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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 2, 2023 20:47:29 GMT -5
Furthermore, from watching the movie on YouTube, I now see that the chained women are also under some sort of hypnosis/mental command, just like in O'Neil's story. So the chains are not necessary, just theater. This Fu Manchu guy seems to be a quite kinky one! It's in the pulp villain code.... Section 8, paragraph 4, subsection B: Female prisoners-All female prisoners must either be chained or bound, preferably in some clothing disarray, with no thought to amenities or anything other than combining the images of "headlights" and bondage. Jailers will always be fat, loathsome toads, with long tongues and any female staff will be very touchy-feely with prisoners. All activities (see Section 9: torture) must involve some form of insect, arachnid or reptile (or any combination) and any whipping or flogging must occur in a well lit area. Food must appear like sludge and be lacking in condiments. All deathtraps must be overly complex to allow hero ample opportunity for rescue (these guys are kind of dim and need you to spell things out for them and hand them a plan). Self-destruct systems must be ridiculously well marked and have no safety locks, for ease of activation. Any cut-off switches must be located behind elaborate deathtraps (see Spinning Blades) and should have independent power sources, preferably renewable (we're evil, but help save mother Earth, for conquest) All dungeon staff must be attired in either leather or latex and all facilities should be well ventilated, because that stuff doesn't breathe well. Female staff shall never be shod in less than 5 inch heels and don't skimp on the corsets or capes. Enjoyment of inflicting torture and abuse is a plus; but is not a pre-requisite for dungeon keeps, though watch out for "switches," as they will too often fall for a prisoner's ruse and end up in chains or ropes, themselves and....well, you get the picture. Throne rooms shall be adorned with no less than 3 and no more than 10 slaves, unless seating requirements dictate (see Furniture, Use of slaves as....) Traitorous and even kinkier daughters should always occupy a companion throne, staged at least 3 levels lower than the villain throne. Ensure said daughter's "playroom" is kept well away from dungeon areas, to prevent jealousy. Eunuchs highly recommended for all Daughter areas, for obvious reasons (see Heirs, Hidden) Columns are a plus, especially those that can retain up to three prisoners, via linkage. Decadent imagery is a must and Dave's Kama Sutra Decorator's Guide is highly recommended for ideas. Lovecraftian squid gods also do wonders for a room. Make sure that the door to the secret exit from the dungeon is kept well maintained for use at a moment's notice. Above all, have fun! Villainy has many earthly rewards if you attend to the Damsel component of the business.
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Post by tarkintino on Oct 4, 2023 8:00:15 GMT -5
Mentioned days ago, the Diana phase saw limited merchandising presence, even as this era lasted until February of 1973, however, in 1970, the Topps Chewing Gum company, well-known for their endless sports and media-based trading cards, partnered with DC to produce Comic Cover Stickers, which contained a sheet of four, one-inch comic covers on one backing sheet, along with larger, single cover reproductions scaled to the backing sheet. Arguably one of the most rare of DC collectibles, this set featured no less than three Wonder Woman covers from the Diana era--issues 180 - 182:
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 5, 2023 10:21:34 GMT -5
So many 1960s secret agent men to keep straight! ....
The Last of the Secret Agents? is pretty bad, but I love it anyway. However, I don’t love it enough that I watch it more than once every 10 years.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 5, 2023 12:20:31 GMT -5
But no one is harmed; in fact, they are all freed, so they beat up the Cheetah gang. The Cheetah’s gang are also known as her zebra girls. In the second story in Wonder Woman #6, the Cheetah has bullied them or brain-washed them into acting as her servants and her agents, and dresses them as zebras because in the wild, a zebra is the “natural prey” of the cheetah. They are almost always colored wrong. I have a digital copy of WW #6 (it’s one of my favorite comics ever) from Comixology and though they are clearly called “zebra girls,” they are colored orange with black stripes. As if it would be difficult to find a colorist who enjoys reading Golden Age Wonder Woman and could be bothered to read the comic in order to do the job correctly.
