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Post by Confessor on Aug 15, 2024 4:32:38 GMT -5
Recent jazz purchases inspired by comments in this thread. The Very Best of Louis Armstrong was recommended to me by Slam_Bradley, Herbie Hancock's Maiden Voyage was recommended by supercat, and Midnight Blue by Kenny Burrell was recommended by Spotify (booooo...!!) when I was listening to Maiden Voyage. Sonny Clark's Cool Struttin' just looked good, with a very cool cover...and having given it a spin, I like it a lot. Thanks for the recommendations, guys.
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Post by Confessor on Aug 14, 2024 17:30:18 GMT -5
The thread I posted has direct quotes from Ditko plainly saying that he planned it from the start, he put the Goblin into Jonah's club and Goblin Jr. into Pete's college because he thought it would make for interesting stories. There's also a quote from Romita saying that Stan originally wanted Ned Leeds to be the Goblin but Steve made that impossible. I must say, the source linked to in the first post of that thread (a contemporary fanzine interview with John Romita from 1966) is certainly compelling. I can't imagine any reason for Romita to not tell the truth regarding Ditko's intention to have always had the Green Goblin be Norman Osborn, and intentionally planting him in Jonah's club and Harry Osborn into Peter Parker's college. Romita's memory would certainly have still been fresh then. I mean, I know he's repeating stuff he heard from other workers at Marvel, such as Marie Severin, but again, why would Severin and the like lie about it? This aligns with Cei-U!'s suggestion that Stan Lee was later misremembering the disagreement with Ditko, and it was actually over some other character, such as the Crime Master. It also explains why, in the Goblin's first appearance in ASM #14, Ditko was so deliberately trying to hide his real face. Like I say, it's so blatant that I can't believe Ditko didn't already know that the mystery of the Goblin's identity was going to be a big thing in the comic going forward. Really interesting stuff. Thanks for pushing me to check out that thread, Rob.
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Post by Confessor on Aug 14, 2024 16:10:23 GMT -5
supercat Slam_Bradley That makes three of us who got introduced to the legend of Robert Johnson by the movie Crossroads then.
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Post by Confessor on Aug 14, 2024 12:36:20 GMT -5
I know all about the later controversy about Steve Ditko allegedly wanting the Green Goblin to be someone readers didn't know, while Stan Lee wanted him to be one of the supporting cast members, but I'm not sure a really buy that. There are some answers here: classiccomics.org/thread/6091/green-goblin-norman-osborn-ditkosI remember that thread, but the thread title "PSA: Green Goblin/Norman Osborn was Ditko's idea" is extremely off-putting. Zero objectivity there!
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Post by Confessor on Aug 14, 2024 12:34:54 GMT -5
I'm assuming you know that is Ike Turner and his Kings of Rhythm providing the back-up on Rocket 88. There are a lot of claims that Turner was heavily involved in writing the song. Yes, I did know that. However, what I have discovered today is what a "Rocket 88" looks like. As you will doubtless already know, it was an Oldsmobile 88, which had a Rocket V8 engine. Obviously, I realised that it was a car of somesort, but had no idea what it looked like or who manufactured it. So yeah...beautiful looking old thing. Here's an Oldsmobile 88 from 1950, which must be close to what Jackie Brenston and Ike Turner had in mind when they wrote the song...
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Post by Confessor on Aug 14, 2024 12:28:38 GMT -5
#1 - Robert Johnson – The Complete Recordings Ha! Yeah...I absolutely knew this was coming. You'll get no arguments from me about the quality or worth of this one. Just absolutely amazing, primal, stuff-of-life music, this.
