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Post by tingramretro on Mar 2, 2017 9:34:47 GMT -5
I remember Tales of the Watcher! They were reprinted as back-ups in Marvel UK's Star Wars Weekly. Along with reprinting old "Tales of the Watcher" strips from Tales of Suspense, Marvel UK also made their own for Star Wars Weekly. They would take an old, pre-Fantastic Four, moral heavy, sci-fi tale and frame it with a newly drawn Watcher cameo and, hey presto, a new Tale of the Watcher. They did the same thing in Doctor Who Weekly, substituting Tom Baker for Uatu. Doctor Who's Time Tales.
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 2, 2017 4:18:34 GMT -5
Iron Man was the only regular feature in Tales of Suspense from #39 to #48. Then a series called "Tales of the Watcher" appeared in the back starting with #49. Most of the Tales of the Watcher featured the Watcher narrating stories with twist endings like the horror/fantasy/monster stories that had been appearing in tales of Suspense from the beginning. Some of the stories were actually about things that happened to the Watcher. The last tale of the Watcher appeared in TOS #58. That's the issue where Captain America guest-stars in the Iron Man story. As of #59, Captain America was added to the line-up and there were no more of those 5-page horror/fantasy/monster stories. I remember Tales of the Watcher! They were reprinted as back-ups in Marvel UK's Star Wars Weekly.
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 2, 2017 3:17:08 GMT -5
Do you mean Creepy Worlds? One of the Alan Class titles? They were around for decades. Anthologies reprinting several short stories from American titles in black and white. Yes they could be the ones. I was trawlling the net last night and I see you can get them in condensed volumes. Still feels like looking for a needle in a haystack :-) Trouble is, Britain had a huge comics industry from the late 1800s through to about the early 1980s and a lot of it has never been propery catalogued. The sixties in particular saw an explosion of titles from random companies, many of whom were not primarily comics publishers.
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 1, 2017 13:50:11 GMT -5
I feel Delgado's Master was so much more subtle, sinister and evil than Ainley's version. You could see and feel the respect and sometimes fear that Pertwee's Doctor had for the Master. While I do love Ainsley's interpretation i thing without Delgado's original malevolent machination's to draw from Ainsley would just be over the top character acting. Delgado did suave evil better than anyone.
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 1, 2017 13:18:40 GMT -5
I have a sneeky that it could have been 'creepy', they were around at the time I believe. Was the format short stories etc ? Do you mean Creepy Worlds? One of the Alan Class titles? They were around for decades. Anthologies reprinting several short stories from American titles in black and white.
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 1, 2017 10:47:16 GMT -5
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 1, 2017 9:45:33 GMT -5
Roger Caesar Marius Bernard de Delgado Torres Castillo Roberto was born today in 1918, in Whitechapel. As the original Master, he was Britain's favourite TV villain until his untimely death in 1973. If only he were still with us, we could assist him in the destruction of humanity!
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Post by tingramretro on Mar 1, 2017 2:17:16 GMT -5
Just as an aside, because it's struck me as odd before: I have never actually heard anyone from a country with a nationalized healthcare system...or anyone not from the US, in fact...refer to it as "socialized medicine". It looks to me - once again, as an outsider to the US - like part of the completely emotional, i.e. irrational, American view of the term "socialism" and its derivatives. In American discourse its negative associations are almost impossible to overcome with many people, though Bernie Sanders seems to have made some headway in recent months. I've never really thought of the NHS as "socialist", though I guess it was founded on socialist principles. Same with the BBC and Britain's education system. I just doubt very much if anyone here actually thinks of them in those terms on a day to day basis. They're just a part of the country's infrastructure. And of course, as a part of society, we have an obligation to do our part in maintaining it through our taxes.
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 28, 2017 17:03:34 GMT -5
I'm still struggling to understand what you mean by positive or negative rights. Wikipedia explains it better than I can. I...see. I would have to say that I agree with the assertion in the final sentence, that the distinction is not valid. The whole concept strikes me as bizarre.
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 28, 2017 15:14:52 GMT -5
We don't have any inherent rights as people, not naturally. The very concept of a right is man made. We have a right to expect to be able to walk around without being randomly punched in the face because, as a society, we have reached a general consensus that we should not act in certain ways to our fellow man (or woman). We have a right to the protection of the law because we invented the concept of law for that purpose. Why is having a basic right to healthcare any different? I suspect this is simply about a difference in ingrained attitudes. You seem to feel it is natural to view healthcare as a product, as a commercial proposition. We over here just do not generally think of it in those terms. What about education? Is that a right or not? You're correct about rights being a strictly social concept and not "natural" in the biological sense. However, like most things in life, our perspective on what constitutes a right is based in whether you believe in positive or negative rights. It seems that you believe in the former while I believe in the latter, and that's perfectly fine. As to your point about education, I view it as an entitlement, though one where the general consensus isn't ambiguous. I personally am in favor of K-12 public education, though not for colleges. However, I can understand if someone else applies negative rights to education as well for the sake of ideological consistency. I don't want to derail this thread with abstract debates on what denotes rights and not, but I just wanted to throw in my two cents on the matter. I'm still struggling to understand what you mean by positive or negative rights.