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Post by rberman on Oct 6, 2023 7:29:55 GMT -5
Wonder Woman #201 “The Fist of Flame” (August 1972) Theme: Raiders of the lost jewel Story and Editing: Denny O'Neil Art: Dick Giordano Dramatis PersonaeDiana Prince, globetrotting treasure hunter I Ching, blind man, martial arts mentor Jonny Double, absent private investigator Catwoman, professional thief Herby and Lovey-puss proud new boutique owners The Story: Diana and I Ching visit Jonny Double’s office, where they are attacked by a pair of Tibetan assassins who commit suicide after losing the battle. Does I Ching know what their dying words “Fist of Flame” mean? Of course he does! He knows everything convenient. The Fist is a giant ruby somewhere in Tibet. Diana isn’t so sure she wants to go comb the Himalayas, but someone leaves a note on her pillow to convince her. She finds it while wearing her sheer, form-fitting negligee. Diana sells her boutique (which was also her home, remember) so she can afford two plane tickets to Tibet. So much for that “working woman in the big city” trope! A native guide leads Diana and I Ching high into the Himalayas and then vanishes. Happily, they stumble into a cave which turns out to be a tunnel taking them right to the Lost Civilization they were hoping to find. Alas, this Hidden Tropical Valley lacks the usual dinosaurs. Diana uses a grappling hook to scale a cliff without I Ching, then faces a huge swordsman. She carries on a constant internal monologue describing her actions. Diana claims the Fist of Flame as her prize, but its magic powers disable her. Suddenly she suffers a kick in the head from Catwoman, who claims the gem but then finds herself similarly incapacitated. Note that Catwoman has slitlike eyes. The two women are suspended by ropes over a fire pit and forced to swordfight to the death. Catwoman is all too happy to compete on those terms, but Diana ensures that both of them survive. Rescuing I Ching, the two women grab the ruby (safely, this time). They run away shouting last-minute exposition about Jonny Double and Lu Shan, then fall into a dimensional vortex and awaken in Fritz Lieber’s land of Nehwon… My Two Cents: The bulk of this story is pure 1930s pulp adventure: a lush valley in the snow-capped mountains, a hidden civilization, a statue with a cursed gem, etc. We’re a long way from Sekowsky’s “ripped from the headlines” urban stories, which evidently were not setting the sales figures ablaze. Before handing the series to incoming writer Samuel Delaney, O’Neil clears the floor, getting rid of Diana’s boutique that never made sense. Cathy Perkins is not even mentioned; did she get tossed out on her ear? Herby looks kind of sinister, but his money is good, so Diana doesn't ask any questions. Catwoman was on a long hiatus after Detective Comics #211 (1954). But after Julie Newmar portrayed her memorably on the 1966 Batman TV show, DC brought her back to comics as well, beginning in Lois Lane #70, of all places. You wouldn’t think she’d pose much of a challenge to Superman, but by the end of the issue she’s hypnotized Lois to be her double, persuaded Superman to kiss her, and then changed him into a house cat in a kryptonite cage. Aren’t comic books supposed to avoid real world name brand trademarks? Yet, behold this Pan American jet which Diana and I Ching ride to Asia. The price is only 20 cents, but the page count is also only 24 pages; no more reprint back-up story. A half page text block near the back of the issue apologizes for the increasing costs that made these measures necessary. We all know how rapidly prices rose in the next 15 years as circulation plummeted and per-unit costs skyrocketed. Fashion Plate: Diana is still in all white of course, but the “W” buckle is gone. Diana wears sensible boots, while Catwoman is fighting in tall heels. Check the difference below. Catwoman’s costume has been redesigned since her Lois Lane appearance, in which she still wore the villainous colors of purple and green but instead of a long skirt had tights and buccaneer boots. She has tights here too, blue instead of purple, with a bustier and opera gloves. Sexual Politics: The first issue of Ms. magazine was released in summer 1972: “Wonder Woman for President!” Recall that it was an election year. Editor/founder Gloria Steinem had Dick Giordano provide the cover, showing Silver Age Wonder Woman as the ideal woman, astride a city which was half modern paradise and half war-pocked hellhole. Apparently the magazine interior contained an article about Diana, but I have not been able to scrounge up the text online. However, Steinem did tell Vanity Fair a few years ago: Hopefully we’ve seen in this thread that, despite some sour notes along the way, on the whole Sekowsky’s resolute Diana was in fact a substantial improvement on the crying, lovelorn Wonder Woman that preceded her. Wonder Woman made four other appearances on the cover of Ms. over the years. Despite publication for decades under different owners, the magazine has generally operated at a loss. As for the new creative team, O’Neil peppers the dialogue with feminist slogans decrying male chauvinism. But what his words give, Giordano’s repeated upskirt cheesecake poses take away. I do like that dagger flying right at the reader in this panel, though. Looks sharp! Bond Girl: Diana and Catwoman are suspended above the flaming pit in harnesses attached to their waists. Also note that Giordano frequently puts the viewer behind and below Diana, so that her derriere is front and center. Everbody was Kung Fu fighting: In the Hidden Valley, our heroes gallantly attack a bunch of Tibetan civilians in a way that is “sudden yet merciful, for such is the skill of Diana and I Ching that they can disable without hurting!” Riiiight…. Body Count: None; Catwoman’s presence has this story feeling more Silver Age than Bronze. Disable without hurting; that's the ticket... Lettercol: Denny O’Neil reports receiving “hundreds” of letters thanking him for taking the series. Alan Chasin hasn’t even opened issue #199 yet but felt the urge to gush over Jeff Jones’ striking headsman cover. But Mrs. Elizabeth Bleu finds O’Neil’s version of feminism insufferable. “Your male chauvinism is showing.”
