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Post by MDG on Apr 2, 2024 12:03:22 GMT -5
Not to mention the "CD-ROMix"   |
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 2, 2024 12:49:34 GMT -5
Not to mention the "CD-ROMix" I'd have to research and am not THAT curious; but, I think Innovation beat them to the punch on CD-ROM comics. They had about as much success with them, too. You'd think Marvel would have jumped on that, just so we could have CD-ROM, Spaceknight! |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 2, 2024 15:39:01 GMT -5
Marvel didn't offer sufficient financial incentive to bring in top talent (the big names that showed up mostly did it out of friendship or were gone almost immediately) and while there was indeed a general guideline to the new line ("superheroes living in the world we have outside our windows"), titles like Justice broke that rule immediately by starring a guy from a fantasy world in a parallel dimension. I've never read the series, but I remember they tried to retcon it with the protagonist being delusional or something. After how many issues? They did exactly that, but I had stopped reading by then. I think it happened shortly before Starbrand blew up Pittsburgh. |
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Post by zaku on Apr 2, 2024 16:22:04 GMT -5
I've never read the series, but I remember they tried to retcon it with the protagonist being delusional or something. After how many issues? They did exactly that, but I had stopped reading by then. I think it happened shortly before Starbrand blew up Pittsburgh. Of course I had to google it, and it happened in the issue #15, with the new creative team of Peter David and Lee Weeks. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 2, 2024 16:32:18 GMT -5
Not to mention the "CD-ROMix" I'd have to research and am not THAT curious; but, I think Innovation beat them to the punch on CD-ROM comics. They had about as much success with them, too. You'd think Marvel would have jumped on that, just so we could have CD-ROM, Spaceknight! I bought these two collections years ago.  |
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Post by driver1980 on Apr 2, 2024 16:36:06 GMT -5
Were letters pages included in those collections, Icctrombone? |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 2, 2024 16:55:49 GMT -5
Were letters pages included in those collections, Icctrombone ? I just took some screen shots of the copies I made of the CD-Roms. Yes they have letters pages.   The water marks showed up when I burned them to CD's. |
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Post by driver1980 on Apr 2, 2024 17:04:27 GMT -5
Thank you. It’s a shame collected editions and Marvel Unlimited can’t give us letters pages (some have them, but there appears to be no consistency).
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Post by Marv-El on Apr 2, 2024 17:33:22 GMT -5
Starting off with 8 titles is ambitious however I think the initial concept was ahead of it's time. The idea was sound, the execution was flawed.
My problem at that time was that most of the concepts just didn't appeal to me. Being a huge Iron Man fan, the only title that did sound interesting was Spitfire but even with that, I only followed it for the first 4, 5 issues at most. Maybe reducing the initial number of titles down to maybe 4 would've helped more. Because with it being Marvel making this effort, they needed to make a very strong debut in order to capture (and keep) readers' attention. They didn't which, in my case, made me just keep reading the MU shared universe instead.
Now when Ellis rebooted the NU franchise (back around the '00s I think), the new ideas he injected into those core concepts made it much more interesting to me. He only focused on Starbrand, Nightmask, and Spitfire (if I recall correctly) initially, taking his time in establishing those characters first. He was building a new history for the NU but unfortunately he wasn't able to (or allowed to) continue with that relaunch.
Then recently Hickman hijacked some NU concepts (mainly the Starbrand and Nightmask) into his Avengers opus and so Marvel ended up co-opting the New Universe into the MU anyway.
Still, the idea that one of the Big Two would make the concerted effort to establish a brand-new shared comic universe was ground-breaking at that time I believe.
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Post by MDG on Apr 2, 2024 19:08:12 GMT -5
Were letters pages included in those collections, Icctrombone ? I just took some screen shots of the copies I made of the CD-Roms. Yes they have letters pages. The water marks showed up when I burned them to CD's. The CD-ROMIX weren't copes if the book; they went through the story panel by panel with dialog, sound fx and musid, as well as some limited animation and visual effects. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 2, 2024 20:45:31 GMT -5
You’re right, they were called DVD-Roms. They were invaluable before places like Marvel Unlimited came along.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2024 8:12:36 GMT -5
It's a funny phenomenon (well, at least for me) that sometimes something I didn't really get into back in the day suddenly seems cool when it gets referenced into something more modern. Like learning Ellis did a New Universe revival of sorts, I never knew that and feel compelled to check it out now.
Not to get too off-topic, but I had little interest in say Blue Devil back in the 80's. But if he showed up now (at least somewhat recognizable as the classic character), it would be like "hey, that's Blue Devil, awesome!".
Sometimes even the "misses" from a business/critical standpoint still make a history of sorts. I guess the New Universe seems that way to me in retrospect, it WAS an event and a swing at something different at the time, well ahead of the broader world making efforts that were to come as others have referenced.
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Post by driver1980 on Apr 3, 2024 8:31:35 GMT -5
It's a funny phenomenon (well, at least for me) that sometimes something I didn't really get into back in the day suddenly seems cool when it gets referenced into something more modern. Like learning Ellis did a New Universe revival of sorts, I never knew that and feel compelled to check it out now. Not to get too off-topic, but I had little interest in say Blue Devil back in the 80's. But if he showed up now (at least somewhat recognizable as the classic character), it would be like "hey, that's Blue Devil, awesome!". Sometimes even the "misses" from a business/critical standpoint still make a history of sorts. I guess the New Universe seems that way to me in retrospect, it WAS an event and a swing at something different at the time, well ahead of the broader world making efforts that were to come as others have referenced. I feel that way about Superman Red/Superman Blue (Modern Age version). |
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Post by mikelmidnight on Apr 3, 2024 10:05:38 GMT -5
It's a funny phenomenon (well, at least for me) that sometimes something I didn't really get into back in the day suddenly seems cool when it gets referenced into something more modern. Like learning Ellis did a New Universe revival of sorts, I never knew that and feel compelled to check it out now. It will frustrate you for being unfinished, but it's a fantastic comic, one of the best things Ellis has ever done. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 8, 2024 5:53:47 GMT -5
It occurs to me that The New Universe suffered because it came FROM Marvel comics. If it was something introduced by Eclipse or Pacific Comics, it might not have been rejected the way it was. That and also Marvels bosses took all the funding away from the line.
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