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Post by Confessor on Apr 17, 2024 14:14:55 GMT -5
Yes I know that song now I hear it again, not sure I ever knew the title or the name of the band. Great tune. Is the rest of their stuff as good as the hit single? Oh yeah, if you like that song you will definitely enjoy the rest of The Sundays stuff. It's very representative of their music generally.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 17, 2024 12:33:01 GMT -5
McLaren released Carmen as a single? Didn't know that. What an error in judgement (says I with my vast experience as a record company executive) - any one of the others would have been better. I think I've heard a few individual tracks from Ducks but no the whole album. I'll have to give it a listen to see for sure, it's been so long. I like MBV a lot, though Loveless was the only album I actually heard at the time it came out. I've managed to find several of their other cds since then over the years, though I see fro their discography I'm missing their 2013 comeback album. I don't think I've heard anything of Slowdive or the Sundays, but I like this kind of thing so I'll be keeping an eye out for their stuff now. Yeah, "Carmen" was a single (at least here in the UK), but you're verdict of that being "an error in judgement" is probably a good one since it missed the charts completely (Wikipedia tells me that it actually got to #79). The My Bloody Valentine comeback album from 2013 is pretty good, though not as good as Loveless, predictably, or even Isn't Anything for that matter. But if you're already "on the bus" with the band, which you are, you'll find plenty to enjoy there. As for The Sundays, I'm sure you'll have heard "Here's Where the Story Ends", which is a fantastic song and was a bit of an "indie disco hit" in 1991 (Wikipedia tells me it was a number 1 on the U.S. Alternative Chart). I'd be surprised if you'd not heard this.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 17, 2024 12:04:16 GMT -5
Hey, Slam_Bradley , berkley , and EdoBosnar , I'm just drawing up my 1994 list and I'm wondering if it's OK to include live albums in our yearly lists? Or is it best we limit it to studio albums only? I'm not generally a fan of live albums, but there are a few exceptions (one of which came out in '94). But by their very nature, live albums almost always feature songs from across a band's whole career, so they aren't representative of a set period in that artist's history like a studio album is. Thoughts? I'm fine with live albums and have included a few. If I were to go back in the the 60s (which I might at some point) "At Folsom Prison," "At San Quentin" and "Okie From Muskogee" would almost certainly make my lists for their respective years. Jerry Jeff Walker's "Viva Terlingua" which was on my list for 1973 is technically a live album, though it doesn't quite feel like one. I suppose the thing this, any live album chosen should probably be a contemporary release though, in terms of it having been recorded at a recent gig, rather than an archival release of an old gig. Like, David Bowie's Santa Monica '72 came out in 1994, but it captures a gig from 22 years earlier, so that shouldn't be eligable as a 1994 album for the purposes of our lists. But Bob Marley's Live! is fine (if you choose it for 1975) because it was recorded at a gig 4 months before it was released.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 17, 2024 11:43:13 GMT -5
Hey, Slam_Bradley, berkley, and EdoBosnar, I'm just drawing up my 1994 list and I'm wondering if it's OK to include live albums in our yearly lists? Or is it best we limit it to studio albums only? I'm not generally a fan of live albums, but there are a few exceptions (one of which came out in '94). But by their very nature, live albums almost always feature songs from across a band's whole career, so they aren't representative of a set period in that artist's history like a studio album is. Thoughts?
