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Post by kirby101 on Feb 5, 2024 14:05:29 GMT -5
Maybe they didn't want to disappoint fans who were expecting another Bernstein/Hartley epic.
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 5, 2024 14:14:33 GMT -5
Maybe they didn't want to disappoint fans who were expecting another Bernstein/Hartley epic. That would've packed 'em in.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 8, 2024 6:28:17 GMT -5
Journey Into Mystery #98"Challenged by the human Cobra"
Writer Stan Lee Artist: Don Heck Plot summary: We open the issue with Thor unleashing his anger on his alter ego’s office over Jane Foster leaving his employ to work for another doctor. Blake decides to take a trip to India to try to forget his sadness. Meanwhile in another part of India, a friend of Blakes Dr. Shecktor, is working on an antidote for Snake venom. His lab assistant named Klaus, has a Cobra bite both him and the doctor but withholds the cure from his boss to murder him and take credit for the discovery. It turns out that the Cobra that bit them both was radioactive giving Klaus powers like a snake. Blake learns of his friend being at his death bed and is told by Shecktor , himself what had transpired. Thor pursues the Cobra to America where he is trying to extort control in a chemical factory. After a brief battle , the Cobra escapes and goes to a doctors office to find chemicals in which to create more weapons. It turns out to be the office where Jane Foster is currently working . When confronted, Dr. Andrews shows fear and doesn’t resist the Cobra’s demands, which makes Foster angry. She signals Thor by throwing an object out of a nearby window and he arrives to battle Klaus. The Cobra escapes while Thor is rescuing Foster. The artwork by Don Heck was well done. I never knew why people didn’t regard him higher for his craft. I don’t see anything wrong with his layouts. Tales of Asgard
Lee/ Kirby/Heck
This 5 page story tells of the battle between Odin and Ymir , the ice giant. At the end, Ymir is trapped in the middle of the Earth surrounded by a wall of flames. I have to admit, I have never found any of the TOA stories to be interesting. I always just skipped them in past readings. Comments:This plot is all over the place with wild coincidences. Blake happens to vacation in India where Shecktor is being murdered. The Cobra just happens to break into the office where Jane is working. Thor finds the Cobra without searching too much in the city. He also finds out that the Cobra was at the airport going to America based on a description, but he has never seen him. Blake appears to love to leave his luggage behind everywhere he goes as he travels back to America as Thor. Once there, he fights the Cobra in a factory where suddenly the antagonist has all types of weapons. Klaus was described as a no talent assistant but he has the capability to fashion intricate weapons and mix chemicals with expert skill. The Cobra is only referred to as “ Klaus “ in the story, maybe he gains a full name in his next appearance. Jane Foster is angry at her new boss's reluctance to resist the Cobra, I guess she’s expecting everyone to risk their lives like Thor does, which is strange. Because of this, she returns to work for Blake. Cool Moment:I liked seeing Thor going crazy and trashing Blakes office with his hammer at the beginning of the story. Thor uses his hammer to create a typhon to get him to America quickly.I wonder if this ability is ever seen again. Silly momentTo free Jane, Thor sneaks up on the Cobra and gives him a Spider-man kick.
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 8, 2024 9:07:38 GMT -5
Cobra's full name is Klaus Voorhees, a fact first revealed in The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #2.
Cei-U! I summon the deadly Dutchman!
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 8, 2024 9:40:33 GMT -5
Cobra's full name is Klaus Voorhees, a fact first revealed in The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #2. Cei-U! I summon the deadly Dutchman! Thanks man. I believe this is the first Thor villain to get away at the end creating a recurring foe. The Radioactive man supposedly dies in his appearance.
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 8, 2024 9:44:26 GMT -5
A word about Heck. I confess I did not like his books when I was young. But hindsight has had me reappraise him. No, there was nothing wrong with his layouts, the problem was he wasn't Kirby, and Stan specifically told him to do books like Kirby, which had him struggle against his own instincts. He had different sensibilities than Kirby and you can see that in his 50s work, especially on non superhero books. He usually did fill ins or took over books from Kirby, so there was an unfair comparison. I also don't think the Marvel method was a good fit for him. And for me personally, I did not like the scratchy style of his self inking, which he often did. I think he looked better when inked by others.
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Post by Hoosier X on Feb 8, 2024 10:11:37 GMT -5
The title for the Epic Collection of the first three years of the Thor series should be “Get Jane Foster!”