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Post by zaku on Oct 6, 2023 11:53:41 GMT -5
Sexual Politics: The first issue of Ms. magazine was released in summer 1972: “Wonder Woman for President!” Recall that it was an election year. Editor/founder Gloria Steinem had Dick Giordano provide the cover, showing Silver Age Wonder Woman as the ideal woman, astride a city which was half modern paradise and half war-pocked hellhole. Apparently the magazine interior contained an article about Diana, but I have not been able to scrounge up the text online. Flexing my google-fu Wonder Woman Revisited by Joanne Edgar
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Post by zaku on Oct 6, 2023 12:04:21 GMT -5
By the way, it seems to me that Joanne Edgar was more attached to the idea of Wonder Woman than the stories themselves. She dismisses every thing published after Marston's death. Removing her power was just adding insult to injury. And really, I never heard anyone saying good things about Silver Age Wonder Woman (Well, actually I've basically never heard good things about any phase of Wonder Woman between the death of her creator and Crisis - at most a few individual stories are said to be "ok").
I wonder if it's just hindsight or something shared with people at the time. I mean, someone bought the magazine, so actually readers enjoyed it, I think..?
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Post by MDG on Oct 6, 2023 13:14:47 GMT -5
Sexual Politics: The first issue of Ms. magazine was released in summer 1972: “Wonder Woman for President!” Recall that it was an election year. Editor/founder Gloria Steinem had Dick Giordano provide the cover, showing Silver Age Wonder Woman as the ideal woman, astride a city which was half modern paradise and half war-pocked hellhole. Apparently the magazine interior contained an article about Diana, but I have not been able to scrounge up the text online. However, Steinem did tell Vanity Fair a few years ago: Steinhem may have hired Giordano, but the cover was drawn by Murphy Anderson. his signature is visible on the right edge of the cover. between WW's boot and the tank.
(One of Steinhem's early magazine jobs was as Assistant Editor for Harvey Kurtzman on Help!)
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Oct 6, 2023 13:23:24 GMT -5
By the way, it seems to me that Joanne Edgar was more attached to the idea of Wonder Woman than the stories themselves. She dismisses every thing published after Marston's death. Removing her power was just adding insult to injury. And really, I never heard anyone saying good things about Silver Age Wonder Woman (Well, actually I've basically never heard good things about any phase of Wonder Woman between the death of her creator and Crisis - at most a few individual stories are said to be "ok"). I wonder if it's just hindsight or something shared with people at the time. I mean, someone bought the magazine, so actually readers enjoyed it, I think..? Based on a lot of my reading, there were times when very few people bought the magazine, at least compared to other comics that didn’t get cancelled (and some that were). DC, for a long time, didn’t own Wonder Woman outright and had reasons to publish the book even with poor sales do to contractual issues with Marston and his estate. (This is my recollection. I’m willing to be corrected.) The character was also a pretty good licensing opportunity. It’s easier to license Wonder Woman Underoos and pencil cases of there’s an existing funnybook, even if it doesn’t sell well.
