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Post by Myke Gee on Dec 21, 2022 9:13:00 GMT -5
4. THE FATAL FIVE The Fatal Five is a 30th Century gang of five super-powered criminals. These individuals, consisting of Emerald Empress, Mano, The Persuader, Validus, and Tharok, were originally assembled by the Legion of Super-Heroes to help them destroy a Sun-Eater threatening Earth. Following the end of the Sun-Eater threat, the Fatal Five subsequently clashed several times with the Legion. Creators: Jim Shooter and Curt Swan. First Appearance: ADVENTURE COMICS #352 (1967).***** In the 70s, the Legion of Super-Heroes, along with the Teen Titans, was one of the first DC series that I liked. The idea of a super-team with over 30 members blew my 8 or 9-year-old mind. One of the first group of villains I saw them fight were the Fatal Five and they've been a favorite ever since. The character that intrigued me the most was Mano. His disintegrating touch was said to have destroyed an entire planet. Validus was the other one mainly because I liked the way he looked, lol!!! A great team of villains.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 21, 2022 9:44:28 GMT -5
4. Freedom ForceCall no team list-worthy till it dies. What makes Freedom Force remarkable in my eyes is mostly the way it met its end, although I would expect that since those days it was probably reformed, its members cloned, resurrected, cyborgized, made into gods, displaced through time, killed, resurrected again etc, etc. But let's pretend that comics aren't about constant recycling of concepts for a moment and concentrate on a satisfying conclusion. Originally, we had the new Brotherhood of Evil Mutants led by Mystique. The dastardly group caused a lot of grief to the X-Men and the world at large, until it was co-opted by the U.S. government as its own Marvel-flavoured Suicide Squad. As duly sanctioned government agents, members of the patriotically-named Freedom Force would help enforce the Nuremberg laws Mutant Registration Act and use their new status as an excuse to indulge their worst impulses and abuse the civilian population (as seen in an issue of Daredevil). They were essentially bad guys with a badge. In parallel, the X-Men had also faced a trio of WWII superpowered veterans (Crimson Commando, Stonewall and Super-Sabre) who ended up in jail for a reason I cant quite recall. They, too, were eventually integrated into Freedom Force. The relations within the group were interesting. People like Blob and Pyro were psychopaths, but got along with each other. The trio of old geezers were a tightly-knit group, whose murderous vigilante ways were at least tempered by a sense of self-righteousness and justification. Freedom Force was never a cohesive unit, but I liked the idea of the government having its own team of bad guys on a leash. Then came that final story which caused them to be included in this list. A story I particularly enjoyed because it made sense and shook the status quo. It was perfectly sensible for the U.S. government to use Freedom Force during the first Gulf War. And it would make sense that Saddam Hussein would have his own "people of mass destruction" (to use a term I first came across in The Ultimates) if they were available. And of course, the clash between the two groups should result in more than a bloody nose and bruised egos. The end of Freedom Force was told as back stories in a few X-annuals, culminating in X-Factor Annual #6. In a nutshell, things got brutal. Freedom Force suffered several casualties, and Avalanche (one of its members) carried a grievously wounded Crimson Commando away from the battle, callously abandoning his scummy partners Blob and Pyro. There was little honour among those thieves, and that's just as it should have been. I am convinced that this was meant to be the final chapter in the Freedom Force story. Mystique had moved on, Destiny was dead, the other surviving members were crippled or scattered, and although we fully expected people like Pyro and Blob to surface again eventually, the U.S. government had replaced Freedom Force by X-Factor as its mutant operatives (ones who weren't criminals, a decidedly good idea). That a cycle could come to a proper end is something rarely seen in superhero comics, and I really appreciated it.
