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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 15, 2023 10:28:22 GMT -5
Only you rags.  |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 15, 2023 10:30:57 GMT -5
On the third day of Christmas the funnybooks spun-off for me, a misogynist narcissistic little boy who sometimes acts like he's three.  Thomas Tompkins, aka Tubby. Young master Tompkins originally appeared as a side character in Marge's Little Lulu panel cartoon. He followed her to the comics before being spun off in to his own title in 1952 with writing by the great John Stanley. Tubby is many things. But he is not woke. For all that Lulu is his best friend and tends to look out for him, Tubby is an unabashed believer in male superiority. Tubby is completely self-involved. He is convinced he is a Man's Man, but frequently ends up bawling to his mommy. And is utterly obsessed with food. All of this is funny, because Tubby is a little kid and Stanley crafts narratives that use these foibles to tell entertaining and very humorous stories. And Tubby is certainly inventive. His exploits as The Spider, going after his arch-foe Mr. Moffitt (Lulu's father) are usually hilarious. We laugh off his problems because he's a little kid living in a kid world. If he were an adult, half of us would be appalled. The other half would vote for him for higher office.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2023 12:06:49 GMT -5
Only you rags. Might only score a few likes for that one lol.... |
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 15, 2023 12:35:26 GMT -5
Only you rags. Might only score a few likes for that one lol.... The more obscure the better.  |
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 15, 2023 15:56:12 GMT -5
10. Dreadstar
Dreadstar #1-39, 1982-88, by Jim Starlin et al  The Metamorphosis Odyssey was Jim Starlin's epic serialized (appropriately) in Epic Illustrated. It concerned the desperate actions of a dying race losing a centuries-old intergalactic war. The mad plan involved finding three beings who could become the seed of a better galaxy, and one warrior who could protect them. We meet this warrior in the sixth chapter of the series, in Epic Illustrated #3. A man named Vanth. After the events of the saga, Vanth Dreadstar finds himself in a new galaxy, engaged in a small guerilla rebellion against a fascist power. At one point, Starlin takes the story from Marvel to First comics, and then eventually hands the character to writer Peter David to take in new directions. This cosmic and anti-fascist and anti-war themes of these stories will echo through all of Starlin's work. We've already seen Starlin's work on Thanos in my list, and we'll see Starlin again.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 15, 2023 17:26:09 GMT -5
On the third day of Classic Comic Christmas I give you... #10:Marsupilami For a long time I was convinced that Marsupilami was just a fever dream or Mandela effect like experience from my youth as I remembered loving a Disney cartoon about a strange leopard printed monkey who had odd adventures but when ever I brought him up no one else knew what the heck I was talking about. It was only later that I learned that not only did the character and cartoon really did exist and that the reason no one else seemed to remember him was because apparently the cartoon only existed for like twelve episodes and it had such poor viewership it was often switched around but none of that mattered because I loved it! Unfortunately although he originally debuted in 1952's Spirou & Fantasio it wasn't until just recently that I was actually able to really get to know Marsupilami as none of the volumes with him in it were translated into English until 2009 and it was only in 2017 that I was able to read the actual Marsupilami spin off series that started in 1987! All that said it was well worth the wait as although the comic adventures were much different than the cartoon I originally fell in love with the off beat humor and sarcasm of the book made for a fantastic read and the energy of the art is just fantastic. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2023 17:50:20 GMT -5
#10 – Hit-Girl #1–5 (2012–13)
I can't believe I'm not familiar with this one, it seems to have all of the ingredients I like.
Will deal with that anomaly soon....
