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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 5, 2024 19:54:34 GMT -5
Avengers/Invaders #3 Fish Fight! Creative Team: Same bunch Synopsis: Namor fights his future self...and vice versa. Bucky breaksCap of of stir...Jim Hammond talks to LMDs, the soldier talks to his future self, pointless fighting occurs, Dr Strange and the New Avengers meet Spider-Woman, clandestinely and try to isolate the time paradox and send the Invaders back to the 40s. Thoughts: Between poor decompressed storytelling and lack of plot, I am thoroughly bored with this. If the next issue sucks, then I am going into summary mode.
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 11, 2024 14:58:39 GMT -5
Avengers/Invaders #4 Synopsis: The fight and bite! They fight and bite and fight! Fight, fight fight! Bite, bite, bite! The Invaders and Avengers Show! Thoughts: Nothing important happens within the plot until the last panel. The bulk is just more gratuitous fighting between the Invaders and the Mighty Avengers and SHIELD LMDs. The New Avengers turn up to try to rescue the Invaders and get them back to their time (same goal as Stark's bunch, really) and they spend most of their time smacking each other around. Two plot point emerge: the past is already changing, with Churchill's death and a defeat of the Allies (not that simple, folks) and then Captain Puerto Rico....Bucky, turns up and meets up with his 1940s self and begins to tell him things to alter his future. The whole thing, like Civil War, requires Tony Stark and his bunch to act unreasonably and out of character and the time paradox thing is done to death. On top of the soldier who came through and met his older self, now Bucky meets his later self, who seems to want to either prevent his becoming the Winter Soldier or Cap's "death" or both. The Road to Hell and all that. It's mostly an over-wrought fight, with no real strategy and few consequences, since the body parts that rain down from the Helicarrier to the Mall below, are just components of artificial Life Model Decoys, though the Torch has some feelings on that subject. At 1/3 of the way through this, I am deeply underwhelmed, which has been par for the course for Ross and Krueger, in my experience. Your mileage may vary. As I said before, I find they have good ideas but it falters in the execution and tends to be on the dull side. This really feels stretched out to make it 12 issues, as we have had 4 issues of pointless and inconclusive fights and about 2 panels per issue of real plot development. The rest is some character standing around telling us things we already know. At this point, I am bored and put off by this mini-series and the only reason I haven't written it off is because I want to at least see the bits in the past, with the New Avengers masquerading as C-list Timely heroes. I have a feeling it is cooler in Ross' paintings than it is in the actual story. If only Kurt Busiek were writing this.
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 17, 2024 14:34:42 GMT -5
Avengers/Invaders #5-12
I give up!
I just can't get into this series; it is ridiculously stretched beyond its plot, it is filled with pointless fight scenes to pad things out, requires characters to act out of plot convenience, and throws everything into the mix without ever doing any of it well.
Torch leads an uprising of LMDs, only to discover he has been duped and the real leader is Ultron. They figure out the Cosmic Cube is behind things and it has fallen into the hands of the Red Skull, when they go back to the past, with him conquering America and turning New York into Berlin West, complete with zeppelins, because the Nazis winning somehow brings back airships. Cap contests control with him, as the Cube gains sentience and responds to Cap's virtues and things return to the status quo. During the passage back in time, the Avengers are disguised as D-list Timely heroes, like Electron, The Black Widow, the Thunderer, and Captain Terror, but mostly make jokes about the names and costumes. The Nazi super-soldiers are also brought in and it is more pointless fighting and stuff about heroes. More 9/11 metaphors, WW2 hero worship and such.
And Toro is returned to life, at the end.
Been there, done that, skipped buying the over-priced t-shirt.
That leads into the Torch mini-series, with Toro meeting The Mad Thinker and I just can't be bothered to continue any further.
Ed Brubaker understood how to tell new stories, with a nostalgia gloss and still be true to the characters. This is just a rehash of old plotlines and pretty Alex Ross covers and not much substance, which is how I felt about Earth X and when I tried to read that Justice League thing, with the Legion of Doom. Looks great in an art book, doesn't tell much of a story.
So, I am putting this thread to bed, before I waste any more time being disappointed. I loved what Roy Thomas did with the Invaders; but, every time someone tries to go to that well, it is either a post-modern mess, or just a greatest hits thing, or just an excuse to make death meaningless in comic book stories, by reviving yet another character. Marvel's Pearly Gates must have a revolving door.
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