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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Dec 7, 2014 14:12:59 GMT -5
I'm hoping my English is correct there, but here goes.
I've been reading the Legion and Legionnaires from the early 90s and looking at the art of Chris Sprouse it strikes me that I can see a lot of Steve Ditko in there. I may well be the only one to ever see it BUT you must have seen artistic influences...spill the beans.
Bill Sienkiewicz seemed to be heavily influenced by Neal Adams early in his career. Butch Guice on Captain America seemed to show the influence of George Tuska.
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Post by gothos on Dec 7, 2014 15:52:00 GMT -5
Dunno about Sprouse or Guice, but Siekiewicz himself has testified in interviews to the Adams influence.
At some Comicon I remember someone, maybe Blake Bell, arguing that Ditko visual tropes were borrowed by Kubert.
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Post by benday-dot on Dec 7, 2014 17:55:48 GMT -5
Dunno about Sprouse or Guice, but Siekiewicz himself has testified in interviews to the Adams influence. At some Comicon I remember someone, maybe Blake Bell, arguing that Ditko visual tropes were borrowed by Kubert. Mort Meskin to Steve Ditko to Joe Kubert
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Post by fanboystranger on Dec 7, 2014 20:54:09 GMT -5
Going to throw in a contemporary one, but Byran Talbot's Grandville and Kurt Busiek's Tooth and Claw both have the same creation myth. Granted, Bryan thanks Kurt in his acknowledgements, and it's all still developing, but I suspect collusion.
Not quite what we're looking for, so...
John McCrea pretty much worships Ditko. There's a lot of reference in his work, including a lot of Easter Eggs.
Chris Mooneyham of Five Ghosts pretty much channels Joe Kubert.
Ladronn used to channel Kirby, then started channeling Moebius. Fantastic work all around.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Dec 7, 2014 21:20:10 GMT -5
Ozymandias' scheme in Watchmen bears a strong resemblance to a 1960s episode of The Outer Limits, "The Architects of Fear," which Alan Moore has acknowledged. However, both of those stories are very similar to Harvey Kurtzman's "The Last War on Earth" from 1951's Weird Science #5. In Kurtzman's story, the faked attack reveals the existence of actual aliens who retaliate against Earth.
I believe that there is an even earlier version (or versions) of the story which may have inspired Kurtzman, but it escapes me at the moment and google isn't helping.
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Post by chadwilliam on Dec 7, 2014 21:29:10 GMT -5
I'm surprised at how much of Jerry Robinson's work looks as if it had been drawn by Steve Ditko. I shouldn't really be surprised as Robinson was a teacher of Ditko's, but both have such peculiar talents that it's strange seeing that style in places where it sometimes feels anachronistic. "A golden age Black Terror story drawn by Steve Ditko"? Not to say that Steve Ditko still isn't unique - I heard that the way he draws characters gesturing with their hands up to their faces with the fingers doing that thing they do, is the way Ditko himself articulates.
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Post by thebeastofyuccaflats on Dec 8, 2014 16:11:50 GMT -5
Chris Mooneyham of Five Ghosts pretty much channels Joe Kubert. I see a bit of John Romita Jr., too.
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Post by thebeastofyuccaflats on Dec 8, 2014 16:13:27 GMT -5
And when I was reading the first issue of Crossed+ 100 last week, I saw a bit of Jamal Igle in Gabriel Andrade's art.
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 8, 2014 17:52:58 GMT -5
Brendan McCarthy openly acknowledges being heavily influenced by Ditko with his psychedelic style. No wonder Marvel let him produce his Spider-Man : Fever mini-series, with Dr Strange.
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Post by fanboystranger on Dec 8, 2014 18:03:00 GMT -5
Brendan McCarthy openly acknowledges being heavily influenced by Ditko with his psychedelic style. No wonder Marvel let him produce his Spider-Man : Fever mini-series, with Dr Strange. In his issue of Solo, McCarthy used the pseudonym "Ditranko" for the creator of the stories. You can definitely see the influence of both Ditko and Steranko in his work.
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Post by fanboystranger on Dec 8, 2014 18:06:01 GMT -5
Chris Mooneyham of Five Ghosts pretty much channels Joe Kubert. I see a bit of John Romita Jr., too. I can see that, too.
The funny thing is that everyone sees his father's influence in JRJr's work, but I really see Frank Miller, particularly '80s Miller after he had discovered the work of Hugo Pratt.
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 8, 2014 18:19:46 GMT -5
Brendan McCarthy openly acknowledges being heavily influenced by Ditko with his psychedelic style. No wonder Marvel let him produce his Spider-Man : Fever mini-series, with Dr Strange. In his issue of Solo, McCarthy used the pseudonym "Ditranko" for the creator of the stories. You can definitely see the influence of both Ditko and Steranko in his work. You schooled me fbs ! I can't believe I missed the Steranko angle, which is so obvious.
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Post by fanboystranger on Dec 8, 2014 19:05:25 GMT -5
Speaking of McCarthy, has anyone been reading his serial that's been appearing in DHP? I've been waiting on an eventual collection, but perhaps my favorite comment on it is, "It makes absolutely no sense, but it makes total sense, like everything McCarthy does." There's a tagline for your graphic novel.
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 8, 2014 20:52:42 GMT -5
I've got the complete run of the previous DHP but haven't gotten the new series yet. In case you missed it, The Best of Milligan & McCarthy was recently released. I got this for the Skin graphic novel which I've never been able to find. This story follows the life of Martin Atchitson who grew up in 1970s. He is a Thalidomide child and became a skinhead. This books is a gritty and harsh look on the effect Thalidomide had on many children in England. Intending to be serialized in Britain's Crisis, Fleetway's lawyers advised against publishing it. Later, Kevin Eastman's Tundra reprinted it. So glad Dark Horse collected it along with the rest of this awesome collection. Huge, over-sized 8" x 12" hardcover of 264 pages of magic and a steal at $ 24.99.
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Post by Pól Rua on Dec 9, 2014 3:11:24 GMT -5
I always thought that Marcos Martin was the answer to 'What If... Steve Rude had been inspired more by Ditko than by Kirby?'
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