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Post by Ricky Jackson on Dec 13, 2023 20:02:42 GMT -5
Was a big Mad collector as a kid in the 80s. Roughly 1986-1991, ending around the time of Gulf War gags. Loved Don Martin and Al Jaffee especially. I also had a lot of Cracked from that era, I think originally following Don Martin over, but soon falling in love with John Severin TV and movie parodies (there wasn't much else!). I've been going through the original issues on DC Infinite, and I scored some choice early-70s issues at a vintage market last summer, including the Godfather and Clockwork Orange covers, plus the infamous middle finger cover
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Post by jason on Dec 14, 2023 1:00:40 GMT -5
Speaking of Don Martin, has anyone ever seen his early Mad work? A lot darker than the goofy sound effect work (ie, the cartoon where a guy feeds pigeons arsenic-laded popcorn).
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Post by berkley on Dec 14, 2023 2:04:22 GMT -5
Was a big Mad collector as a kid in the 80s. Roughly 1986-1991, ending around the time of Gulf War gags. Loved Don Martin and Al Jaffee especially. I also had a lot of Cracked from that era, I think originally following Don Martin over, but soon falling in love with John Severin TV and movie parodies (there wasn't much else!). I've been going through the original issues on DC Infinite, and I scored some choice early-70s issues at a vintage market last summer, including the Godfather and Clockwork Orange covers, plus the infamous middle finger cover
I didn't see as much of Cracked as I did MAD but from what I did read they didn't seem all that far behind in quality, at least some of the time - and I don't think MAD had any single artist I liked as much as I did John Severin. But it felt like there was something about MAD as a whole, a little extra something special, whether that was the cachet of the brand name or what, I'm not sure.
I tried one issue of Sick and found it pretty dismal, not in the same league whatsoever. Never was tempted to give it another look.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 14, 2023 6:32:01 GMT -5
I'm a really big MAD magazine fan. In fact, I was reading an old late '60s issue just last night! I first encountered MAD in the early '80s at age 11 or so, when my best friend was gifted a huge box of back issues stretching from the mid-70s to the early '80s by a kindly uncle. We loved those issues and thought they were absolutely hilarious. We started to buy MAD off of the newsagents shelves soon after, around early 1984 or so, I guess. I also began picking up secondhand copies of the MAD paperback books, which reprinted older stuff from the '50s and '60s. My favourite parts of the magazine were usually the movie or TV satires drawn by Mort Drucker or Angelo Torres, the "Lighter Side of..." strips by Dave Berg, Al Jaffee's "Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions", and the Spy Vs. Spy strip. As far as I'm concerned, the magazine's heyday was a roughly 20 year period from the mid-60s through to the mid-80s. Myself, I was still reading in it well into the early 90s, but it's hard not to feel that it was something of a spent force by then. In a lot of ways, The Simpsons had taken over the job of subverting America and the UK's impressionable youth with hilarious wit, needle sharp satire and well-founded cynicism by then. I've spoken a number of times in this forum about how, as I've gotten older, I've become increasingly aware of how encountering MAD as a pre-teen has shaped my character, personality, political views and general distrust of authority as an adult. It was potent stuff for a child! EDIT: The first issue I bought new from the newsagent's shop was the British issue #265...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 7:47:37 GMT -5
I show people this cover and they can't believe it's from 1957.
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Post by MDG on Dec 14, 2023 9:58:31 GMT -5
I show people this cover and they can't believe it's from 1957.
Why can't they? (It's a great cover, BTW)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 10:32:50 GMT -5
I show people this cover and they can't believe it's from 1957.
Why can't they? (It's a great cover, BTW)
At first glance, they see the MAD banner and Alfred and think it's something closer to the 80s or 90s because the formats look so similar. And it also looks quite new as far as condition goes!
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Post by Rob Allen on Dec 14, 2023 11:07:21 GMT -5
Sick was decent when Bob Powell was the art director for a couple of years just before he started working for Marvel. No idea how it hung on for another decade after that.
Here's a song I memorized from Mad sometime in the 60s:
It's a grand old smog It's a low-lying smog You can tell by the smell and the pall
Though it clouds the skies And burns our eyes It means there's employment for all
For it comes, you see From some great factory Where there's never an idle cog
So don't give up Our way of life And give thanks for that grand old smog
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Post by MDG on Dec 14, 2023 11:14:56 GMT -5
Why can't they? (It's a great cover, BTW)
At first glance, they see the MAD banner and Alfred and think it's something closer to the 80s or 90s because the formats look so similar. And it also looks quite new as far as condition goes!
I find that odd, since I'd think 75% of the imagery on it would be unfamiliar to most folks born after '75 or so.
It always makes me think of this Al Dorne illustration from '53. ( And Arthur Godfrey appears in both!)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 13:39:47 GMT -5
I find that odd, since I'd think 75% of the imagery on it would be unfamiliar to most folks born after '75 or so.
It always makes me think of this Al Dorne illustration from '53. ( And Arthur Godfrey appears in both!)
Did Al do any Golden Age covers? That rendering is great!
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Post by Hoosier X on Dec 14, 2023 20:41:01 GMT -5
My first exposure to MAD that I remember was when I was visiting my aunt and I discovered the MAD paperback “MAD Strikes Back” in her bookcase. It reprinted a bunch of great stories from the first two or three years when it was a comic book. I was about 7 I think. A lot of it was pretty damn funny even if I didn’t really know what they were parodying that well. But I had seen King Kong by then, more than once, and I thought Ping Pong was one of the funniest things I’d ever seen!
Within two or three years, I was reading MAD pretty regularly. One of the earliest issues that I bought had the Exorcist parody, with the Alfred E Newman barf bag on the cover. And I remember parodies of Love Story, Easy Rider and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid from the Super Specials.
So much Watergate material! I think I learned about Watergate by asking questions and reading the newspaper a lot more just to help me figure out the Watergate material in MAD.
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Post by jason on Feb 1, 2024 21:33:56 GMT -5
The one I'd want to be with if I'm stranded on a desert island, Mort Drucker's best work collected over some 50ish years.
I LOVE Drucker, but I found the movie parodies "meh" as a kid. I appreciate them more now, but back then, they required too much attention span to sustain interest over so many pages... for me, anyway. I always preferred the shorter forms of parody or silliness, such as Al Jaffee, Don Martin, Sergio, and all the great ads. Nowadays, I can really appreciate Drucker and Torres' parodies, and uncanny caricature talents. When you can do a dead-on caricature of the back of someone's head, you know you have talent! Now, I need to hunt down that book. The best part of Mort and Angelo's stuff is that they made sure to draw the main characters close to the actors, but would have fun and get goofier with background characters or background gags. Kind of made an interesting contrast.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 2, 2024 7:31:34 GMT -5
I think Mort Drucker might make my Mount Rushmore.
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Post by tarkintino on Feb 2, 2024 15:43:49 GMT -5
The best part of Mort and Angelo's stuff is that they made sure to draw the main characters close to the actors, but would have fun and get goofier with background characters or background gags. Kind of made an interesting contrast. Drucker was such a master of the caricature, and--in accordance with the scripts--knew how to capture reactions just as well as the performers his work was based on, and his having characters break the fourth wall right at some insane moment was flawless humor illustration at work.
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 2, 2024 16:26:19 GMT -5
Here's one I've never forgotten, Rob Allen(to the tune of "Moon River") Chopped liver, onions on the side My social life has died From you... My friends shun me, they out-run me The smell of my breath, is slow death, sad but true My odor's twice as bad as beer, And people who drink beer agree I know that my breath will not end Always I’ll offend, my halitosis friends Chopped liver, in me.
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