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Post by majestic on Jul 27, 2024 10:38:09 GMT -5
What era would you prefer for a current JSA series? I would like a late 40s series. It would be great reading JSA post WW2. My second choice would be the 60s. I really don't like present day stories because the focus isn't on the old guys. And WW2 stories have been done before multiple times. Also I think the series should take place on Earth-2.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2024 12:28:12 GMT -5
I too like the classic team and a more period piece setting. I chose the late 40's which I agree would work nicely, and it reminds me of one of my all-time favorite JSA stories, the Elseworlds Golden Age mini that had them disband after the war but get back together in the 50's in which the story is set. So I would say late 40's even into the 50's would work for me. Another option might be, with some select retconning, putting them more in the pre-war 30's as their youngest incarnation.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 27, 2024 17:53:48 GMT -5
I picked late 40s. But I’d be fine with either that or WWII.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 27, 2024 18:06:56 GMT -5
Late 40s would be more interesting, with political upheaval and atomic energy being a thing. The best instance of that is James Robinson's The Golden Age mini-series, which explores that time frame, expanding to include characters who have been ignored, like Captain Triumph. It fell along similar lines as I had been thinking, in the early 90s, when I was outlining a possible generational story, with the groups matching the major periods of comic book superheroes, but throwing in more historical things like HUAC and the Atomic Battlefield tests, using the latter to create the first real super-being. In The Golden Age, Dan the Dyna-Mite is the test subject for an experiment involving a nuclear bomb and imbued with tremendous power, becoming Dyna-Man, an Atomic Age Superman. I had also been considering the idea of a more Conservative patriotic hero, who in the post-war era side more with people like McCarthy and is involved in CIA dirty tricks. Robinson hit a lot of those same ideas in the series, though Paul Levitz introduced the idea of HUAC driving away the JSA, back in Adventure Comics, in the late 70s. I had also an idea about Tex Thompson being the Americommando post-War and sure if he didn't tap him as his Conservative patriot.
I did not have an idea about doing a series where I am a drug addled mess, to be rescued by Airboy, though.
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Post by nairb73 on Jul 27, 2024 23:19:01 GMT -5
World War II...but specifically, later than 1942. I don't think Roy Thomas made it out of that year in THE INVADERS, and he only got as far as July 1942 in ALL-STAR SQUADRON.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 27, 2024 23:31:00 GMT -5
Though my preference tends to be pre-WWII.
I’m a pulpy kind of guy.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jul 28, 2024 2:09:01 GMT -5
Whichever era it is, can I write it please?
Cei-U!
I summon my dream job!
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 28, 2024 3:56:37 GMT -5
Whichever era it is, can I write it please? Cei-U! I summon my dream job! I quite emphatically second this suggestion. |
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Jul 28, 2024 8:31:41 GMT -5
I put present day. I'm getting to be an old man. I want to read about old folk heroes with old folk problems, some struggling to cope because they forgot what it's like to be young, others trying to cope because they are becoming obsolete and not the target demographic for anything and moaning all the time how things stopped being good and everything current sucks. You know, heroes I can relate to because they represent me as I am now and what I am going through with my peer group and not some fond nostagiac account of a world that only exists in the flawed memories of others and never really was because it ignores the inconvenient truths of that time. A current day JSA with their roots in the greatest generation with lifespans somehow extended so they are still active now, even in their golden years, would be the perfect vehicle for that. It would be much more relevant and entertaining if done right, than the same old male power fantasies I consumed when I was 8-15ish.
-M
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 28, 2024 18:14:39 GMT -5
Whichever era it is, can I write it please? Cei-U! I summon my dream job! Can we make that happen? I'd defintely buy it! |
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Jul 28, 2024 18:32:43 GMT -5
I think my favorite JSA series/run was the short lived 10 issue '92 run that was set in contemporary times (for that time) and did deal with the members reckoning with old age, considering retirement, etc. Granted it had to contend with the return form Limbo imposed by the ill conceived Last Days of the JSA Special, but that context and starting status quo worked so well for the JSA and created so many interesting character dynamics you just don't see in a lot of super-hero comics and wouldn't get at all in period pieces set in previous decades.