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 21, 2022 9:53:37 GMT -5
9. Dr. Doom and every Marvel villain extant, in 1965, that is. Fantastic Four Annual 3 “The Forces of Evil”* I’m hard-pressed to think of any team-up like “Bedlam at the Baxter Building.” Nothing like it had ever appeared in the Silver Age, or the Golden Age for that matter, with the possible exception of the masters of Evil saga. Here were villains spanning the entire cosmos of one publisher attacking the good guys on Reed and Sue’s wedding bay, fer cripes’ sakes, and staging in a knock-down-drag-out Pier Six brawl, all masterminded by the hyper-insecure, ultra-needy, super-narcissistic, immensely immature Latverian string-puller, Dr. Doom. The closest thing to it at the time were probably the summer team-ups of the JLA and JSA, but as wonderful as those were, they were sedate, structured affairs, not the chaotic warfare between good and evil that marked the wedding of Sue and Reed. From the arresting cover, which sucked me into a swirling vortex depicting most of the population of Marvel Comics (And the bomb in the story is a frikkin’ vortex bomb! Retrospect is so cool) to the splash page (Doom simmering as he reads the Bugle’s big story), to the finish (Stan and Jack refused admittance by the SHIELD security staff), this story packed more into its meager 23 pages than entire series do today into 23 issues! It moved at what is often termed “a headlong pace,” but was actually just a hair under light speed. That pace was crucial to the story’s success because it enabled Stan to whisk readers over plot holes like he was skipping stones across a lake. And thanks to Kirby, the action never stopped, with every panel a new battle between good and evil. Even the “still-life” panels had an energy you just never saw in a John Forte Legion story. And there sure was action, courtesy the Marvel Universe’s already impressive Rogues Gallery! The Mole Man attacks from underground; Attuma launches an invasion from New York Harbor; Hydra tries to drive a “vortex bomb” into the Baxter Building. (Btw, why does an undersea warlord wear a Bottom donkey mask? Is he a Shakespeare fan?) And all this in addition to constant incursions by all kinds of villains from all over the place: Asgardians; mutants; a guy on a flying horse; Super-Apes led by the Red Ghost, who liked like the unholy spawn of Khrushchev and Larry Fine; a giant faceless, blockheaded android in tighty-whities gone gray (Shame on the Mad Thinker’s maid service!); the Unicorn and the Melter shooting blasts from head and chest; the Grey Gargoyle, a statue with a moustache(!); the Executioner, looking as crazy as Telly Savalas did in “The Dirty Dozen;” the Mandarin, with more rings than Bill Russell and wearing a bathing cap with big goggles. Hell, even the Super-Skrull drops in from distant space! Oh, yeah, and Kang pops in from the future! Of course, all these menaces and more have been whipped into their simultaneous lather by Dr. Doom’s emotion-charger. As a Marvel rookie, I was on sensory overload, because taking it to all these nefarious evildoers was a legion of good guys. I mean, you had you grown-up Nick Fury looking way cool with his eyepatch; the X-Men (what th’?! Who’s the dude with the huge feet coming right at me?) slamming hordes of Mole Man’s minions back into the earth; Dr. Strange materializing to dispatch the Super-Apes to a “distant netherworld;” Captain America, who at first glance still looks to me as if he has no right arm; some blur called Quicksilver; and the Watcher (Hey, he may be God or something… I thought this was a comic book!) and, hey, Holy Jeez, Marvel has a Green Arrow-guy, too! And what the h-e-double hockey sticks was up with page 20? (A Kirby photo-montage!) This page would never pop up in the middle of a Curt Swan Superman story, even if it featured a team-up of Bizarro and Mr. Mxyzptlk! Then the Watcher lets Reed choose one device from his collection of cool Kirby gimcrackery in the scene that somebody eventually stole for “Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.” Lucky for everybody that Reed chooses… wisely. (If I’d been a quicker thinker, I might have remembered this scene when I read Adventure 341 a few months later and saw how Brainiac 5 defeated Computo…) Of all this inspired craziness, though, the moment that still sticks with me is Daredevil – the BLIND guy! – atop the truck full of Hydra goons with the vortex bomb strapped to the flatbed and steering it right into the Attuma’s USMC (Under Sea Marine Corps) hordes and then leaping off at the last moment before blowing the water-born warlord and his troops into what seemed to be a serious lack of existence. “Wicked!” as we would have said – and did – in 1965. This story left me breathless each time I read it, and delighted, too, as I got a crash course in Marvel Universe 101. How many times did I pore over that cover trying to identify every one of the characters swimming in that maelstrom on the cover? How many times did I search the story to see if Kid Colt was somewhere in its pages? How many times did I wish DC Comics could have pulled off something this big, this new, this thrill-a-minute exciting? This really was a crossover compressed, a mini-series in miniature, an unbloated epic with a score of battles between heroes and villains culminating in a donnybrook ended by a hero’s cleverness. A couple of decades later, we would have Secret Wars and Age of Apocalypse, Armageddon and Invasion, Identity Crisis and House of M, ad infinitum. Dozens of issues linked by little more than the title of the “maxi-series,” “crossover event,” or whatever brand the marketing people gave it, the plots galumphing to their conclusions, action scenes rendered impotent by repetition as one-panel pin-ups, and all those world-shattering events reversed in the next “company-wide event” a month or two later. “Bedlam at the Baxter Building,” in 23 glorious, audacious, madcap, trailblazing pages was far, far less, but so much more. Plastic Man 29, 1955*
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 21, 2022 10:20:00 GMT -5
Now this is some serious thinking outside the box! Well done, 'bip!