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Post by Confessor on Apr 17, 2024 10:27:00 GMT -5
Fantastic choice! I'm so glad to see somebody else choose this album because it only narrowly mised my Top 10. The track "Madame Butterfly" is worth the price of admission alone, it's just a stunning piece of work. But there are plenty of other enjoyable opera/dance pop fusions to enjoy too ("Boys Chorus" and "Death of Butterfly" are other stand out tracks for me). I know what you mean about "Carmen"; I'm not sure I'd go as far as you and call it an out-and-out "dud", but it was certainly a disappointing follow-up single to the sublime "Madame Butterfly". Do you know McLaren's previous album Duck Rock? That's much more hip-hop flavoured, though combined with lots of World Music elements, such as South African Township Jive and Colombian dance bands. It's a really interesting listen; "Buffalo Gals" and "Double Dutch" were the two big hits from it over here in the UK, but I don't know if they did much in the U.S.? Treasure - the Cocteau Twins I'm not massively knowledgeable about the Cocteau Twins, but there's the odd song of theirs that I know, such as "Heaven or Las Vegas" and "Bluebeard". Really, for me I know them more as a band that influenced a lot of the shoegaze and jangly indie bands that I love, such as My Bloody Valentine, Slowdive, and the Sundays. 1984.4 A Pagan Place - the WaterboysLike you, I got into the Waterboys via the Fisherman's Blues album in 1988 and I only went back and started investigating their earlier stuff in the 2000s. To be honest, my investigation of their earlier stuff is limited to the compilation album The Best of The Waterboys '81–'90, so I don't the A Pagan Place album in its entirety. The songs from that album that I do know are "The Big Music" and "All The Things She Gave Me". I really like the song you posted, "A Pagan Place", on first listen. Reckoning - R.E.M Confessor already posted So. Central Rain so I'll go with Don't Go Back to Rockville, which has more of a country swing to it than most of their material: Reckoning is a cracking good album. I love "(Don't Go Back to) Rockville" too. Broadcasting from Home - the Penguin Café Orchestra I know this! This is the music from the end of the film Napolean Dynamite, though it's not the same version. Can't say I've heard of the Penguin Café Orchestra, is this similar to their other stuff?
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Post by Confessor on Apr 17, 2024 8:49:14 GMT -5
#11 – The Brian Setzer Orchestra – The Brian Setzer Orchestra
I don't know this album, but Brian Setzer is a dude, so I'm sure it'd be worth a listen. I know the Stray Cats 80s stuff reasonably well, due in large part to a teenage friend having been a fairly big fan. Given the retro roots of his Stray Cats stuff, I guess having Setzer do a swing album with a big band must've seemed like a bit of a no-brainer.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 17, 2024 8:29:43 GMT -5
And my all-time favourite album from 1984 is... #1 - Hatful of Hollow by The SmithsI like all The Smiths most popular songs but have never gotten into their albums, for no particular reason. Sounds like this might be the best one for me to start with and I'll be having a look for it soon.
Oh man, Hatful of Hollow is just one of those "bury me with this album" type of records for me. A real "soundtrack of my life" kind of album. You really can't go wrong with it...though, as I mentioned, many fans don't consider it a bona fide Smiths album, due to its contents coming from different sources -- radio sessions, recent non-album singles, new studio recordings etc. But all of its contents (except one song) were committed to tape within a 14 month period, and there are plenty of albums by other acts with recordings spread out over a similar period or even longer. So, if that's the criteria we use to define an album by, then Let It Be ain't a proper Beatles album either! I had taped singles like "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now", "William, It Was Really Nothing" and "How Soon is Now?" off the radio in 1984, but I didn't actually buy Hatful of Hollow until 1987, when I picked it up on cassette. Once I heard it in its entirety it was instantly my new favourite album at that time. It was a hugely influential album for me in terms of my songwriting too (if I may flatter myself to mention my own songs in the same sentence as Morrissey and Marr ). I actually own three copies of this album these days: a pristine first UK vinyl pressing from 1984, a CD reissue from 1993, and my original old, battered, well-loved cassette. Definitely find yourself a copy, you won't be sorry you did.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 17, 2024 8:03:45 GMT -5
