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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 19, 2021 18:14:12 GMT -5
The 1st time THE ABOMINATION fought The Hulk, he kicked his A**. Left him laying there unconscious, lookng half-dead. Two words: "GIL KANE".
And logically that should happen 9 times out of 10, given the way the Abomination character was defined. But then they invented an out for the Hulk and themse;ves with this idea that "angry Hulk" gets stonger basically to infinity: it's as bad as Superman, in its own way, or Batman always having the upper hand on everyone, no matter what.
In Tales to Astonish #91 (May 1967) I think it was stated that the Abomination was stronger than the Hulk, and the Hulk got his strength increased to a level greater than the Abomination in this issue due to a gamma ray infusion.
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 18, 2021 16:03:17 GMT -5
In Hulk 314 Doc Samson knocked out Hulk. Though this was done through trickery, Laying out Hulk is still laying Hulk. I wonder if a better question has the Hulk ever been beat down when he was at 100%? Good question. Hopefully somebody here can answer that for us!
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 18, 2021 16:02:47 GMT -5
This. Epic. One. Where is that from?
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 18, 2021 13:00:05 GMT -5
It's a rare sight for the Hulk to get physically beaten. As Hulk likes to tell everybody "Hulk is the strongest one there is!". So how many examples can we think of of the Hulk getting knocked out by an opponent? I don't mean getting put to sleep (like with gas) or magically changed back to Banner (e.g., Dr. Strange) or turned back to Banner with the power cosmic (Silver Surfer) but just simply knocked unconscious by an opponent.
I recently rea Iron Man #132 where the Hulk was staggered by taking the brunt of a huge explosion (a lear jet smashing into a fuel truck) and then Iron Man overide the safeties in his circuits to put all of his power into one punch, knocking the Hulk unconscious.
Can anyone think of any other examples? I'm sure there are more, but offhand I can't remember any.
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 18, 2021 10:09:13 GMT -5
I read Avengers #11 & 12. I am missing Kirby's plotting more than his art. #11 is another goofy one, with Kang for some reason creating a Spider-Man robot to destroy the Avengers. That works about as well as you'd expect. #12 is better, with Mole Man causing trouble (and the Red Ghost thrown in for good measure) but still no prize winner.
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 17, 2021 17:04:27 GMT -5
I realized that this is Klordny Week, so Happy Klordny Week, everyone! Let's go dance on some floating platforms to celebrate!
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 17, 2021 14:02:14 GMT -5
I read The Avengers #10. This one was a stinker. It starts with a cool opening scene with Captain America training against the rest of the Avengers, but then we go to Immortus making his debut, teaming up with the Masters of Evil. So much silliness here that I don't feel like getting into it. I also didn't like the Heck/Ayers art as much in this one.
Also, in trying to read through all the Hulk-Thing fights, I read Incredible Hulk #122. Pretty good story & art, but not much of a Hulk-Thing fight.
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 17, 2021 6:08:43 GMT -5
Good timing for this thread, as I have started re-reading through all of my Avengers. I'll go from #1 through about 350. I'm up to #9 right now. As far as I'm concerned, there aren't really any notable bad stretches for the first 299 issues, until the Avengers jump the shark. Anyway, this was my first ever issue of the Avengers:
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 16, 2021 13:58:32 GMT -5
I read Avengers #8-9.
Avengers #8 features the debut of Kang the Conqueror. While I remember his second appearance (with Ravonna) as being outstanding his debut is nothing special. Just typical supervillain fare. Avengers #9 features the debut of Wonder Man. I think this one is really good. I love Wonder Man's selfless sacrifice at the end.
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 15, 2021 12:18:12 GMT -5
I think this is my first comic: and this is my first DC comic: And this is my first Marvel comic:
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 15, 2021 11:09:36 GMT -5
I read Justice League of America #29-30 - the second JLA/JSA team-up. This introduces earth-3 and the Crime Syndicate of America. I love earth-3 and the CSA, but this story was very flawed. For one thing, more dues ex machina powers courtesy of Power Ring and Green Lantern. Power Ring transported the JLA to their headquarters and stuck them to their table?! Why the heck didn't he do that earlier? I don't think I like Green Lantern in the Gardner Fox JLA stories, because he just have Green Lantern do whatever the story required. Also, the way the JLA beat the CSA in the end was pretty silly. They gave the CSA too much power! For instance, Superman tricked Ultraman (who is like Superman except that he gains a new superpower each time he's exposed to green kryptonite - in fact he exposed himself to green kryptonite twice in the previous issue, gaining a new power each time) into flying into green kryptonite but for some reason, this now gave him too much power. All of his super powers were competing with each other, and he couldn't move. Pretty silly. Oh well. Plus the JSA didn't do much in this one, and there wasn't much of a team-up. Better luck with the next JLA/JSA team-up.
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 14, 2021 18:39:25 GMT -5
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 14, 2021 12:52:10 GMT -5
I was just reading The Making of Star Wars, and the bonus content in the enhanced edition has a series of profiles that Lucas apparently told in 1975 to an interviewer (Carole Titelman), and some of it is rather interesting. It is background information on several characters and situations, which never made it into the movies. One particularly interesting thing is that Lucas mentions midi-chlorians in the body's cells as being the source of one's knowledge to the Force. That is interesting food for thought for those that hated the introduction of midi-chlorians in The Phantom Menace. Also mentioned is that C3-Po is actually 112 years old, and while serving on one particularly hostile planet, his body basically broke down. He was "totally reassembled by a young boy who worked for a junk dealer". I always hated that Annakin "made" Threepio, and had always suspected that he'd actually simply rebuilt him from existing parts rather than making him from scratch, and it looks like Lucas's old description matches that idea perfectly. I still don't like the idea that Annakin/Vader "built" Threepio, as it ties everybody in the Saga together too closely and makes the Star Wars Universe smaller for no good reason, but at least this is an improvement on the idea that a 9 year old boy, however smart, built something as sophisticated as Threepio from scratch.
Edit: Oh, and it also confirmed what I had read in Bantha Tracks - that the reason Chewie didn't get a medal in Star Wars is because wookiees don't care about medals. It goes on to say that, afterwards, his friends went with him back to his home planet for a celebration. Oh, and he also mentions that there are female stormtroopers, though not many.
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 14, 2021 12:34:20 GMT -5
I read Justice League of America #21-22: the first JLA/JSA team-up! I love those JLA/JSA team-ups. I think they're the highlight of Justice League of America, vol. 1. This was a good one. Not great, but good and certainly historic. For all the flaws in the Gardner Fox stories (and there are plenty, including dues ex machinas aplenty and plot holes) I really have to give him credit for doing an excellent job of getting the heroes to work together. He finds clever ways for their powers to compliment each other. I think that a common failing of the team books is the characters not acting as a team, but just taking on bad guys one on one, but Gardner gets past that better than most.
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Post by dbutler69 on Aug 14, 2021 5:46:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I adore those Kirby, then Heck issues of which I can go back and read any time. I can honestly say I enjoy the 1st 198 issues of Avengers. Even with those few minor clunker's in the run, overall there is quite a lot to enjoy. TONS of thrills and action of heroes/villains for your collecting pleasure. Talk about an explosion of colorful costumed characters to choose from. Avengers has you covered. I actually enjoy the first 299 issues of the Avengers, excepting #200 and a couple of clunkers (usually fill-in issues) in there.
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