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 8, 2024 14:11:53 GMT -5
Cobra's full name is Klaus Voorhees, a fact first revealed in The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #2. Cei-U! I summon the deadly Dutchman! Thanks man. I believe this is the first Thor villain to get away at the end creating a recurring foe. The Radioactive man supposedly dies in his appearance. Except, of course, he promptly shows up in Avengers #6 as one of the Masters of Evil, recruited by Zemo specifically because of his ability to deflect Thor's hammer. Radioactive Man thereafter appears primarily as an Avengers villain, either with one incarnation or another of the Masters or with the short-lived team The Titanic Three, JiM #97 is, however, his only solo outing against Thor.
Cei-U! I summon the glowing green goon!
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Post by Hoosier X on Feb 8, 2024 17:48:53 GMT -5
Normally, I should be commenting on Mr. Trombone's review of the previous issue, but I don't have much to add. It's not such a great story, but I think it's a step in the right direction after what we saw in a lot of the issues leading up to #97. I like the Don Heck art. The Cobra sure has a nice costume design. And the most important part of his mission is ... GET JANE FOSTER!
Journey into Mystery #99December 1963 "The Mysterious Mister Hyde" Wow! They sure do spend a lot of time setting this one up! Thor is swinging his hammer, preparing to hurl himself into the sky, and the onlookers are gazing in wonder as this legendary figure wields Mjolnir with the mighty thews in his arms and rockets into the Manhattan sky. We have a couple of panels set aside for the New Yorkers to chat amongst themselves about what a great moment it was, something to tell the grandchildren, and also how dreamy Thor is! But one there is among them who has different, darker thoughts. One observant woman backs away from this brooding figure, sensing his evil, threatening aura. "I've never seen anyone so repulsive -- so frightening!" It's Mr. Hyde! He is glad that Thor is leaving the city. With Thor gone, he can put his evil plans into action. And of course, in the last panel on page two, he reveals that his next stop is ... the magic story engine known as Dr. Blake's office! We'll have to wait a few panels to find out what that's about. Thor goes to Asgard to badger Odin about this whole Jane Foster thing. It just doesn't matter how often Odin tells the thunder god that "NO" is the final word on Odin's decision to let Thor marry a mortal, even if she is a hot nurse who gets kidnapped by weird bad guys all the time. Meanwhile, back on Midgard, while Mr. Hyde is having a flashback on the street below, unsuspecting Nurse Foster is in Blake's office, looking through some files for some reason and thinking about how frustrating it is that Don Blake can't seem to act on his romantic feelings. So now Mr. Hyde has a few pages for his flashback. He doesn't know that Don Blake is Thor. He is mad at Dr. Blake! Hyde is secretly a con artist/embezzler/thief named Calvin Zabo who previously tried to get a job with Blake because he thought he could rip off a lame doctor at his leisure during his employment. But Blake had heard of Zabo and wouldn't hire him. So Zabo got SO MAD that he became an expert chemist and whipped up a concoction similar to the one in the famous story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, and thus became the ruthless, powerful Mr. Hyde so now he can get his revenge on Don Blake for not hiring him. That's what it says here! I swear! The most amazing thing about this plot is that he doesn't seem the least bit interested in abducting Jane Foster! And then we go back to Asgard for a few panels, and Thor is so persistently whiny that Odin finally concedes that if Jane Foster can prove herself worthy of immortality, then ... MAYBE ... Odin will be a little more open to Thor's petition. So Thor now has a tiny sliver of hope and he goes back to Earth, to his private office, just as Dr. Hyde busts down the door and shouts at Nurse Jane that he must see Dr. Blake right away! So Thor turns into Blake and wonders what the commotion is and then Hyde busts down the door to his private office and throws him out the window! Jane faints. It was just too much to see Dr. Blake get thrown out the window. (I feel like Jane has already seen A LOT of crazy stuff since Journey into Mystery #84 and should be able to get a grip by this point. I'm not sure that she hasn't already seen Dr. Blake thrown out a window and surviving at this point, but I don't feel like going back and looking.) Blake has his magic stick so he slams it against the side of the building and turns into Thor. Whew! Hyde tears open Blake's wall safe and steals his cash and all his notes from a "lifetime of research and study." I assume this is why Blake never dabbled in creating androids again. Mr. Hyde stole his notes! Hyde leaves the scene so quickly that by the time Thor gets there, the bad guy is long gone. Thor finds Jane on the floor, recovering from her fainting spell. Thor tells her that he rescued Blake and then he flies off to find Mr. Hyde (but not before turning into Blake for a minute to call the office to tell Jane that he's safe and he'll back in the office soon). But Hyde has gotten away. Later, he hears that Blake isn't dead, and he vows to destroy Thor for ruining his revenge against Don Blake, who wouldn't hire him and then meekly let him steal from him. Who wouldn't be mad? So Hyde dresses up as Thor and robs a bank and everybody thinks Thor is a bank robber and now the cops are looking for Thor and the story ends abruptly without even a single panel of Blake or Thor being mad or pissed about it or Jane Foster wondering why Thor went bad or Odin angry that Jane Foster fainted and is certainly not worthy of being immortal if she can't even watch somebody fall out of a meeting without fainting. TO BE CONTINUED! Commentary: I love this stuff! Sure, it's easy to start picking it apart. Like how long did Mr. Hyde stand on the street corner having a flashback about how much he hates Dr. Donald Blake while Thor flew to Asgard and argued with Odin? And how did Hyde disappear so fast when Blake was falling out a window and turning to Thor and (presumably) hurrying back to the office to stop Mr. Hyde from destroying all his notes on android research? And what's wrong with Mr. Hyde? He didn't even try to abduct Jane! (Oh well. It's a two-part story. Maybe he'll abduct jane in the next episode of Get Jane Foster!) Expanding these stories to two (or more!) parts is a great idea! Hopefully they won't be so prone to ending quickly with some dumb resolution just because there's only two or three panels left.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 12, 2024 21:20:28 GMT -5
Journey into Mystery #100 "The master plan of Mr. Hyde!"
