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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 22, 2018 5:11:21 GMT -5
The infamous " boner" story ?
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Post by Prince Hal on Sept 22, 2018 7:52:16 GMT -5
The infamous " boner" story ? You are correct, sir!
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Post by Prince Hal on Sept 22, 2018 9:19:45 GMT -5
The infamous " boner" story ?
Yes. Trying to get the original Batman comics with the Joker...pretty much covered everything from 1962 up but THAT one remains to be seen.
And then there's #1...maybe when I get a bigger allowance.
It's hard to miss.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 22, 2018 9:44:34 GMT -5
How much of the original Suicide Squad is worth buying? I have about 20 issues between #1 and #55 and enjoyed them despite not having too many in actual succession. Outside of like 3 issues I don’t own they’re all resonably priced at Lone Star and I’m kind of in the mood to read something straight through with no waiting. But I want to get my money's worth and/or not buy any issues that aren’t that good. Same with Captain Atom. I’d be interested in reading more than what I own too. The first two years are fantastic; but, I think it is great the whole way through and they navigated the crossover messes better than many books (especially during Millennium). I thought Geoff Isherwood brought some fine art to the series, after Luke McDonnell. The whole Janus Directive crossover was a mess that disrupts things and it wasn't a particularly memorable crossover. I would second the recommendation of the Deadshot mini-series. As for Captain Atom, the first two years are very strong; not so much after, though I stuck with it for a while. By that point, it had settled into being an average comic book. The first year feels very original (in terms of the manufactured backstory and his dealing with it). Art is best while Pat Broderick was on the book. Once he left, my enthusiasm waned. All three Charlton Action Hero books were pretty darn good: Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, The Question. The Peacemaker mini-series was forgettable and Peter Cannon took forever to materialize, though it was fine, for what it was.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 20:24:44 GMT -5
All three Charlton Action Hero books were pretty darn good: Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, The Question. Totally agree with this statement. I loved what DC did with these characters post Crisis.
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Post by Confessor on Oct 26, 2018 11:46:19 GMT -5
^^ I wouldn't even notice that. I don't much like spine curl, but it has to get way, way worse than that before it'd bother me.
Fetishising over the condition of comics to that infinitesimal degree is just plain weird, if you ask me.
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Post by chadwilliam on Oct 26, 2018 18:28:40 GMT -5
Would you consider this a life-threatening spine curl? Saw someone drop the grade to VF just because it isn't absolutely flat (but can't that be sorted out with a couple heavy books?)
Shouldn't there be a certain amount of curl due to the fact that the spine is where the paper folds over on itself before being stapled? That is, comics are printed such that the first page is part of a larger sheet connected to the last, but folded over so that they can be read in proper order. Anyhow, I wouldn't recommend placing anything heavy on them since doing so might not only crease the spine, but cause the inner pages to be pressed outwards beyond the parameters of the cover. I noticed when I was a kid that stacking comics flat resulted in the first pages of the comic to stick out a little bit from behind the cover. A friend suggested that I shove some paper between each page and then put something heavy along whatever crease I was trying to flatten out (I always avoided putting any weight on the spine) and that seemed to prevent that problem. In this case, that comic looks absolutely fine to me (well, NM).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 12:11:44 GMT -5
We all know the Kingpin (Wilson Fisk) started out as a Spider-Man villain. Then Frank Miller made him one of Daredevil's villains and today he is thought of mostly as DD's enemy.
Has there been any other villains that have "switched" heroes as enemies for an extended period of time?
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 1, 2018 12:26:03 GMT -5
We all know the Kingpin (Wilson Fisk) started out as a Spider-Man villain. Then Frank Miller made him one of Daredevil's villains and today he is thought of mostly as DD's enemy. Has there been any other villains that have "switched" heroes as enemies for an extended period of time? A minor example. Jason Woodrue beagn his criminal career going up against the Atom -- twice in The Atom and once as part of a group of villains in JLA. He popped up once in a two-part GL back-up story and then had a run in Secret Society of Super-Villains before becoming a recurring character in Alan Moore's Swamp Thing as the Floronic Man.
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Post by MDG on Nov 1, 2018 12:30:56 GMT -5
We all know the Kingpin (Wilson Fisk) started out as a Spider-Man villain. Then Frank Miller made him one of Daredevil's villains and today he is thought of mostly as DD's enemy. Has there been any other villains that have "switched" heroes as enemies for an extended period of time? A minor example. Jason Woodrue beagn his criminal career going up against the Atom -- twice in The Atom and once as part of a group of villains in JLA. He popped up once in a two-part GL back-up story and then had a run in Secret Society of Super-Villains before becoming a recurring character in Alan Moore's Swamp Thing as the Floronic Man. You're not going to mention The New Guardians?
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 1, 2018 12:36:20 GMT -5
A minor example. Jason Woodrue beagn his criminal career going up against the Atom -- twice in The Atom and once as part of a group of villains in JLA. He popped up once in a two-part GL back-up story and then had a run in Secret Society of Super-Villains before becoming a recurring character in Alan Moore's Swamp Thing as the Floronic Man. You're not going to mention The New Guardians? I mentioned the SSSOV.To quote Doc Holliday in Tombstone, "Mah hypocrisy only goes so far."
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Post by Rob Allen on Nov 1, 2018 13:20:37 GMT -5
Sandman started in Spider-Man but joined the Frightful Four and battled the Fantastic Four for the next few years. Two of his teammates, Wizard and Paste-Pot Pete/Trapster, started in the Human Torch's solo series in Strange Tales.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 16:26:12 GMT -5
To answer my own question: the only one I could think of was Darkseid. He started as a villain for the New Gods but quickly became a villain for the entire DCU from Superman to the entire Justice League and even the Legion of Super Heroes!
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 1, 2018 17:22:08 GMT -5
Doctor Phosphorus started out in Batman; but, is hired by the Mist to attack Ted Knight, in Starman. In fact, Starman made great use of idle villains, including Copperhead, Ragdoll, and the Shade, who went from being a Flash villain (and member of the Injustice Society) to a major supporting character, in Starman (and a sort of hero).
Ultra-Humanite went from Superman enemy to foe of the JSA.
Black Adam is primarily the enemy of Captain Marvel; but, grew to become more, at modern DC, to the point of his own movie (still in development and I'm not holding my breath, the way they are going).
Dr Light was an Atom villain, who also took on the JLA, then became more of a New Teen Titans villain, before being retrofitted, by Brad Meltzer (and I'd rather have had the character in the hands of Marv Wolfman).
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 1, 2018 20:05:03 GMT -5
Dr Light was an Atom villain, who also took on the JLA, then became more of a New Teen Titans villain, before being retrofitted, by Brad Meltzer (and I'd rather have had the character in the hands of Marv Wolfman). You have that backwards. Dr. Light started out as a JLA villain (Justice League #12), then spent several years taking on individual members (Atom #8, Flash #171, Green Lantern #33) before taking on the whole team again at the behest of Doctor Destiny in Justice League #61. Later he took on Superman (Action #474), Superman and Batman (World's Finest #207), Batman and Supergirl (Brave & Bold #147), Aquaman (World's Finest #264), and the original Teen Titans (TT #44), had a return match with Flash (Flash #223), and took on the League again by himself (JLA #122) and as a minion of Earth-S's King Kull (JLA #123). His origin, which tied him to Hawkman, appeared in DC Super-Stars #14). Only upon founding the Fearsome Five did he settle in as primarily a Titans villain (Mew Teen Titans #3).
Cei-U! I summon the rapscallion's resume!
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