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Post by Chris on Oct 6, 2023 14:40:42 GMT -5
By the way, it seems to me that Joanne Edgar was more attached to the idea of Wonder Woman than the stories themselves. She dismisses every thing published after Marston's death. Removing her power was just adding insult to injury. And really, I never heard anyone saying good things about Silver Age Wonder Woman (Well, actually I've basically never heard good things about any phase of Wonder Woman between the death of her creator and Crisis - at most a few individual stories are said to be "ok"). I wonder if it's just hindsight or something shared with people at the time. I mean, someone bought the magazine, so actually readers enjoyed it, I think..? Based on a lot of my reading, there were times when very few people bought the magazine, at least compared to other comics that didn’t get cancelled (and some that were). DC, for a long time, didn’t own Wonder Woman outright and had reasons to publish the book even with poor sales do to contractual issues with Marston and his estate. (This is my recollection. I’m willing to be corrected.) The character was also a pretty good licensing opportunity. It’s easier to license Wonder Woman Underoos and pencil cases of there’s an existing funnybook, even if it doesn’t sell well. According to this, the character had to be published at least 4 times per year in a book with "Wonder Woman" in the title or the rights would revert to Marston's estate. Actual sales figures didn't matter as long as DC kept the IP which made them bundles of money in other venues. screenrant.com/legend-wonder-woman-kurt-busiek-failed-rights-comic/
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Post by MWGallaher on Oct 6, 2023 15:07:10 GMT -5
It sounds like the legend about Steinem and this issue putting pressure on DC to go back to basics isn't quite accurate. According to the article in Ms. #1, DC already intended to do so, with Dorothy Woolfolk at the helm. Would even a famous figure like Steinem backed by a magazine that hadn't yet seen print be able to coerce DC's into such a decision? And wait, was Dick Giordano even an editor at the time, or had he gone back to the drawing table? He certainly wasn't in charge of all their super-heroes!
The fact that Woolfolk was slated to take over as editor may explain Robert Kanigher's allusions to her when he ends up editing and writing the book instead of Woolfolk...
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 6, 2023 15:14:05 GMT -5
I've always heard that DC didn't care so much about sales as it did about the merchandising that went along with the WW brand.
However, what revenue did that earn for them in the 50s and 60s? To begin with, there were so few comics-related tie-ins compared to the deluge later on, and what there was was not Wonder Woman-oriented. Superman and Batman, yes, and especially during Batmania, but WW? maybe a Ben Cooper Halloween costume or one of a few stickers in a package with gum?
Once the Linda Carter show debuted, you had merchandise, but that was a helluva dry spell post-Golden Age for DC to ride out publishing a loss leader.
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Post by MDG on Oct 6, 2023 20:18:25 GMT -5
I've always heard that DC didn't care so much about sales as it did about the merchandising that went along with the WW brand. However, what revenue did that earn for them in the 50s and 60s? To begin with, there were so few comics-related tie-ins compared to the deluge later on, and what there was was not Wonder Woman-oriented. Superman and Batman, yes, and especially during Batmania, but WW? maybe a Ben Cooper Halloween costume or one of a few stickers in a package with gum? Once the Linda Carter show debuted, you had merchandise, but that was a helluva dry spell post-Golden Age for DC to ride out publishing a loss leader. There were a couple of WW figures in the context of JLA sets, and in 1967, Ideal, the same company that produced Captain Action, launched the Super Queens line, so there was at least some interest in the character and in marketing comic character toys to girls.
These are all pretty rare, but I don't know if that's because they never caught on or if they never got a full launch (e.g., with an appearance in the Sears or Montgomery Ward xmas catalog).
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 6, 2023 22:28:42 GMT -5
You did have a pilot, for a tv series, with Greenway, the people doing batman, but it never went beyond a short test reel (similar to Batgirl).
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 6, 2023 22:48:46 GMT -5
I always hated that Catwoman revamp costume. The green take on the tv costume wasn't any better (I assume green because of the reproduction of black on newsprint comics). The hidden land is James Hilton, of course, though Tibet isn't exactly known, even in fiction, for its assassins. Mountaineering, yes. Should have had ninja yeti. Matt Wagner later revisted the idea of the rope-suspended fighting, in his Dark Horse Presents feature, The Aerialist..... If you pay close attention, you'll notice they were anchored differently. Back in the early 90s, the Global Wrestling Federation promotion, featured weekday afternoons, on ESPN, tried a bungee cord match, the result was hilariously bad. The "match, was fought in a small lift cage, with no real camera angles, in bad night lighting, and the object was to knock the opponent off the platform, to freefall, before the bungee cord pulled them up. Not quite the same as Max Rockatansky vs the Blaster, in the Thunderdome....
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