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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 28, 2015 20:29:41 GMT -5
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 28, 2015 21:54:28 GMT -5
Wow, that could be very interesting.. if it includes Marvel and/or DC.
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Post by hondobrode on Jun 28, 2015 22:51:18 GMT -5
Wow !
I buy lots of back issues on Comixology as they come on sale.
For example, tomorrow's sale is Uncanny Avengers. I don't pay $ 4 a copy for hardly anything anymore, but I've picked these up at $.99 and will get a couple more this time.
I highly doubt Marvel will be included in this, and maybe not DC, but I could see the others doing it.
Doubtful this would have ever happened without Amazon behind them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 1:47:50 GMT -5
This could make me jump ship. They have a huge catalog and plenty of things I like.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jun 29, 2015 2:39:56 GMT -5
I've been wanting DC Unlimited for awhile now. The subscription model is the way to go for publishers like Marvel and DC who have vast back catalogs. It will be interesting to see if Marvel goes along with this, given that they have their own unlimited service.
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Post by Randle-El on Jun 29, 2015 10:38:24 GMT -5
Depending on pricing and accessibility to Marvel and DC's back catalog, I may go for this. I use Marvel Unlimited currently, and I think the pricing is fair and don't mind waiting a few months for the most current issues. My only gripe is that the image resolution is not as high as Comixology, which is using HD quality scans for all their books. If we can get HD quality scans and access to both Marvel and DC, I may jump ship from Marvel Unlimited and use Comixology for all of my current Big Two reading.
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Post by Trevor on Jun 29, 2015 11:18:34 GMT -5
As a lifelong collector it's hard for me to get behind a rental model.
I've ignored Marvel Unlimited even when they had a free three month offer.
But as I consider how much I spend, and how big my backlog is, I admit I'd be tempted to go "all-in" on these reading plans if it included DC. I'd probably even do a $30 a month plan where it was $10 for DC, $10 for Marvel, and $10 for everything else in a package deal.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 29, 2015 11:41:03 GMT -5
Sounds tempting to me.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 29, 2015 12:17:32 GMT -5
As a lifelong collector it's hard for me to get behind a rental model. I've ignored Marvel Unlimited even when they had a free three month offer. But as I consider how much I spend, and how big my backlog is, I admit I'd be tempted to go "all-in" on these reading plans if it included DC. I'd probably even do a $30 a month plan where it was $10 for DC, $10 for Marvel, and $10 for everything else in a package deal. Wow, No way I'm paying 30 a month. I expect it to be competitive with MU and Netflix and Spotify. They are around 10 a month. I would like it just to read some DC but I doubt Dc would make available much of their archives. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 14:48:22 GMT -5
I just recently subbed to Marvel Unlimited for a year and I am finding I like the experience. There are frustrations that certain things I want to read (older stuff not new) are not available, but there is so much available I can make due. If I had access to a DC back catalog like that, I would be very interested. If I could keep up with most of the semi-current Image, IDW, Dark Horse, BOOM, etc. output, I would be interested. A lot will depend on price and what is available. I decided to give up on new floppies last November and focus on getting classic stuff I want and keeping up on current series I really like via trade. Unlimited offered an alternative to the trades on the Marvel stuff and gave me access to a lot of stuff it would have taken forever to track down to read, so for now it's been worth it, and I will consider the monthly sub from Comixology to pay for access to a large catalog of stuff, but I am no ok with paying for access on an issue by issue basis, which is there current business model.
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Post by Trevor on Jun 29, 2015 15:04:21 GMT -5
As a lifelong collector it's hard for me to get behind a rental model. I've ignored Marvel Unlimited even when they had a free three month offer. But as I consider how much I spend, and how big my backlog is, I admit I'd be tempted to go "all-in" on these reading plans if it included DC. I'd probably even do a $30 a month plan where it was $10 for DC, $10 for Marvel, and $10 for everything else in a package deal. Wow, No way I'm paying 30 a month. I expect it to be competitive with MU and Netflix and Spotify. They are around 10 a month. I would like it just to read some DC but I doubt Dc would make available much of their archives. I hope you're right; but do you really think they'll quadruple the content and not at least triple the price? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 15:43:54 GMT -5
Amazon probably has the upper hand in the negotiations. Much the way Diamond does with physical distribution. So Amazon is probably pretty much saying "We're going subscription based at this price, you're either in or out."
And being the single largest digital distributor, also considering the fact it costs Marvel nothing to go along with it. It would really depend on how popular Marvel Unlimited is and if they think they can do better without Comixology, but my guess is they're excited to just abandon their own digital distribution model like they did many other avenues of distribution.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 29, 2015 16:22:30 GMT -5
Amazon probably has the upper hand in the negotiations. Much the way Diamond does with physical distribution. So Amazon is probably pretty much saying "We're going subscription based at this price, you're either in or out." And being the single largest digital distributor, also considering the fact it costs Marvel nothing to go along with it. It would really depend on how popular Marvel Unlimited is and if they think they can do better without Comixology, but my guess is they're excited to just abandon their own digital distribution model like they did many other avenues of distribution. I could see that as a win win, maybe even more so if they could broker a deal that included allowing their current users to be able to access the service until their previous subscriptions ended. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 16:32:20 GMT -5
Yeah it does allow Marvel to completely close a department of their company, which would save them money. Without knowing how profitable MU is though it's hard to say which is and isn't a better deal. But regardless, they don't want to be the only publisher not represented on Comixology.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 17:09:25 GMT -5
All depends on what operating costs are vs. revenue for Marvel. Is getting approximately 36% (average dollar share of direct market) of the revenue from a Comixology and eliminating costs more profitable than getting 100% of revenue minus operating costs for Marvel Unlimited, plus all the added traffic to other Marvel services like the Marvel store where you can buy Marvel merchandise, the print subscription page, the links to the current books offered individually at $4 a pop (again 100% revenue if through Marvel not a piece of the pie via Comixology) plus ad revenue from licenses advertising Marvel products on the Marvel site that gets all the traffic and hits from having the MU service housed there. There's a lot of ancillerary revenue Mrvel/Disney makes form having Marvel Unlimited on the Marvel.com site that is not reflected in the subscription price paid by customers. They lose all that as well as a good chunk of the monthly sub revenue by going to Comixology's monthly service. Is Amazon big enough to bully Disney into accepting terms they don't like? What happens if Disney pushed back and says give us better terms or no Disney related products will be sold to/distributed through Amazon? Could Amazon survive the loss of that much of their revenue base? Amazon is going to have to court Disney/Marvel into this, not force them. They don't have the leverage needed to make Disney take a deal that is not better than what they already have with MU.
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