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Post by Confessor on Aug 14, 2024 12:19:35 GMT -5
THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 14 (reprinted in Marvel Tales 152) The cover gets flipped, and the Hulk’s picture is omitted, to make room for the UPC box. There's also some missing stalactites which gives us a better, clearer view of the Green Goblin. Here's the cover of ASM #14… This is the first appearance of the Green Goblin. His true identity will continue to be a mystery for some time, and he’ll go on to become one of Spider-man’s deadliest foes. I know all about the later controversy about Steve Ditko allegedly wanting the Green Goblin to be someone readers didn't know, while Stan Lee wanted him to be one of the supporting cast members, but I'm not sure a really buy that. In this first appearance, the intention is clearly to hide the Goblin's identity from the readers, undoubtedly for a big reveal later down the line. Ditko's artwork very deliberately obscures the Goblin's face whenever he's got his mask off, especially in that panel where he's changing back into his civilian identity and the locker door is covering his face – that's just blatant… To me it's plain that Lee and Ditko always intended to tease the readers with the mystery of the Goblin's identity. Why else would they set up that guessing game, if it's not ultimately going to be someone who the reader's already know? Also, Stan's blurb on the cover and even in the way in which the story immediately focuses on the Goblin from the very first panel says to me that Lee absolutely knew that this was going to be an important villain. He's signalling to the readership that here is a bad guy who is out of the ordinary! For me, that just lends further weight to the suggestion that both the creators knew this was a villain whose secret identity was going to become a big feature of the comic. On a related subject, if we assume that Lee and Ditko did always intended the Goblin to be one of the supporting cast members, does anyone have any wild theories about who it was intended to be at this early stage? Obviously, Norman Osborn hasn't been introduced yet – and won't be for another two years (in ASM #37). So, I have a hard time believing that it was always going to be him. I think it's much more likely that Stan and Steve were intending the Goblin to be somebody who had already been introduced in the first fifteen Spider-Man comics (including AF #15). It's clearly a male. It's also clearly someone with enough money for a secret basement laboratory. And its somebody with the technical smarts to create a flying electric broomstick and stun-grenades. Thoughts? This early issue offers barely any clues to who the Goblin is, other than the fact he’s a guy in a mask, and has some type of mechanical expertise, since he’s shown working on his “Flying Broomstick” himself. Eventually the Broomstick will be replaced by his more famous Bat Glider for later appearances, and though he’s shown hurling stun bombs, it’s not clear if they’re shaped like pumpkins at this point. The electric broomstick sucks ass! I've always disliked it and I have a real problem with the fact that it looks impossible to ride: how does the Goblin stay on that thing?! The later bat-glider is a much better idea and looks way cooler. I don't think the Goblin is hurling pumpkin bombs yet; these are just stun-grenades. The fight scene in the cave is pretty cool, and Ditko does some interesting work with the shadows to establish the mood. I agree. This sequence is really well drawn by Ditko. This issue, of course features a guest appearance by the Incredible Hulk because two green and purple Marvel characters are better than one! Spidey and Hulk are my favorite Marvel characters, and the Green Goblin is my favorite villain, so having them all in one place is awesome! I'm not a big Hulk fan, generally, but he's OK. However, he just feels unnecessarily shoehorned into this issue. There's no reason at all why you need to have him appear other than to attract fans of the character to the Spider-Man comic. Still, his interactions with Spidey are pretty entertaining. Overall, I really like this issue. It's a bit silly, yes, but its also a lot of fun and historically important for introducing a villain who will soon become Spider-Man's arch-enemy. I really like the Green Goblin and, while this isn't anywhere near his best appearance, it's still a good enough debut. The movie producer B.J. Cosmos is a suitably over-the-top satire of Hollywood (I bet this is Ditko's doing!), while the Enforcers are much more entertaining than they were in their first appearance in ASM #10. All in all, this is one of my favourite issues of the Lee/Ditko run. Good stuff.
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Post by Confessor on Aug 14, 2024 8:06:43 GMT -5
#1 Surf-Age Nuggets: Trash and Twang Instrumentals 1959-1966 I am quite partial to the twangy and tremolo-laden sound of surf instrumentals, but as you mentioned in your write up, they do tend to get a bit samey if you listen to too many in a row. So, this is almost certainly waaaay too much surf guitar for me, but I love that sets like this exist for enthusiasts like yourself.
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Post by Confessor on Aug 14, 2024 7:31:52 GMT -5
OK, finishing up my Top 10 favourite box sets. It's been great fun doing this, guys... #1 - The Sun Records Collection by Various Artists (1994) This is actually one of two 3 CD box sets of Sun Records recordings that I own. Surprisingly, there is very little crossover in the song selection between the two sets – which only goes to show how many quality recordings Sam Philips' label put out in the '50s and early '60s. Of the two sets, Rhino's The Sun Records Collection is by far the best, especially if you are only in the market for one Sun box set. Running to 74 tracks, this set collects all the key rockabilly and rock 'n' roll recordings that you'd expect from the likes of Johnny Cash, Elvis Presley, Carl Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis, Roy Orbison etc. But it also focuses on the slightly earlier blues sides that Philips cut with such legends as Howlin' Wolf, B.B. King, Sleepy John Estes, Rufus Thomas etc. There are also some lesser-known acts here too, and the music from these slightly less well-known musicians is almost always top notch. There's an earthiness and an honesty to the music that Philips recorded at Sun Studios that I love. The blues recordings here sound as raw and thick as Mississippi mud, while the slightly later rockabilly material has a taught sexuality to it. Overall, this is just a killer box set if you're at all interested in this kind of music. Across its three discs, it provides an excellent overview of a record label that played a pivotal role in the birth of popular music as we know it. Here's "Rocket 88" by Jackie Brenston, one of the earliest jump blues records Sam Philips recorded at Sun (though it was issued on Chess)… And here's Elvis Presley doing "Mystery Train", which is probably my favourite Elvis record…
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Post by Confessor on Aug 14, 2024 5:57:27 GMT -5
- I am pretty much amazed by these early Spider-Man stories! You could basically take those stories and make a movie or TV series out of them, right away, without even changing much! I'd love to see a period drama TV version of these early Lee/Ditko Spider-Man stories, set in the early '60s with all the period attention to detail and realism of a series like Mad Men. I'd watch the hell out of that.