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 28, 2017 15:13:20 GMT -5
The problem with defining healthcare as a right is that it involves a service provided by another at a fee, something that would be required if defined as a right. A consistent definition of a right means it can't impose positive obligations on someone else to be achieved. To that end, I think that healthcare is more of an entitlement than anything else. Electricity, natural gas, heating oil, etc. involve a service or product provided by another at a fee. But the providers can't cancel service during certain times of the year (winter) and have to go to regulatory boards to show why they have to raise prices. At least prior to the latest rounds of deregulation. Why? Because people can't bloody live without heat in the winter. Unless we want to hasten our descent into being a third world county. Hospitals are precluded by law from denying emergency treatment. Why? Because we don't want to be a third world country and have people dying in the street. So what we have, in practice, is incredibly expensive socialized medicine. Because people without health insurance use the emergency rooms as primary care providers. And they can't afford them. So your county tax dollars go to pay for indigent care. Really damn expensive care that could have been taken care of a lot less expensively if it hadn't been done in an emergency room. Just as an aside, because it's struck me as odd before: I have never actually heard anyone from a country with a nationalized healthcare system...or anyone not from the US, in fact...refer to it as "socialized medicine".
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 28, 2017 14:17:25 GMT -5
I'm sorry but I didn't understand a word of that. If you have a proper nationalized healthcare system, nobody pays any fees; everyone pays into the system via their taxes, according to their level of income. I don't really understand your definition of a right. I simply meant that I view a right as something that you have inherently as a person. Since healthcare is something external given as a product or service, I personally don't define it as a right. Sorry for any confusion! We don't have any inherent rights as people, not naturally. The very concept of a right is man made. We have a right to expect to be able to walk around without being randomly punched in the face because, as a society, we have reached a general consensus that we should not act in certain ways to our fellow man (or woman). We have a right to the protection of the law because we invented the concept of law for that purpose. Why is having a basic right to healthcare any different? I suspect this is simply about a difference in ingrained attitudes. You seem to feel it is natural to view healthcare as a product, as a commercial proposition. We over here just do not generally think of it in those terms. What about education? Is that a right or not?
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 28, 2017 14:00:30 GMT -5
I don't really understand how anyone could not prefer the state funded one. Healthcare, surely, should be a right for all in a civilized society, not being able to afford it shouldn't even be a consideration! And since we are all a part of society, of course we should all contribute to it. The problem with defining healthcare as a right is that it involves a service provided by another at a fee, something that would be required if defined as a right. A consistent definition of a right means it can't impose positive obligations on someone else to be achieved. To that end, I think that healthcare is more of an entitlement than anything else. I'm sorry but I didn't understand a word of that. If you have a proper nationalized healthcare system, nobody pays any fees; everyone pays into the system via their taxes, according to their level of income. I don't really understand your definition of a right.
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 28, 2017 13:21:37 GMT -5
Americans loathe higher taxes. It's in our nature. That would be a perfectly reasonable argument for a private health care system, but the invisible hand of commerce once again makes things complicated... Health Insurance companies and health providers are selling something people can hardly do without, and so make a killing (figuratively speaking, of course). Per capita spending in the US, when it comes to healthcare, is much higher in the US than in the other western countries; and because medicare and medicaid must face higher prices here than elsewhere, the net result is that the govenment still has to pay massive amounts... even without the population benifitting from universal access. The winners are not the taxpayers; it's the health care and insurance industries. The real peril with a state-run healthcare system is that like any governmental governmental operation, it can be mismanaged and become very inefficient. But that's a problem any new government can address during a new mandate, and meanwhile people still get access to care. As a Canadian, I pay more taxes than in the US, true. But during the past three years, my family enjoyed (well, "enjoyed" may not be the exact verb) two eye surgeries, two hospital treatments for mild heart attacks, one spinal surgery, one cancer surgery, one prolonged stay for septicemia and the assorted check-ups. For a grand total of not one cent. Even better, I know that my neighbours can receive the same treatment! Having lived under both systems and having received excellent care in both, I prefer the state-funded one. I don't really understand how anyone could not prefer the state funded one. Healthcare, surely, should be a right for all in a civilized society, not being able to afford it shouldn't even be a consideration! And since we are all a part of society, of course we should all contribute to it.
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 28, 2017 6:20:35 GMT -5
Health care shouldn't vary in efficacy and/or availability from state to state (as it often does now). There are plenty of governors licking their chops now in anticipation of block grants (read: free moolah) for Medicare. Why don't I think that will be distributed in an equitable manner? Variability in care is inevitable when you consider the inherent economic inequality between states. That exists even under Obamacare since healthcare providers aren't going to set up shop in most rural states since it's financial suicide. It's why you see so many people in those states seeking health care across state lines anyway. I don't understand why you lot have to make things so complicated. Why can't you just have a national health service which everyone funds through their taxes, like we do in the UK? It's simple, and it's fair.
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