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 15, 2023 20:43:33 GMT -5
10. MagikFirst Appeared in: Giant-Size X-Men #1 (1975) Spin-offs: Magik (1983), New Mutants (1984) Sure, it really felt like Chris Claremont was trying to rip off the only thing about New Teen Titans that wasn't swiped directly from the X-Men (go ahead, fight me), but the darkchylde was so much younger...and we'd known her for eight years as an innocent tag-along before she was mercilessly transformed. Claremont managed to take a character absolutely no one cared about and turn her into one of the most memorable X-characters of all time. Best of all, while Kurt made an excellent case for why the New Mutants does not count as a spin-off as originally published, Magik's addition to the team only a little over a year in gave it a more direct link to its predecessor. In my mind, New Mutants was pretty much reborn at this point, with new characters, far superior art that appealed to a more mature audience, and (especially) a more direct tie to the X-Men as a spin-off. Great Minds and all that... Magik is also my pick. I got this series out of the dollar bins before they re-introduced Magik as a primary X-character.. I didn't really no anything about her before I read it, but I loved it... and produced one of my favorite covers ever. This is what lead me to read first the Inferno crossover and then New Mutants.  |
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Post by foxley on Dec 15, 2023 20:48:49 GMT -5
10. Silver Sable and the Wild Pack #1-35 1992-1995   For some reason, I have always loved Silver Sable, the mercenary who first appeared in Amazing spider-Man. Something about her combination of elegance, ruthlessness and ass-kicking ability just appeals to me. I do enjoy this spin-off series she got in the early 90s, although it never lived up to its potential (IMO). It suffered from typical issues common to second-string Marvel titles in the 90s: a pointless 'cover enhancement' on #1; forced participation in a company-wide crossover (Infinity War) where it didn't really fit; and guest-star appearances from the current 'hot' characters (Deathlok, Venom). But where this book really shone for me was in its supporting cast. Possibly realising that Sable may not have been strong to carry the book on her own, writer Gregory Wright focused on developing the eponymous Wild Pack. This included picking up some existing characters, such as Battlestar, who had been languishing in limbo since Steve Rogers took back the Captain America identity from John Walker, and Crippler, a very minor Daredevil villain. Being a second string title, and presumably under less scrutiny than the flagship books, Wright actually achieved several firsts for Marvel. I believe that Amy Chen was Marvel's first openly lesbian character, and that Raul Quentino was Marvel's first HIV positive character (that is, having HIV but not AIDS). And Lightbright was a Somalian character, demonstrating that Africa in the Marvel Universe does not consist solely of a Utopian black kingdom that is deliberately withholding the cure for cancer from the world that is entirely surrounded by comic opera versions of apartheid era South Africa.
Wright constructed a team of flawed individuals who were all trying to better themselves, highlighting the sometimes ignored fact that Sable was a person who believes in second chances. Battlestar was an established hero, but Crippler was a sadomasochist mercenary who used to work for HYDRA; Chen was an ex-sex slave turned assassin; Powell was a former bodyguard to the Grand Dragon of the KKK; and Quentino was a former LA gang-banger.
Wright was the writer for the whole series, with Steven Butler the artist for the first 2/3rds of the run. Gordon Purcell did the art for the last part of the book, although Butler continued doing a back-up feature with stories starring individual members of the Wild Pack. Butler's art was bit stiff at first but got better as the series went, especially when he starting personalising Sable's costume. In the final issue, the back-up story starred Li'l Sylvie, a cartoony version of Sable that Butler created while idly doodling on the back of some of the pages he was drawing and whom Wright liked so much he figured he had to use, that is a quite funny and very pointed jab at the shabby way Marvel tended to treat books headlined by female characters.
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Post by berkley on Dec 16, 2023 0:03:43 GMT -5
10. Highland Laddie
I could have picked any of the three or four spin-off titles from Ennis's The Boys but I'll go with this middle one as representative of the entire set and for its insights into Hughie's background. All the spin-offs were both entertaining and highly functional in filling out the whole world of The Boys and its various characters, adding even more depth to what was already an impressive achiement in fictional world-building. Highland Laddie in particular helped consolidate Hughie's position as the soul and moral conscience of the team, though of course in other ways the charismatic but morally ambiguous (to put it mildly) Butcher was often the main focus. And all of them individually and as a set, but I thk Highland Laddie in particular, helped make The Biys as a whole an even more immersive reading experience than it would have been without them. A fine example of how to use spin-offs effectively in this kind of ongoing but still limited series with a well-defined beginning, middle, and end.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2023 1:56:42 GMT -5
On the third day of Classic Comic Christmas I give you... #10:Marsupilami
I remember the cartoon well actually and enjoyed it quite a bit, so this definitely intrigues me even though you said it is different. Added to my want list, thanks! |
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 16, 2023 3:47:58 GMT -5
(...) Crippler was a soda-masochist mercanary who used to work for HYDRA; (...) Man, I don't even want to know, but I'll bet he's the bane of any restaurant that offers soft drink free refills... Oh, by the way, you misspelled merkinary.  |
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Post by foxley on Dec 16, 2023 4:48:52 GMT -5
(...) Crippler was a soda-masochist mercanary who used to work for HYDRA; (...) Man, I don't even want to know, but I'll bet he's the bane of any restaurant that offers soft drink free refills... Oh, by the way, you misspelled merkinary. That has to have been one of my better typos.  |
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 16, 2023 5:08:00 GMT -5
That has to have been one of my better typos. I was kind of hoping you wouldn't correct it. |
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Post by foxley on Dec 16, 2023 5:18:36 GMT -5
That has to have been one of my better typos. I was kind of hoping you wouldn't correct it. Your quote preserves it for eternity.  |
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