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Post by Confessor on Aug 13, 2024 14:54:55 GMT -5
Here's todays entry in our ongoing run down of Top 10 box sets... #2 - Singles Collection: The London Years by The Rolling Stones (1989) This 3-disc box set gathers together the A-sides and B-sides of every 7" single that the Rolling Stones released between 1963 and 1971 – all presented in their proper '60s mono mixes (except for 6 or 7 later tracks, which were issued in stereo). The timeframe covered by this set is when the band were signed to Decca/London Records, hence the collection's subtitle. By presenting all of the band's singles in chronological order, this set makes for an exhilarating listening experience, as each classic hit and lesser-heard B-side stacks up to illustrate the Stones' relentless evolution from R&B purists, through their experiments with Baroque pop and psychedelia, and finally to the blues and country-tinged rock of the final disc. Personally, I've always felt that the Stones' early albums were a little patchy (certainly up until 1968's Beggar's Banquet), so viewing the band through the prism of their singles is perhaps a better way to appreciate their brilliance. They were, after all, one of the great singles bands, as this set amply demonstrates. But the thing I really love about this compilation – other than it being chock-full of great music, I mean – is that it carries the spirit of mid-60s Swinging London like nothing else. I've talked earlier in this thread about music that makes you feel nostalgic for a time that you've never known, and this is absolutely one of those collections for me. Here's the Stones' version of the Lennon/McCartney song "I Wanna Be Your Man", which – even as a massive Beatles fan – I have to admit blows the Beatles' version out of the water… And here's "Child of the Moon", the B-side of "Jumpin' Jack Flash", in all its drugged-up, late-60s mono glory…
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Post by Confessor on Aug 13, 2024 14:05:23 GMT -5
#2 - Atlantic Rhythm and Blues 1947-1974
That must be a great box set. 8 CDs does seem big, but I can also quite believe that the track listing justifies that size. As you say, there's a lot of crossover between Stax and Atlantic on compilations...and I must say that, in my mind, the two labels are kind of synonymous with each other, even though I know that's not really the case. But yeah, you invariably get some Stax tracks on any "Atlantic soul" compilation. Great pick. #2 Chet Atkins - The Early Years 1946-1957
Embarrassingly, I'm fairly ignorant of Chet Atkins' music, which is especially bad for a Beatles' fan to admit, when you consider what an influence he was on George Harrison's guitar playing. Of course, I know him as a session player and producer on hits by the likes of the Everly Brothers, Jim Reeves, Don Gibson, and Elvis Presley, among others, but in terms of his own music, I only really know "Yakety Axe" (which for people of my generation will forever be the Benny Hill Show theme) and his 1967 album Chet, which I just happen to own. I have watched random videos of him on YouTube on occasion though, and always marvelled at his guitar technique. But yeah...I know very little of his music.
