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Post by marvelmaniac on Jun 9, 2015 18:56:38 GMT -5
I am starting to keep track of actual eBay auction sales of the books I am looking for to get "real life" value but some of the "Buy It Now" prices seem to be off the wall, prices for the same book varies, sometimes greatly and some offer a "Best Offer". I understand that a Price Guide is only that, a "Guide", an average of the sales of that book over the last 12 month's and a seller can ask whatever price he/she wants but I would like to have an idea of a market value going in. Overstreet seems to be on the Low side compared to eBay so the question is... Does anybody here have any experience with either of these "free" online price guides and how close they may be to actual market value? comicspriceguide.com/www.nostomania.com/servlets/com.nostomania.HomeServlet |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 19:23:51 GMT -5
I reference comicspriceguide when buying back-issues, especially in higher grades. My most recent book of interest is listed there between this range F/VF 7.0 $528 VF 8.0 $924 comicspriceguide.com/collection/marvel/amazing-spider-man/17/ujqvmSo I placed a conservative bid at 35% of its 'lower' grade...around $185 or so, and got a third copy.  Having two other copies...I can afford to flip the 6.0 copy, get $200 for it, get all my money back and have enough change to pick up my new books tomorrow plus have a nicer copy of #17 in hand. Mind you, I think listed back-issue prices for 'A-titles' are high...compared to current day variants which retail on Ebay for considerably more than what they're listed for on cpg. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 9, 2015 19:53:48 GMT -5
E-bay completed listings. A lot of the "Buy It Nows" are a pipe dream, but you can see what actual people paid for comics using completed listings.
It's not perfect - a lot of Golden Age books may have no listings, ferinstance - but it's the best way to see what people will actually pay for comics.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Jun 9, 2015 20:33:16 GMT -5
I can afford to flip the 6.0 copy, get $200 for it, get all my money back and have enough change to pick up my new books tomorrow plus have a nicer copy of #17 in hand.  
Props! I wish I had your acumen, almost as much as I wish I had ASM #17. I've been getting by for a long time on Marvel Tales #12, which uses a Romita Goblin and a Ditko Spider-Man for its cover. It's a crude but effective job.
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Post by marvelmaniac on Jun 9, 2015 20:50:54 GMT -5
E-bay completed listings. A lot of the "Buy It Nows" are a pipe dream, but you can see what actual people paid for comics using completed listings. It's not perfect - a lot of Golden Age books may have no listings, ferinstance - but it's the best way to see what people will actually pay for comics. That is what I am doing now, keeping track of completed eBay auctions, however the books I am looking for are usually "Buy It Now" at what I consider "Stupid" prices. I am only looking for lower grade reading copies(FR-GD, even remainder copies of certain issues are acceptable)to complete all of my runs, never plan on selling them, that will probably not be the case after I am gone however. There was a rash of Pre-Hero JIM and Strange Tales on eBay last weekend and the prices they brought for lower to mid grade copies was staggering. I brought this up before, it seems like the Pre-Hero books(issues before the Prototype issues)have gone up in price 3-4 times over guide even for lower grade books. I have been watching and buying these books for 7-8 years now and it seems they have skyrocketed in price almost overnight. I understand they are old and scarce but why the sudden (past 2 years)increase in popularity? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 22:59:28 GMT -5
If you go to Mycomicshop, go to their auction page and find a listing of a book and click on it, there is a sales data tab. If you click on it it gives a history of all copies of that book in all grades that have sold through their auction going back 3-4 years. Granted it's limited to what they have sold in their auctions (which are fairly extensive though), but it is a fuller and longer record than completed listings on ebay, and gauges a market where actual comic knowledgeable people are buying not someone off the street who will take a buy it now price at face value. It's still an auction though, so sometimes prices can get out of whack in the heat of competition, but the long record of sales available points out the aberrations easily.
They also have a CGC census available, and you can add specific books to a want list and they will e-mail when one comes in to stock or auction, so if something isn't available now to look up, you can be notified if it does become available. If you use the view all auction groups link, you can link to older auctions to look for items that might not be up for auction currently too, but the auctions were small until about a year ago, when they really took off.
I much prefer cruising these auctions than trolling ebay these days.
-M
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Post by Randle-El on Jun 9, 2015 23:41:01 GMT -5
Completed eBay listings and mycomicshop are the two online resources I turn to when I want to get a sense of what a book's ballpark value is. The main drawback with online resources, at least with eBay, is that it's hard to correlate the value with the book's condition since you can't inspect the book in person. If they have pictures of the book, then you can get an idea. But there's still a possibility that it could be way off if you find a copy of the same book in very different condition.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 23:53:32 GMT -5
E-bay completed listings. A lot of the "Buy It Nows" are a pipe dream, but you can see what actual people paid for comics using completed listings. It's not perfect - a lot of Golden Age books may have no listings, ferinstance - but it's the best way to see what people will actually pay for comics. Yeah that's what I'd use. If I were searching for high dollar Golden Age comics I'd use Heritage and Comiclink completed listings, and the CGC census. If it's something particularly rare I might watch it for a year or more before buying. If it's something super rare that I think I may never see for sale again, and I really want it, I'll offer everything I can on it. |
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Post by marvelmaniac on Jun 10, 2015 5:56:27 GMT -5
I am only looking for lower grade reading copies, not higher grade or investment copies so with a book listed in Fr-GD I am expecting lots of "defects". Seems that the early issues of JIM and ST are not up for auction often on eBay/Lonestar/Comic Connect, etc. Lots of "Buy It Now" on eBay and Lonestar has them listed "For Sale",again at what seems to be ridiculously high prices. Perfect Example... I have been watching a JIM 27 in FR Condition on eBay for 48.99 Buy It Now. JIM 27 in VG just sold at a Sunday auction on eBay for $188.00.  Today the price of the JIM 27 I was watching was lowered to $42.00 with 5 people watching so I bought it before it was gone. Lost a Kid Colt Outlaw #12 in Fr-GD last week because I hesitated when the price was lowered. |
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Post by marvelmaniac on Jun 22, 2015 19:00:19 GMT -5
What I am finding is that the price guide on Nostomania seems to be closer to what auction books are actually selling on eBay.
I do not have an updated Overstreet to compare but New Kadia has the Overstreet prices in all grades listed for their books and I am "assuming: these are up to date.
Still watching auctions so this is still a work in progress.
One of the problems is that 70% of the books are "Buy It Now" with "Stupid" prices.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 0:35:26 GMT -5
You can filter those out of your searches. Whenever I'm looking for something that trends for over $2 or so I filter out BIN listings.
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Post by marvelmaniac on Jun 23, 2015 6:43:17 GMT -5
You can filter those out of your searches. Whenever I'm looking for something that trends for over $2 or so I filter out BIN listings. I am only watching auctions but auctions seem to be fading as they are few and far between. IE... Right now on eBay in Silver Age Strange Tales there are 4385 listings, only 240 are Auctions, that is 5.5%. Apparently sellers do not want what the market actually says these books are worth by actual bidders, they want or think they can get more. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 17:28:37 GMT -5
One of the problems is that 70% of the books are "Buy It Now" with "Stupid" prices. I once thought 'no harm' in negotiating a BIN price by sending a counter-offer when counter-offers weren't expressly invited. The most that can happen is its being ignored, or declined. I've saved over $600 this year by negotiating that way. |
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