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Post by tingramretro on Jun 3, 2019 10:59:15 GMT -5
Paul Darrow, who played scheming psychpath Avon in the cult 70's British sci-fi series Blake's 7, has died aged 78. A sad loss.
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Post by tingramretro on May 21, 2019 4:20:10 GMT -5
Blakes 7 had all the principle characters gunned down in the closing minutes of the final episode. Just unforgettable. Simply one of the best series finales ever. What made it so great was that it was perfectly believable. You put half a dozen misfits with attitude problems together and pit them against a vast galactic empire; what, logically, is going to happen? Yep, they're all going to die!
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Post by tingramretro on May 21, 2019 4:17:41 GMT -5
The finale of Life on Mars was interesting. I only saw the US version, which was based on the British original. One line stands out in my memory: after they wake up in the year 2035, they're told, "President Obama wanted to be here to greet you personally, but her father is very sick and she and her sister are with him in Chicago." "Wake up in 2035"? Umm...sorry, but that is in no way based on the British version. Not remotely. Nobody got to wake up, in 2035 or anywhere else...
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Post by tingramretro on May 21, 2019 4:11:57 GMT -5
Not really the question you're asking, I know, but I thought the GOT ending was absolutely fine (no spoilers!). Admittedly, most of the big excitement happened in the previous couple of episodes, and I think that left some people disappointed. But after eight seasons, it was important to get the tone of the finale right, and a large part of the last episode was concerned with doing just that, while bringing the principal characters' stories to a satisfying end, which I felt it did. For me, the best book, film or tv series have endings that allow the story to live on in the audience's minds for years after the plot has ended. GOT achieved that I think; there wasn't a single main character who, at the end of the episode, I was thinking, "well, that didn't make sense", or "that was out of character", or "I wish that hadn't happened." The ending made sense thematically and brought the series to a satisfying close -- while leaving plenty of opportunity for a spin-off series or even a sequel, some years down the line (which I wholly expected it to do) -- and that was good enough for me. I tend to agree. I think a lot of people were expecting an explosive climax with lots of heroic action, deeds of derring-do and the obligatory happy ending with Jon and Dany hooking up and ushering in a new age of peace and prosperity for all, but that kind of thing basically wasn't what GoT was ever about. What we actually got made perfect sense.
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 13, 2019 20:01:31 GMT -5
I'm curious. I don't know if this is cultural stereotyping but sometime over these many years, I've gained the impression that the word 'bloody' is considered a far worse cuss word to the British than the examples given here. Accurate or no? It's been my understanding that "bloody" is the equivalent of "f'ing." "Bloody" is definitely a more severe swear word in the UK than it is in the States, and, yes, it is considered worse than "damn" and "hell". As a kid, "bloody" was definitely a forbidden word -- not just for me, but among my friends too. No way is it the equivalent of "f***ing" though, which is a full on expletive. "Bloody" is, according to my Chambers English dictionary, a mildly offensive intensifier, as in, "This weather is too bloody hot!" "F***ing", on the other hand, is a sexually derived piece of vulgar slang and considered much more offensive than "bloody". As for this thread in general, I can't imagine anyone I know or have ever known in Britain getting out of bed about a child using the terms "Hell" or "Damn". These are not swear words. And as tingramretro points out, both were fairly common in children's comics and pre-watershed TV in the '70s and '80s. Let's be clear about this though: neither "hell" or "damn" are actually expletives or pieces of sexual or vulgar slang. "Hell" is simply an intensifier, and "damn" is sometimes used as an intensifier, and sometimes as an interjection to express anger, irritation, contempt, or disappointment. The religious connotations of the word "damn" or "hell" are basically irrelevant in Britain. Hmm, maybe "bloody" is considered more offensive in some areas than others?
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 13, 2019 19:59:13 GMT -5
It's been my understanding that "bloody" is the equivalent of "f'ing." Uh...no.
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 13, 2019 19:57:50 GMT -5
I'm not sure most people these days consider "hell" or "damn" to be swearing. Certainly, British comics had characters using those terms in the 1970's, if not before. I'm curious. I don't know if this is cultural stereotyping but sometime over these many years, I've gained the impression that the word 'bloody' is considered a far worse cuss word to the British than the examples given here. Accurate or no? Not really, no. I don't think it's considered swearing at all, these days, though it was a mild swear word when I was a kid.
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 10, 2019 9:46:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure most people these days consider "hell" or "damn" to be swearing. Certainly, British comics had characters using those terms in the 1970's, if not before. Some of us do. They are religious terms being used in a casual, non-religious manner. I was reading Ian McGinty's recent series Welcome to Showside, which he has described as an all-ages book. The art is very cartoony/anime. But the first issue contains a prominent profanity and a scatalogical term in the same word balloon. Come on, dude. Are you making an all-ages book or not? (Nothing else like this occurs in the first three issues, which is all I have.) To be honest, there's nothing there that I wouldn't consider suitable for an all-ages book. As for "profanity", I'm not sure I can even relate to the concept, never having had any religious beliefs and living, as I do, in a society where an awful lot of people don't. "Oh my god" is just an expression, everyone uses it. I can't help thinking you're being a little oversensitive.
