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Post by tingramretro on Feb 26, 2017 12:34:01 GMT -5
Point #4: Don't give me that cameo nonsenseThe biggest reason I've been given over the years as to why #180 is not Wolverine's true first appearance is that it's a cameo. Here we seem to have a faulty conclusion attached to a truth. Wolverine's appearance in #180 is a cameo, as is Galactus' first appearance in FF #48. What seems to have no merit is the notion that a cameo cannot be a first appearance. This is simply not true. A graded copy of Hulk #180 (or FF #48) will state "1st appearance of Wolverine (Galactus) in cameo at end of story." This is accurate. A graded copy of Hulk #181 will state "1st full appearance of Wolverine." Also accurate and IMHO more accurate and informative than "2nd appearance of Wolverine." But it's not accurate! The character appears in a full length shot in #180, in which he speaks and is named. He also speks off-panel on the previous page. How can that not be his first "full" appearance? |
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 26, 2017 10:36:12 GMT -5
And covers have tremendous appeal. You have to purposefully open a book to see its interior. The cover is always there. But I'll also say that you are in a unique minority expressing an interest only in cover first appearances. Most fans who are clamoring over Hulk #181 don't think/feel like that. The first paragraph is why I'm so surprised that the second is true. But going into that opens a whole other discussion that is best left for another thread. For me, if it is clear the character is part of the story and I can clearly see them, that's a first appearance. So, #180 is Wolverine's first appearance. #181 is obviously the much more important issue, as first cover appearance, though.Why is it? I'm sorry, but I just don't see that. What's so important about covers? Namor first appeared in Marvel Comics #1, but did not appear on a cover until #4. Judge Dredd first appeared in 2000 AD #2, in 1977. His first appearance on a cover was in #5. In neither case would the first cover appearance be considered more significant. |
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 26, 2017 8:58:39 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but I have never understood why #181 is considered his first appearance by anyone. He is there in #180. He's named, he speaks, he is very obviously present in the story. It is clearly his first appearance.
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 26, 2017 8:23:46 GMT -5
Just read the 40th Anniversary Special, which is absolutely wonderful. New stories for old favourites Ro-Busters, Zombo, Durham Red and Nikolai Dante, plus Dredd and Sláine, guest appearances by everyone from Judge Death to Halo Jones, some beautiful artwork...a real celebration!
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 25, 2017 3:13:52 GMT -5
Two more from the 2000 AD stable:
Daniel McGregor Dare
Samuel Clarence Slade
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 25, 2017 3:05:38 GMT -5
My day is made. There is a God!  |
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 24, 2017 16:57:14 GMT -5
Always hated 'funt'. So much so, I now mentally translate it automatically without thinking. Funting funtwipe...  |
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2000 AD
Feb 24, 2017 13:30:01 GMT -5
Post by tingramretro on Feb 24, 2017 13:30:01 GMT -5
Loved Revolver though. An under-rated piece of class. The Specials (Horror/Romance) are amongst the best comics I've ever read. Most of the series never called to me, although I did buy the collection of DARE THE FUTURE. I rather liked Dare at the time, but looking back on it, it now seems somehow less clever and more just pointlessly mean spirited than it did then. I'm actually finding myself having that reaction to a lot of Grant Morrison's stuff these days. |
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 24, 2017 13:01:19 GMT -5
Drokk it, have none of you snecking smugfunts ever read 2000 AD?
(Judge Dredd also used to use "Stomm", but that appears to have gone out of fashion)
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 24, 2017 10:05:45 GMT -5
That's a question I've been asking myself for several years... Some connoisseurs I know will insist on purchasing the finest vodka... and then drown it in orange or tomato juice. Not that I would recognize a fine vodka if I ever had one, and I basically view it as little more than diluted ethanol... but how could the subtle aspects of a truly remarkable spirit not be totally overwhelmed by the onslaught of flavour found in juices and soft drinks? So true! If i am in the mood for a mixed drink or home made wine cooler i am definitely not spending my money on the premium/expensive finer spirits. A rum and coke is just fine with any regular old rum or Bacardi and i can enjoy a Jack Daniels and Seven-Up or Ginger Ale with a lesser wine fora crisp fizzy. To ruin a truly nice and incredible tasting alcoholic spirit i have never understood. My 15 year old Scotch Malt Whiskey is smooooth and doesn't need anything else for me to savor the flavor Diluting good Scotch with anything should be a hanging offence. |
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2000 AD
Feb 24, 2017 2:49:23 GMT -5
Post by tingramretro on Feb 24, 2017 2:49:23 GMT -5
Early Crisis was amazing. Lost it's way towards the end with the likes of the Real Robin Hood and Felini. Loved Revolver though. An under-rated piece of class. The Specials (Horror/Romance) are amongst the best comics I've ever read. Going back, I was also a big fan of Tornado. The Angry Planet was one of the greatest stories that should have been in 2000AD. Black-Hawk was terrific. Very disappointing when it went sci-fi. Yeah, fairly funny but you don't want a documentary on World War II to turn into Dad's Army. Wagner's Walk was an unusual but expertly written tale of German prisoners. The artwork to Victor Drago was inspired. Beautiful stuff. I liked Torndo, too, but it never really made sense that when the merge with 2000 AD came about, they quickly concluded Angry Planet, an actual sci-fi strip, and instead gave a historical strip a sci-fi makeover to make it fit! Wagner's Walk was very well done, though it's a shame they didn't just make the lead character Hellman. my favourite character, though, was Wolfie Smith. The only pieces of original 2000 AD artwork that i own are five pages...one complete installment...of The Mind of Wolfie Smith. |
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2000 AD
Feb 23, 2017 13:23:34 GMT -5
Post by tingramretro on Feb 23, 2017 13:23:34 GMT -5
I never collected the mag itself, but I was in London in the early 90s and read a friend's copies who had a lot of the series. I did collect the Eagle Comics and Quality Comics reprints as well as the Titan book collections of the strips I particularly enjoyed. I was there for the brief period when they were doing a more adult spinoff line. I skipped Revolver but I have the complete collection of Crisis, as well as most of the Euro one-shots. Crisis, I always thought, was a very underrated title. And it basically gave the world Garth Ennis, which is reason enough to appreciate it all by itself. |
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 23, 2017 3:25:58 GMT -5
From 2000 AD's Sinister Dexter:
Finnigan Rapunzel Sinister
Ramone Algonquin Winnebago Dexter
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 22, 2017 17:22:13 GMT -5
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Post by tingramretro on Feb 22, 2017 4:49:40 GMT -5
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