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Post by Confessor on Aug 13, 2024 9:56:55 GMT -5
THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 13 (reprinted in Marvel Tales 151 ) A significant portion of the cover gets omitted to make room for the UPC box. At least my latest copy is a direct edition with a cool pic of Spidey, but still it's sad to see any piece of Ditko art get discarded like that! Here's the cover of Amazing Spider-Man #13 for comparison… Spider-man caught in the act, committing a crime is definitely the type of news story J.Jonah Jameson lives for. That's a great Steve Ditko splash page of "Spidey" running away from the robbery, with a bag full of stolen cash in his hand. It's probably one of Ditko's best of the entire run IMHO. This is the first appearance of special effects man turned super-villain Mysterio who will return time and time again to mess with Spidey. I have kind of a love/hate relationship with Mysterio. I love his costume (goldfish bowl helmet and all) and consider it to be one of Ditko's best and most memorable designs. Likewise, the idea of a disgruntled and criminally minded special effects expert is a very original idea for a villain. Trouble is, I really have a hard time suspending disbelief enough to accept that Mysterio's "powers" or tricks could work in the way they are shown to on the page. That isn't just something particular to this issue either – I have trouble buying into Mysterio's abilities in all of his appearances! He’s unmasked and his origin is revealed right here in this issue, but it will be quite some time before the readers learn his real name: Quintin Beck. It’s not mentioned in any of his appearances until his profile in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe in the 1980s. Heh! Now that I didn't know. Good Spidey-trivia there, jtrw2024. There have been Spider-man imposters in these pages before, but this one definitely takes things to the next level. In ASM 1, the Chameleon only needed to fool the guy he was robbing, plus a few security guards and police officers. Flash Thompson was a little more convincing when he managed to fool Dr. Doom in ASM 5, and Doom's the smartest villain in the Marvel Universe! Mysterio is the only Spidey imposter who manages to fool... Peter himself! I think the key difference here is that Mysterio is much more convincing as Spider-Man, just by dint of his being able to scale sheer walls and swing over the rooftops on a web line. The Chameleon just donned the Spider-Man costume and used a web-shooting gun: there were no death-defying acrobatics or feats performed by him. However, it's interesting that Peter has seemingly forgotten all about the Chameleon having impersonated him in Amazing Spider-Man #1. In this issue he says, "It couldn't have been an imposter! Nobody else can shoot a web as I do – or climb sheer walls". As I say, the sheer wall climbing is way beyond what the Chameleon did, but Peter has forgotten that a previous imposter did shoot webs (albeit from a gun). Clearly the events of ASM #1 had slipped Stan Lee's mind. Some good action in this issue, both with Spider-man and Mysterio's first confrontation on the Brooklyn Bridge, then the big final battle at the movie studio in the middle of a sci-fi film shoot! You can tell Ditko is having a ball drawing this issue. Mysterio's illusions are right up his alley and, as kirby101 pointed out earlier, the scenes where Spider-Man is fighting Mysterio in the film studio are simply fantastic.
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Post by Confessor on Aug 13, 2024 8:11:40 GMT -5
#3 - Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the First Psychedelic Era 1965-1968 by Various Artists (1998) This 4 CD box set was an attempt by Rhino Records to expand on Lenny Kaye's seminal 1972 Nuggets compilation album, which collected rare or forgotten American psychedelic and garage rock singles from the 1960s. The original 27 track double LP occupies disc 1 of this set, while discs 2–4 feature 91 similarly punky sounding recordings from the same era. Despite its title, very little of this set is actually psychedelic; it generally leans much more towards garage rock and hard rhythm 'n' blues. It is mostly played by young, middle class white guys who just about knew three or four guitar chords, but who – in the wake of the Beatles, the Stones and the rest of British Invasion – discovered the joys of making noisy electric rock 'n' roll with guitars, bass, organ and drums. Across its 108 tracks – by such bands as the Seeds, the Count Five, the 13th Floor Elevators, the Standells, and the Electric Prunes, to name just a fraction of the acts covered here – this set reverberates with primal, youthful energy and a wonderful sense of fun. Track after brilliant track is coloured by explosions of fuzztone guitar, sneering vocals, and Farfisa organ. In fact, this music's influence on the late '70s punk scene is plain for all to hear. Here's the Standells' surly-sounding ode to Boston, "Dirty Water"… And here's the Chocolate Watchband with "Sweet Young Thing", which is more "Stonesy" than the Rolling Stones ever were!
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Post by Confessor on Aug 12, 2024 13:50:52 GMT -5
Hope you find this helpful. Absolutely! It aligns with what I had assumed: that Peter is about 16 in issues #8-10, which is when his romance with Betty Brant really starts. Betty says in ASM #9 that she left school a year ago and because of New York's compulsory education laws she would have had to have been at least 16...meaning that she must be at least 17 in ASM #9. However, Betty could've been 17 or even 18 when she left school, which would make her 18 or 19 in ASM #9; there's no way to be sure. But whichever way you slice it, Betty is between 1 year and 3 years older than Peter when they are dating. Thanks for that timeline, Kurt. This is exactly the kind of nerdy comics conversation I come here for!!
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