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 10, 2019 5:34:03 GMT -5
I'd also vote for Excalibur, but I'd expect Captain Britain to be team leader.
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 10, 2019 5:28:20 GMT -5
Inspired by @draketungsten thread on the modern board... So what is the first mainstream comic to use the word "hell" or "damn?" I assume that (A) undergrounds, (B) european, and (C) Japanese comics broke the profanity barrier first. (Zap # 0 (1968) has "Ah, your fullaf &*$^ you bitch" onthe first page.) I'd further assume that the culprit was a non-code-approved magazine rather than a four color comic. But I'm interested in the four-color comics, too! Non editorially approved, the cover to Ka-Zar # 1 (1970) supposedly has the f-word hidden on Zabu's back, but... yeah. I dunno if that's 100% intentional. Some thoughts: As intestine-draped as they were, I don't remember any profanity in EC comics. I'm poorly read in the Warren Magazines but from what little I've seen there wasn't a helluvalotta profanity there. My spotty/quick internet research backs me up on this. "Damn" and "hell" were used fairly regularly in code approved newstand delivered Marvel comics by the mid-1970s. These light curses mostly vanished in the '80s under Shooter. ( They were removed from newstand books altogether.) Although, conversely, DC didn't seem to allow swearing in the '70s but became much more liberal than Marvel in the '80s. If I remember right, Sandman (The Gaiman version) was the first American corporate produced regular sized factory system book to use the f with permission. Although it had to have shown up in magazines before that. I'm not sure most people these days consider "hell" or "damn" to be swearing. Certainly, British comics had characters using those terms in the 1970's, if not before.
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 10, 2019 5:23:11 GMT -5
So, having problems at ebay still, just different ones with a different seller. First I can't pay the same as the last time except the message as to why is different... We noticed a problem. Please review: your items.This seller didn't include shipping costs to your location.So I could've paid for four items... but not four others from the same person. Ugh! Never had this before. Then I try to request a total from the seller... We're sorry, but we can't complete your request right now. If you see this message more than once, contact us, and we'll try our best to help. Wait ten minutes... We're sorry, but we can't complete your request right now. If you see this message more than once, contact us, and we'll try our best to help. Try at ebay.ca... We're sorry, but we can't complete your request right now. If you see this message more than once, contact us, and we'll try our best to help. So I send the seller a message through one of the item listings and ask them for a combined total that way. Well now he says he can't do that and seems to blame me for not reading the listings! They said global shipping program would used. If this is cancelled I very well may quit the place in disgust and stick with the couple of places I order from without involving an ebay or other third party. I do not know why ebay is messing me up so bad. :^( Update: I have paid for five of the items, hopefully at least we can do business on those. The Global Shipping Program is a total pain. As a seller, I found out awhile ago that I'd been automatically signed up to it when someone in Spain bought items from me and asked for a combined invoice; I cicked to send one and got an error message saying the GSP was handling the sale and I couldn't offer postage discounts. Naturally, buyers assume this is the seller's fault!
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 20, 2019 10:06:15 GMT -5
Superman taking all his close friends to the Fortress of solitude was his effort to protect them from the relentless and coldblooded assault against him. Not at all like Night of the living dead. You could just as easily say it was inspired by any number of base-under-siege stories from 1960's Doctor Who, though. It's easy to draw parallels if you're looking for them.
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 20, 2019 3:41:12 GMT -5
There's a supernatural antagonist at the story's core with much greater power and agency than the main characters, the plot is 99% the same as Romero's Night of the Living Dead (The main cast is under siege in a deserted location and picked off one by one by an unyielding tide of enemies) and there's an actual frickin' zombie wandering around! To tell you the truth I am surprised I'm getting pushback on this. Moore's two previous Superman tales were literally "Superman has a terrifying nightmare (though the Swamp Thing tale I suppose, was technically more a frightening hallucination) and when you've got "fun" villains such as Bizarro, Mxyzptlk, The Toyman, and The Prankster torturing and killing people, I think its safe to classify his third entry under the horror label as well. I mean, "They am scream with delight"? Luthor's obvious anguish when taken over by Brainiac? That creature Mxyzptlk transforms into? The army of Metallos laying siege to The Daily Planet? Even the sense of hopelessness which pervades the tale - Superman's entire plan of action is "We'll hole up in The Fortress and maybe a few us will survive the night" - prepares the reader for the grimness to come. Could you imagine Julius Schwartz commissioning a Superman horror story from Moore to end his tenure, getting Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow, and then saying "You call this horror"? I'm with Reptisaurus! and Webster on this. "Horror: a very strong feeling of fear, dread, and shock. See; Alan Moore's Superman tales of the latter half of the 1980's". I'm afraid it never struck me as horror. It never particularly shocked me, either.
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 19, 2019 8:08:11 GMT -5
Read it again. I will wager money that this will be blatantly and blindingly obvious if you look at the tone, structure and pacing of the narrative. I was thinking more of Moore's work for American comics, which skewed strongly toward horror at this point in his career. I'm much less famiar with his British work. I think we have different ideas of what constitutes horror.
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 19, 2019 8:07:27 GMT -5
Moore's American superhero stories certainly had horrific consequences. Did they? They led to a lot of other writers creating some innovative new takes on characters which, in a lot of cases, I really liked.
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