Writer Stan Lee
Artist:Don Heck
Plot summary: The previous issue left us with the city thinking Thor has gone bad robbing banks. Little do they know that Mr. Hyde has taken to Impersonating the Thunder god. Well Thor soon finds out the city hates him and surmises it must be Hyde taking his Identity. Well, he goes back to his office remembering that he was taking Jane out for her birthday. Hyde discovered that Blake is still alive and abducts them both in the restaurant. He ties Blake up with a bomb that will go off in 24 hours if he doesn't return to defuse it. He then takes Jane along to steal a Polaris submarine. Blake free's himself and finds Hyde but is separated from his Hammer so he defeats Hyde by creating a Tornado by using his cape. As he's about to capture Hyde, Jane interferes in order to save the captive Blake, from blowing up. Thor promises to free Blake and leaves Jane suspicious wondering how Thor knew where Blake was held captive. Odin seeing all that transpired from Asgard, forbids his son to be with Jane because she betrayed him causing Hyde to escape. Comments:This story took a big step backwards in quality. There's more than a few things that didn't make sense. Why did Hyde impersonate Thor to rob a bank ? It's not explained what his goal was. Odin has forbidden Thor to fall in love with Jane, but he's allowed to date her? The police tell Thor that they know he impersonated him. Huh ? How do they know that exactly ? It's the first 100th issue of a Marvel mag and I didn't expect anything special, the company didn't do that yet for anniversary issues, but why did it have to be so bad? Cool Moment:None Silly moment
Thor using his cape to start a tornado. I think this is going to be yet another power you will never see again. Tales of Asgard
"The Storm giants "
Writer: Lee, Art: Kirby Inks: Paul Reinman
This is the first tale that shows Thor and Loki as kids. They both see the giants going to their castle after stealing the Golden Apples of Iduna and Thor wants to get them back. Thor is discovered by the Giants because Loki pushes him into view. As he fights against the giants, Loki creates a smoke diversion. Thor escapes with Loki and the apples aboard Agnar the eagle , who had been held captive by the giants. When they arrive in Asgard, Odin gives all the credit to Thor and he's able to slightly lift Odin's hammer, as a sign of his becoming worthy. Comments: Not a bad story. Thor seems to want to believe that Loki started the fire in the Giants castle to help him escape. Cool moment: the introduction of Agnar the eagle was visually nice and a good piece of world building. Seeing Young Thor attempting to move the hammer which was half his size was a nice treat.
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 13, 2024 4:29:34 GMT -5
The smartest thing Lee and Kirby ever did on Thor was writing out Jane Foster. It's just too bad it took them so bloody long.
Cei-U! I summon the stone cold drag!
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 13, 2024 5:22:43 GMT -5
The smartest thing Lee and Kirby ever did on Thor was writing out Jane Foster. It's just too bad it took them so bloody long. Cei-U! I summon the stone cold drag! It seems that a lot of the early Marvel books had the denied love angle. Daredevil's relationship with Karen Page springs to mind. The heart wants what it wants. Maybe it was influenced by the early romance books and it set it apart from DC in that respect.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 13, 2024 5:30:01 GMT -5
I forgot to add that in the Tales of Asgard story Kirby was inked by Paul Reinman which reminds me that he also inked him in Avengers #3. That issue is a favorite of mine, maybe I need to pull out my copy and give it a read.
