouge both serve without question. It matters not that his plots and schemes are always overly intricate; Brain seems to be crazy about MacGuffins, but they do make the stories tons of fun. I loved reading the Doom Patrol stories, which I’m betting were as outré, out there, absurd and meta as anything Grant Morrison ever wrote (he took the DP on is own long run of absurdity in a revival of the title), but with one charming plus: Drake wasn’t being self-consciously weird because someone else had laid the ground work decades before. He was simply writing stories and letting the characters take him for the ride, not vice versa. The B of E were the DP’s oddball rivals in what some might consider the oddball corner of the Silver Age DC Universe. By me, though, the two teams were both more believable as characters than most of the straight DC Universe. (And without spoiling anything, I would recommend reading the final issue of the run, Doom Patrol 121, which is justly celebrated for how beautifully the series was ended on the parts of the heroes, but also includes a unique twist on the fate of their arch-nemeses.) *Captain America Comics #49 (1945)
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Post by Myke Gee on Dec 20, 2022 12:10:37 GMT -5
5. MENTALLO AND THE FIXER
Marvin Flumm was one of the first S.H.I.E.L.D. agents to go bad. Using his mental powers under the alias of Mentallo, he turned on S.H.I.E.L.D. along with his partner in crime, the Fixer. A technological genius, Fixer pursued a life of crime as a partner to Mentallo and later a member of the Masters of Evil. He later became a founding member of the heroic Thunderbolts and despite hating the idea of being a hero and has remained a mainstay ever since. Creators: Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. First Appearance: STRANGE TALES VOL. 1, #141.***** When I first saw these two (don't ask me which comic it was), my first thought was "Who are these two cornballs?!!" I just thought were the corniest villains ever created. As time went on, for reasons that I cannot explain, they grew on me. Now when I see them, I get excited. I'm always thinking, "Oh wow!!! My two favorite dweebs!!!", LOL!!! So, yeah. I can't believe it, but Mentallo and the Fixer made my list!
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 20, 2022 12:33:17 GMT -5
5. Lord Hikiji and Lord Hebi Nice. I somehow failed to consider my favorite comic series.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 20, 2022 13:08:41 GMT -5
WOW! I didn't expect to see any Full Metal Alchemist in this thread! nice!
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 20, 2022 17:08:04 GMT -5
5. Lord Hikiji and Lord Hebi Nice. I somehow failed to consider my favorite comic series. I couldn't think of anything from Usagi and now I can't believe I missed these two.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2022 17:12:35 GMT -5
Nice. I somehow failed to consider my favorite comic series. I couldn't think of anything from Usagi and now I can't believe I missed these two. I had the idea I needed to look through Usagi, but then had no time to look through anything this year, so everything I picked had to come from that stuff which clearly stood out and was fixed in my memory or from stuff recently read that hadn't had the chance t be crowded out by other material yet. -M
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Post by commond on Dec 20, 2022 17:51:09 GMT -5
Chalk me up as another guy who should've voted for Usagi.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 20, 2022 18:34:55 GMT -5
5. Mr. Mxyzptlk & Bat-Mite
I said we'd see them again (though I said that about at least one other and then cut them) and here they are. Now, by all rights they probably shouldn't be. I hate the era of Batman from which Bat-Mite sprung. And I hate Superman. But, I have always had a soft spot for Mr. Mxyzptlk. I had his Mego. And I liked his first couple of appearances. And I absolutely adore the Bat-Mite episodes of Batman: The Brave & the Bold cartoon. So this team comes out of World's Funnest, which is absolutely the funniest and funnest Elseworlds book. A hilarious story by Evan Dorkin and an all-star artist line-up that find Mxy and Bat-Mite destroying the DC multiverse as nobody short of Fred Hembeck could.
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Post by Jeddak on Dec 20, 2022 18:52:12 GMT -5
First, let's all remember what the Grand Dictator said - 'Keep in mind that these are your personal favorites, not what you or anyone else considers the best' Or even, you know, good. At all. #5 - The Black Flame and her Weird Three Adventure Comics #400 The Black Flame was one of the few villains Supergirl could claim as her own. So to celebrate this anniversary issue, Mike Sekowsky said he was bringing the character back 'by popular demand.' And the blurb for the issue in DC's house ads said she would be joined by 3 Phantom Zone criminals. Let's see how that worked out, shall we? The Flame herself was an evil Kandorian, so she was a good match for Supergirl, at least in her first appearance. But she lost her powers to Gold K, which meant she had to rely on her wits and clever planning. None of which were on display in this turkey. So basically she was just a name and costume. The Inventor - well, he developed the cunning device they used to lure Supergirl to their trap. Namely, flashing a phone number on television too quickly for human eyes to detect. That was his only contribution to this elaborate scheme. The Toymaster - he built robots. Two were used to weaken Supergirl with kryptonite, then all the rest were just left laying around until she took telepathic control of them to save herself. Big help, guy. L. Finn - who, as Supergirl cleverly deduced from his name, is a leprechaun. When she escaped one trap, he was able to momentarily stop her with magic. And that's all he does. What a powerful, impressive bunch, eh? (And no, none of them were Kryptonian. Sekowsky didn't understand how the Phantom Zone worked.) And that's part of why this is one of my favorite comics. (I talked about it in more detail back in the 2014 version of this thread. Check that out at your peril.) It's so badly done, not just in terms of violating continuity, but internal coherence, logic, drama. It fails so very badly, these characters are so lame, so cliche, so unimaginative, so badly used in the story, that they become an object lesson in how not to write super-hero comics. So yes, this is (perversely) one of my favorite super-villain groupings. Try not to judge me too harshly.
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