-M
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 28, 2024 18:35:30 GMT -5
WW2. I like them in their original element. I enjoyed the Thomas series.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 28, 2024 19:51:06 GMT -5
I put present day. I'm getting to be an old man. I want to read about old folk heroes with old folk problems, some struggling to cope because they forgot what it's like to be young, others trying to cope because they are becoming obsolete and not the target demographic for anything and moaning all the time how things stopped being good and everything current sucks. You know, heroes I can relate to because they represent me as I am now and what I am going through with my peer group and not some fond nostagiac account of a world that only exists in the flawed memories of others and never really was because it ignores the inconvenient truths of that time. A current day JSA with their roots in the greatest generation with lifespans somehow extended so they are still active now, even in their golden years, would be the perfect vehicle for that. It would be much more relevant and entertaining if done right, than the same old male power fantasies I consumed when I was 8-15ish. -M 24 pages of Flash running back and forth between rooms, trying to remember what he was looking for. Wildcat in furry slippers because his feet hurt and they are comfortable. Heroes with their trunks pulled up to their chest. Members having heart attacks every time the Spectre turns up. Dr Fate having to repeatedly tell the others that he isn't that kind of doctor, when they bring physical complaints to him, at meetings. |
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Jul 28, 2024 20:13:54 GMT -5
I put present day. I'm getting to be an old man. I want to read about old folk heroes with old folk problems, some struggling to cope because they forgot what it's like to be young, others trying to cope because they are becoming obsolete and not the target demographic for anything and moaning all the time how things stopped being good and everything current sucks. You know, heroes I can relate to because they represent me as I am now and what I am going through with my peer group and not some fond nostagiac account of a world that only exists in the flawed memories of others and never really was because it ignores the inconvenient truths of that time. A current day JSA with their roots in the greatest generation with lifespans somehow extended so they are still active now, even in their golden years, would be the perfect vehicle for that. It would be much more relevant and entertaining if done right, than the same old male power fantasies I consumed when I was 8-15ish. -M 24 pages of Flash running back and forth between rooms, trying to remember what he was looking for. Wildcat in furry slippers because his feet hurt and they are comfortable. Heroes with their trunks pulled up to their chest. Members having heart attacks every time the Spectre turns up. Dr Fate having to repeatedly tell the others that he isn't that kind of doctor, when they bring physical complaints to him, at meetings. What an utterly unimaginative and pedestrian take on that filled with tired stereotypes, boring tropes and ageism. If that is the best you can come up with for stories about aging, I don't know what to say. There's not much that hasn't already been done with male power fantasy, JSA in WWII, etc. but comic fans seem to cleave to already plowed ground as nauseum, complain it's all been done before and that there's nothing new or innovative than poo poo anything that isn't within the same tired parameters they've seen before a hundred times over and wonder why there's never anything new. There's lots of wonderful, deep, insightful stories that can be done about aging, but some people are too terrified to their own mortality or the creeping obsolescence to getting old and forgotten by society to begin to consider them. Easier to keep doing stuff that was good for us when we were adolescence because it's safer that way, and we can pretend we haven't gotten old if we don't acknowledge it or let out tastes progress beyond the tired old same old same old. But then as much as people say comics aren't just for kids, all they want is the comics they had as a kid. -M |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 28, 2024 20:26:38 GMT -5
24 pages of Flash running back and forth between rooms, trying to remember what he was looking for. Wildcat in furry slippers because his feet hurt and they are comfortable. Heroes with their trunks pulled up to their chest. Members having heart attacks every time the Spectre turns up. Dr Fate having to repeatedly tell the others that he isn't that kind of doctor, when they bring physical complaints to him, at meetings. What an utterly unimaginative and pedestrian take on that filled with tired stereotypes, boring tropes and ageism. If that is the best you can come up with for stories about aging, I don't know what to say. There's not much that hasn't already been done with male power fantasy, JSA in WWII, etc. but comic fans seem to cleave to already plowed ground as nauseum, complain it's all been done before and that there's nothing new or innovative than poo poo anything that isn't within the same tired parameters they've seen before a hundred times over and wonder why there's never anything new. There's lots of wonderful, deep, insightful stories that can be done about aging, but some people are too terrified to their own mortality or the creeping obsolescence to getting old and forgotten by society to begin to consider them. Easier to keep doing stuff that was good for us when we were adolescence because it's safer that way, and we can pretend we haven't gotten old if we don't acknowledge it or let out tastes progress beyond the tired old same old same old. But then as much as people say comics aren't just for kids, all they want is the comics they had as a kid. -M It was just a joke. |
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