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Post by Hoosier X on Feb 13, 2024 18:57:50 GMT -5
So about Journey into Mystery #100 ... yeah, Mr. Trombone is correct. It's not very good. It's really rather silly and dumb. Still, it doesn't bother me as much as most of the stories before #97! I'm so glad we're past that!
And as for Jane Foster being written out of the series ...
Honestly, I think Jane was much better the further you get into the 1960s! We're still in 1964, but we'll get a few years down the line and Jane's role in the series gets a little more interesting. She starts to get more of a life of her own instead of just being Nurse Foster, Girl Hostage and endless retreads of either the heroine of Nurse Romance Comics or "I Loved a Thunder God!"
She'll be pursued by Hercules! She'll have a roommate, Tana Nile, who will turn out to be one of the Colonizers in disguise and will then declare herslf the Empress of Earth! Tana Nile will hypnotize her with some Rigellian science and Jane will start wandering the world, eventually becoming the schoolmarm for the New Men, a bunch of pig-men, man-dogs, snake-guys and monkey-dudes.
And then they write her out of the strip and bring in Sif.
Which is fine. But I really do love Jane's fascinating adventures, one or two panels at a time, in the last year before they got rid of her.
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Post by Hoosier X on Feb 13, 2024 19:18:46 GMT -5
Journey into Mystery #101February 1964 "The Return of Zarrko, the Tomorrow Man!" Thor is big mad! He is just striding down the street and not even looking where he's going. He even inadvertently chips off a piece of a lamppost and smashes a steel waste basket with his big dumb feet. The police are holding everybody back! Some ants report back to Dr. Pym and Janet, and they tell the other Avengers (which is just Iron Man at this point, so this must take place before Avengers #4) and they rush over to see what the fuss is. Just in time to see Thor step in front of a speeding truck! The driver cries out, "Watch out, fancy pants!" And Thor is like "Make me!" and he punches the truck and the front of the cab goes flying! Fortunately, no one is hurt, and Iron Man pays him off with some Stark Industries coupons. They ask Thor what is wrong and he says "Nunna your business!" and they say "OK" and leave. Thor is big mad because of the usual "Odin won't let me marry Jane Foster" business, and Loki is up in Asgard, getting Odin all mad and outraged over Thor being such a weenie and Odin is like, "You're right, my evil adopted son who is the god of evil! I'd better let myself get all riled up by your uncharitable rhetoric and take away some of Thor's god-like powers!" Which he then does, so Thor is operating at about quarter strength for the coming Zarrko adventure. So Loki is now looking for some vessel through which to channel his latest revenge scheme against Thor and, whilst peering into the Well of Centuries, he comes across Zarrko in the far future and Loki restores his memory. Zarrko is like "I remember me now! I am Zarrko!" and he rushes off to modify a mining robot to be his servant and then he travels to the 20th century and gets his robot to start trashing the city because he's certain that the news of the carnage will attract Thor! Blake soon hears of this mad rampage, so he turns to Thor and flies to the scene and fights with the robot. But with his power so depleted, Thor can barely make a dent in the indestructible robot, and he certainly can't stop its rampage. Zarrko will continue to order the robot to run amok UNLESS Thor agrees to go back with him to the future and help him enslave the 23rd century. Because he can't make any headway against the robot and because he doesn't want to see any humans hurt, Thor agrees to go back with Zarrko. But Odin and Loki are up in Asgard, watching. Loki is gloating and pointing, saying, "Odin! Look at Thor! He is joining that villain Zarrko and going to the 23rd century to help him enslave the future!" And Odin, completely forgetting that Thor is in a weakened state because Odin did it at Loki's urging, well, it's now Odin's turn to be big mad! And so, Zarrko and Thor disappear into the future, and we'll have to wait until next month to see the end because it's ... TO BE CONTINUED! Commentary: It's too bad there aren't any other super-heroes around to help. I guess the Hulk and the Fantastic Four and the X-Men and the other Avengers (who didn't have anything else to do seven pages ago) are all busy and can't help Thor. Pencils by Jack Kirby and inks by George Roussos, and they are a great team! I especially love all those FF issues by Roussos. Zarrko gets extra points for not trying to abduct Jane Foster! Maybe he just didn't see her. She's only in the flashback to the previous issue and is not otherwise in this issue. I think Zarrko just doesn't know about Don Blake and the doctor's office. I think it's nice that Jane got a well-deserved rest in this issue. Maybe she went to the movies.
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