Cei-U! I summon the huzzah!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 21, 2022 11:01:29 GMT -5
#4 - The Lizard and Stegron (Amazing Spider-Man 165-166) It's two reptiles for the price of one. This was MY period of Spider-Man and The Lizard was my second favorite Spidey villain at the time. So getting Lizzy along with a dinosaur themed villain (who I was not familiar with) was just long-underwear funnybook gold. To be fair, this is maybe not as much of a team-up as it seems from the cover of #166. It's more of a three-for-all battle royale. But it made a huge impression on my young psyche...so here we are.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 21, 2022 11:12:22 GMT -5
#4 - The Lizard and Stegron (Amazing Spider-Man 165-166) It's two reptiles for the price of one. This was MY period of Spider-Man and The Lizard was my second favorite Spidey villain at the time. So getting Lizzy along with a dinosaur themed villain (who I was not familiar with) was just long-underwear funnybook gold. I'll always "like" any post about Stegron. I might have to dig these couple of issues out over Xmas and give them a re-read.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 21, 2022 11:15:27 GMT -5
#4 - The Lizard and Stegron (Amazing Spider-Man 165-166) It's two reptiles for the price of one. This was MY period of Spider-Man and The Lizard was my second favorite Spidey villain at the time. So getting Lizzy along with a dinosaur themed villain (who I was not familiar with) was just long-underwear funnybook gold. I'll always "like" any post about Stegron. I might have to dig these couple of issues out over Xmas and give them a re-read. They are certainly appropriate to the season.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 21, 2022 11:25:36 GMT -5
#4 - The Lizard and Stegron (Amazing Spider-Man 165-166) Very special place in my heart for that issue, as it was one of the three comics I had during a hospital stay when I was 13.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 21, 2022 11:27:29 GMT -5
#4 - The Lizard and Stegron (Amazing Spider-Man 165-166) It's two reptiles for the price of one. This was MY period of Spider-Man and The Lizard was my second favorite Spidey villain at the time. So getting Lizzy along with a dinosaur themed villain (who I was not familiar with) was just long-underwear funnybook gold. To be fair, this is maybe not as much of a team-up as it seems from the cover of #166. It's more of a three-for-all battle royale. But it made a huge impression on my young psyche...so here we are. This one occurred to me as well, as did Spidey's big donnybrook with the Lizard and Iguana in the pages of Spectacular Spider-man, but much as I like both stories, I couldn't justify including them to myself because the Lizard was also fighting against the other reptile.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 21, 2022 11:42:12 GMT -5
#4 - The Lizard and Stegron (Amazing Spider-Man 165-166) It's two reptiles for the price of one. This was MY period of Spider-Man and The Lizard was my second favorite Spidey villain at the time. So getting Lizzy along with a dinosaur themed villain (who I was not familiar with) was just long-underwear funnybook gold. To be fair, this is maybe not as much of a team-up as it seems from the cover of #166. It's more of a three-for-all battle royale. But it made a huge impression on my young psyche...so here we are. This one occurred to me as well, as did Spidey's big donnybrook with the Lizard and Iguana in the pages of Spectacular Spider-man, but much as I like both stories, I couldn't justify including them to myself because the Lizard was also fighting against the other reptile. Yeah. I know it was kind of a cheat. But I had to include it. I'll take the heat. Just like Stegron takes the heat, but not the cold.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 21, 2022 13:01:10 GMT -5
Now this is some serious thinking outside the box! Well done, 'bip!