I never had any Prince albums but I liked the 1999 album, which I heard at a friend's house. I would probably like this one too, since all the hits were good. Maybe I got a little tired of it on the radio. He was a huge talent, undoubtedly. I have a bad impression of him as a person because of some story I heard about him involving Sinead O'Connor. I think he was certainly a very complex person. And not a little strange too, to be brutally honest. I'm not sure what story you are referring to regarding Sinead O'Connor, but I know in the 2000s he developed a bit of a dislike of other artists covering his material, regardless of the songwriting royalties it brought him. That always struck me as a bit weird insofar as he was being financially compensated for those covers and also because he was an artist who regularly gave songs away to other acts -- and, in fact, "Nothing Compares 2 U" was given to The Family years before O'Connor recorded it (if that is the gist of the story that you're referring to?). Myself, I loved Prince back in the '80s and still do...but only up to a point. I enjoy and own all of his albums (and several bootlegs) from his debut in 1978 up to the point in 1993 where he changed his name to "symbol" or The Artist Formerly Known As Prince. His last couple of albums prior to that -- Love Symbol and Come -- were patchy as hell, but I drew the line when he released the God-awful "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World" single. That song was a piece of cheesy sh*t unbefitting of an artist of Prince's magnitude and I never bought another album by him. Still, there was a golden period from between, say, 1980's Dirty Mind album and Diamonds and Pearls in 1991 where his output was incredibly good and incredibly prolific.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 16, 2024 12:50:43 GMT -5
5. Sade – Diamond LifeSade’s debut album, which immediately put her and her band on the map. It has a number of their more popular songs and still stands as one of the all-time great smooth jazz albums (together with 1985’s Promise – which, if I’m being honest, I like a bit better). I only know the two hit singles from this: "Your Love is King" and "Smooth Operator". This kind of smooth "sophisti-pop" isn't really my cup of tea, but those two singles are excellent examples of the sub-genre and Sade herself certainly has a fantastic voice. I know the album is very well regarded among audiophiles too because it's a beautifuly produced and engineered album. 4. Frankie Goes to Hollywood – Welcome to the Pleasuredome3. U2 – The Unforgettable Fire2. Prince – Purple Rain Clearly I'm not gonna argue with any of those three choices. Three great albums which provide a glimpse at just how diverse sounding mid-80s pop/rock could actually be.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 15, 2024 22:23:41 GMT -5
And my all-time favourite album from 1984 is... #1 - Hatful of Hollow by The SmithsManchester band The Smiths are simply one of the most important and influential British bands of the last 50 years and I will die on that hill. Their impact on UK indie guitar bands and alternative rock in general is hard to overstate. They are also easily one of my Top 10 all-time favourite musical acts ever. Hatful of Hollow was the band's second album, but it's a bit of a weird one and very often not really considered a "proper" Smiths album. Though in my book it is absolutely a legitimate album by the group. What happened was that the band (along with some fans and critics) were disappointed with the slightly sterile, "polished" sound of their debut album. The band's radio sessions from this era had presented a lot of the same material in far more lively and passionate renditions. The idea was hatched to issue some of these radio sessions, as a way of addressing the criticism that the production on the Smith's debut album was receiving from some quarters. These radio tracks were accompanied by some newly recorded material, recent non-album singles that the band had issued since their debut album, a few B-sides, and the original single version of "Hand in Glove" (which was again far superior to the weaker version found on their debut LP). The result was Hatful of Hollow, a brilliant, sixteen track summation of what it was that made the Smiths so special in their earliest period. Classic UK hits like the wistful, but venomous "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" – a song that lyrically straddles the blurred line between loneliness and misanthropy – and "William, It Was Really Nothing", sit beside all-time classic Smiths tracks like "How Soon Is Now?" (the song that even people who don't like the Smiths like!) and "Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want". Other stand out tracks – and this is an album consisting entirely of stand-out tracks, in my opinion – would be "This Night Has Opened My Eyes", "Still Ill", and "Back to the Old House". The band's debut single "Hand in Glove" is a contender for 'Greatest love song ever written', as far as I'm concerned, with a rollicking musical backing and beautifully honest lyrics, which capture the intense, self-involved rush of romantic infatuation – " Hand in glove, the sun shines out of our behinds/No, it's not like any other love/This one is different, because it's us." Since it contains vastly superior renditions of key songs from the band's debut album, I have always thought that a good case could be made for treating Hatful of Hollow as the Smiths' debut proper, while bypassing the first album altogether. Like, this is the band's debut 2.0. Anyway, here's the single edit of the majestic and hypnotic "How Soon Is Now?", which I guess is probably the most famous song from the album…
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Post by Confessor on Apr 15, 2024 21:22:09 GMT -5
#1 – Los Lobos – How Will the Wolf Survive
I don't know a ton of Los Lobos' stuff, but you can't really go too far wrong with their late '80s output. Like the majority of folks, I suspect, my first exposure to them was via their 1987 smash hit cover of "La Bamba" from the Ritchie Valens biopic of the same name. They had another hit with a Valens cover here in the UK with "Come On, Let's Go", taken from the same film soundtrack, of course. I remember hearing the band's '87 album By the Light of the Moon several times back in the day, but I'm not sure much of it really sticks in my head all these years later, though it was always a fun album to listen to.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 15, 2024 20:36:20 GMT -5
