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Post by tingramretro on Jun 21, 2017 13:55:23 GMT -5
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 21, 2017 3:21:06 GMT -5
As a kid, I had no interest whatsoever in McGregor's version of the Panther, but I absolutely loved the Kirby series-it was packed with wild ideas and fascinating characters (I still love Mr. Little). I thought his return to Cap was fantastic, too, the first Arnim Zola story remains a favourite to this day. I wasn't that keen on the Eternals, I have to admit; the first three issues or so hooked me, but for some reason after that my interest tailed off. And I never saw the point of Devil Dinosaur.
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 21, 2017 3:04:33 GMT -5
Fair enough, sorry for misreading you. No worries. Though it looks like I'm about to read up on Secret Empire regardless as here comes all the tie-in issues. As crossover events go, it's not really looking that major, TBH. Not compared to stuff like The Infinity Gauntlet, anyway. |
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 20, 2017 8:43:14 GMT -5
Chaykinstevens (it was the one I'd have gone for myself if I'd got there sooner; I then couldn't think of a better one)
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 19, 2017 12:34:32 GMT -5
News coming out on Carrie Fisher Good lord. This chick was partying hard until the very end. A shame. She was a troubled soul. |
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 19, 2017 2:52:13 GMT -5
Fair enough, sorry for misreading you.
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 17, 2017 15:39:15 GMT -5
But this is not the same situation as those other examples, it's effectively an alternate reality that's been created. As far as I'm concerned it's basically Captain America-Does-Age-of-Apocalypse, and AOA didn't have any long term effect on people's perception of the X-Men... Well, Hank McCoy never really recovered from AoA, so that's not the best example. Also, it's not really an alternative universe, it's just an alternate Cap (if you look atit that way) so it's totally different.. he's effecting things in the real Marvel Universe. I suppose the end could be one of those magic 'put everything back and forget it all happened' types, but even so, WE will still remember it. I can see where you're coming from, though. In what way did Hank McCoy never recover from AOA? |
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 17, 2017 0:35:53 GMT -5
Why? The whole central premise is that Cap is evil because history has been altered. Once history is restored, Cap would logically never have been evil! Well, that's one problem I have with this event, it's origin. I've read different versions or theories on what Kubik did that altered history or reality. The history that Cap knew is now 'false' and this Hydra version of history is 'true' or vice versa or something. It seems convoluted to me and gives me a headache. Then, there's the theory about Ultimate Cap and his possible appearance here. Then there's the whole underlying assumption that this is some form of meta-commentary on the current political climate which I'm not sure about. I've read some articles that suggest that some fans and certain retailers are ready for this event to be over with. I'm not sure how accurate that may be, for me though, I'm just not interested in reading it. After the long build-up of Steve being aged, stepping down and handing the reigns over to Sam, how Hickman utilized him near the end of his Avengers opus, I was ready and willing to give Steve another try when he became young again and instead got' Hail Hydra!'. It just drained any interest I had for it seemed to be a shock moment that's lead to this event that appears to be divisive in certain ways among readers and retailers. So you are basically basing yourjudgement of the storyline on fan theories and rumours, which is pretty much what I was complaining about people doing earlier. The only way to fairly judge a story is to read it and let it speak for itself. |
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 17, 2017 0:32:23 GMT -5
Why? The whole central premise is that Cap is evil because history has been altered. Once history is restored, Cap would logically never have been evil! Because it still happened. We know he was evil for a while... even if the comic says it didn't happen, or they just pretend it didn't happen (Like they did with the Crossing for Tony Stark, and, more recently, with Superior Iron Man), so it makes alot of things ring false. It also makes one jump at shadows.. any time the character says something even a little off, you get a 'here we go again' sort of feeling. It's bad... and I suspect it'll be even worse for Cap, whose whole purpose is to be the character that can't go bad. Now that they've done it, they can never undo it.. never time he gives one of those Cap speeches, it'll always be 'yeah, but what about that time...' in my head, even if the in universe characters don't feel that way. But this is not the same situation as those other examples, it's effectively an alternate reality that's been created. As far as I'm concerned it's basically Captain America-Does-Age-of-Apocalypse, and AOA didn't have any long term effect on people's perception of the X-Men... |
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 16, 2017 13:17:50 GMT -5
Alan Moore's Captain Britain (at least once a year since they were first published, I'd guess), probably followed by the rest of the Marvel UK CB stories, Dave Gibbons's Doctor Who, Infinity Inc, Gerber's Defenders, Englehart's Avengers, Moore's Marvelman/Miracleman, Watchmen, and the last half dozen issues of the 1970s All-Star Comics run. All of them multiple times. Also, a number of random issues of various books which I keep reading copies of by my bed just because for some reason they've stayed with me since childhood, including Freedom Fighters #11, JLA #171-172, Kamandi #58, Human Torch #8, Defenders #14, Avengers #177 and Crisis on Infinite Earths #6.
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 16, 2017 8:56:35 GMT -5
I've actually been quite enjoying it. I think it has received a lot of negative press from people who aren't actually reading it and are taking the central premise, that Cap has been a Hydra agent all along, at face value, unfortunately. As it is, I am finding it a solid, entertaining story that's pretty obviously going to end with a long awaited return to the former status quo, before Steve Rogers was replaced by Falcap. Or at least, that's what I'm hoping. I thought the preview was terrible.. muddy, unclear art, and what there was of a plot didn't make alot of sense.. It had just about every superhero in the MU in Washington fighting Hydra(well, not the X-Men, but everyone else), but just regular guys, and winning but not as easily as that maybe good guys should have. Then Cap arrives, and literally defeats everyone... including capturing one of Thor's hammers (Which shouldn't happen, since even if HE thinks he's not evil, the hammer surely should). Much like Secret Wars and Civil War II, when the event is based on a crappy premise, it generally peters out and leaves one wanting at the end. They're crazy if they think they can go back to the status quo after this and have people believe it, it didn't work with Iron Man (hence Riri) and it won't work with Cap. Why? The whole central premise is that Cap is evil because history has been altered. Once history is restored, Cap would logically never have been evil! |
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 16, 2017 2:03:02 GMT -5
I've actually been quite enjoying it. I think it has received a lot of negative press from people who aren't actually reading it and are taking the central premise, that Cap has been a Hydra agent all along, at face value, unfortunately. As it is, I am finding it a solid, entertaining story that's pretty obviously going to end with a long awaited return to the former status quo, before Steve Rogers was replaced by Falcap. Or at least, that's what I'm hoping.
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 13, 2017 8:33:14 GMT -5
At the moment, I am typing on this thread about the fact that at the moment I am typing on this thread about what I am doing at the moment. And I am quoting you about your ingenious plan to pad your post total as part of my ingenious plan to pad my post total. In fact, I was just feeling somewhat whimsical. |
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 13, 2017 6:17:06 GMT -5
At the moment, I am typing on this thread about the fact that at the moment I am typing on this thread about what I am doing at the moment.
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Post by tingramretro on Jun 13, 2017 5:23:13 GMT -5
Rob Allen
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