Cei-U! I summon the huzzah!
Thanks. I didn't think this would be on anyone's radar. Just felt like these ghouls deserved a spot. My next 3 were locked down on my list. Another outside the box selection is coming soon....
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 21, 2022 14:13:54 GMT -5
4. The GatherersProctor, Magdalene, Swordsman, Coal Tiger, Vision, Cassandra, Tabula Rasa, Sloth, Jocasta, Rik, Sliver, Tarkas, Korg Avengers #343, Marvel, 1991 I do not care what anybody else thinks. The Gatherers Saga by Bob Harras and Steve Epting remains one of my all-time favorite superhero arcs. If you want to read it yourself: Avengers #343-344, 348-349,356-363,(367), (370-371), 372-375. Parenthetical issues have some relevance, but aren't part of the main arc or essential. Yes, I know those numbers off the top of my head. I'll leave the mystery for those who haven't had it spoiled. I was excited to be able to read along as it came out and see the clues. How is Swordsman alive? Who is Marissa Darrow? Did Sersi murder that man? I'll note the character of Coal Tiger is a cool nod to Marvel history.
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Post by Rob Allen on Dec 21, 2022 14:39:37 GMT -5
4. The Masters of Evil - Avengers #6 My first issue of Avengers, and one of my first super-villain teams. A true Marvel Age classic. The cover's been posted, so here's the splash page, Check out the note in the upper left - "We have a hunch you'll want to save it as a collector's item for a long, long time!" Yes, Stan, I did!
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 21, 2022 18:47:48 GMT -5
On the Ninth day there was... The Beagle Boys, Magica DeSpell, and Flintheart GlomgoldThe Adventurous Uncle Scrooge McDuck #2 1998, Gladstone I wish I could say I read this right off the rack when it came out, but I'm a Johnny Come Lately when it comes to the Duck books, only having "discovered" them a few years back when shaxper did a fantastic write up on them during one of the Classic Comics Christmases(I can't remember which one). I grew up loving the Uncle Scrooge cartoons, especially Ducktales, but never got into the comics and this 50th anniversary issue has been my favorite so far as it really acts for a great primer into the world of the Ducks as it features the biggest villains and they each have their own moments to shine as they plot against Uncle Scrooge. That's my favorite part of this event really, getting to see what everyone's favorites are and finding new books to read.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 22, 2022 11:14:20 GMT -5
In which I make comments on the proceedings to no great purpose. Space Phantom/ Grim Reaper - Honestly it's Space Phantom who looks grim. Why the long face, Space? Cosmic Anti-Superman Gang - Friends don't let friends read Superman funnybooks. Viper and Silver Samurai - Another issue of MTU I missed. I think I've seen these folks but they don't mean much to me. The Mummy and the Mastermind - Sounds like the title of a pulp story. Mummies always seem to get a bad rap. The Headmen - Is this the first time we're seeing The Headmen? I don't know. My memory is swiss cheese. They almost made my list. Just great Gerber goofiness. Colossal Titan, Armored Titan and Female Titan - A titanic team. When it comes to Manga I got nuthin'. Boss Thorne and Mayor Hill - Brilliant. No. That's it. Brilliant choice. Unfortunately it's up against... The Ghostly Trio - And DubipR wins the interwebs for the day. Incredible choice. These guys were the only reason to read Casper. Thoth-Amon, et. al. - I keep planning to read the entire Howard comics but never seem to get around to it. I never did read King Conan at all. Freedom Force - I stopped reading X-Men in 1981. So...I got nuthin. The Gatherers - What are they gathering? Are they gathering up pretty useless characters? Because the presence of Swordsman and Jocasta would lead me to believe that. The Beagle Boys, Magica DeSpell, and Flintheart Glomgold - This group was on my list for a LONG time. Until I decided to go with just the Beagles because Barks is still the King of Ducks (Rosa is the Crown Prince). But they really did almost show up again one slot higher.
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