For the longest time I thought that they just threw boxes of tea bags into the harbor, not these logs I've seen this before on the internet and I'm pretty sure it's incorrect. Please allow a descendant of your former Colonial overlords to teach you damn Yankees a thing or two about the Boston Tea Party... Aside from the fact that many contemporary or near-contemporary illustrations of the Boston Tea Party clearly show it being loose leaf tea that was tipped into Boston harbour, the British East India Company, who owned the ships in question, did not import tea in bricks like those in that picture. All the tea they imported from India and China etc was loose leaf and stored in wooden tea chests. In addition, several accounts of the incident mention the protestors not only tipping the tea into the water from the decks of the ships, but also piling up mounds of tea leaves along the dockside. These were then pushed into the harbour using rakes and brooms. You cannot really create mounds of tea with tea bricks. The actual tea that was thrown into the water in Boston was almost exclusively Bohea (pronounced "boo-hee"), which, though barely known today, was by far the most popular tea to drink in Colonial America. It was popular largely because it was pretty cheap compared to other types of tea. There were also smaller quantities of green tea seized and destroyed by the protestors, but it was mostly Bohea that went into the water. I know all of this because I went down a bit of a Boston Tea Party rabbit hole after visiting the site of the incident in 2018 and I read quite a lot about the protest. As part of my research, I sourced some Bohea tea (it's kinda hard to find nowadays, as barely anybody in the West drinks it any more), but it turns out that it's rather lovely. It's a very smooth and refreshing tea, with a distinctive smokey flavour. These days, I always keep a tin of Bohea in my house and drink it with reasonable regularity. Yours sincerely, The British.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 15, 2024 7:46:08 GMT -5
8. Don Henley – Building the Perfect BeastThis one surprised me as a 1984 release, because I so associate it with my senior year of high school, 1985/86, when several songs from it were played extensively on most top 40 and AOR radio stations (it was in fact released late in ’84). Anyway, I really liked this album back then, and even now, I enjoy listening to many of the individual tracks – partly because I think they’re just good, but admittedly also due to nostalgia. So many of them put me back in that place in the mid-1980s, esp. my favorite track from it, then and now, “Sunset Grill”: This album only just missed out on a place on my list, so it's nice to see somebody else pick it. There are so many good songs on Building the Perfect Beast. I mean, obviously "The Boys of Summer" is an all-time classic, but "Man with a Mission", "You're Not Drinking Enough", and "Sunset Grill", which you mentioned, are big faves of mine too. Ultimately, I don't find it to be consistent enough across its 11 tracks to have made my list, but when it's good it's really good.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 15, 2024 4:54:42 GMT -5
#2 - Phillip Walker - Tough as I Want to Be
This is another blues artist that I've not heard of. Listening to those two tracks, "Port Arthur Blues" can easily be dated to the early '80s by that choursy organ sound, but other than that, they are both fairly enjoyable "late night" blues tracks. Very much in the tradition of T-Bone Walker and B.B. King.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 15, 2024 4:35:23 GMT -5
OK, I've just about caught up... #2 - Purple Rain by Prince and the RevolutionPurple Rain was Prince's sixth album (though his first with backing band the Revolution) and was also a soundtrack to his feature film of the same name. This is another album that I saved up my pocket money to buy at the time, having absolutely loved the singles "When Doves Cry", "Purple Rain", and "Let's Go Crazy". This was without doubt Prince's catchiest and most focused collection of songs to date, which is, of course, a big part of why it was the album that transformed him from a reasonably popular American R&B artist into a global phenomenon. It takes in a far greater array of influences than Prince's previous albums, as the pop maestro effortlessly blends elements of soul, rock, funk, pop and even heavy metal across its nine tracks. The album's final three songs ("I Would Die 4 U", "Baby I'm A Star", and "Purple Rain") were all recorded live, though they received additional overdubs and studio polishing before Prince was satisfied with them. Standout tracks for me, aside from the aforementioned big hit singles, would be "Take Me with U", which is one of the most playfully seductive songs Prince ever wrote, the self-empowering "Baby I'm a Star", and the daringly risqué "Darling Nikki". The apocalyptic and spiritual title track is featured here in its full 8-and-a-half-minute version, which I recall was a bit of a mind blower for 11-year-old me, having only previously heard the 4-minute single edit. In terms of picking a song to showcase for this post, every track on Purple Rain is a total gem, but here's "Take Me with U" (a duet with actress and singer Apollonia). I've always loved the way this track swings and the playful romanticism of its lyric…
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