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Post by zaku on Sept 12, 2019 1:15:37 GMT -5
Wait! Wasn't PreCrisis Faora a psychopathic serial killer? Did she ever kill a fellow Phantom Zone prisoner while they were both superpowered? Yes, she was. I cannot recall her specifically killing one of her fellow Phantom Zoners, but in their first encounter, she was able to overpower Superman through her knowledge of pressure points. Superman fled before she could use "Dyr-Ynn", the called "Phantom Touch of Death", on him. While not conclusive, the story definitely indicates that both Superman and Faora believed that this would kill him. Thank you. Another problem is that, even we find an instance where a superpowered Kryptonian was killed by a brute force, this couldn't apply to Superman because, like Kal-El himself said...
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 12, 2019 7:49:34 GMT -5
Yes, she was. I cannot recall her specifically killing one of her fellow Phantom Zoners, but in their first encounter, she was able to overpower Superman through her knowledge of pressure points. Superman fled before she could use "Dyr-Ynn", the called "Phantom Touch of Death", on him. While not conclusive, the story definitely indicates that both Superman and Faora believed that this would kill him. Thank you. Another problem is that, even we find an instance where a superpowered Kryptonian was killed by a brute force, this couldn't apply to Superman because, like Kal-El himself said... Superman is so great. How can Slam_Bradley not love him
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Post by zaku on Sept 12, 2019 8:42:22 GMT -5
Thank you. Another problem is that, even we find an instance where a superpowered Kryptonian was killed by a brute force, this couldn't apply to Superman because, like Kal-El himself said... Superman is so great. How can Slam_Bradley not love him Well, sometime precrisis Superman's views could be... questionable... From the previous issue: So his first thought after he had knew this information was "A man-hater! It figures...", not "Oh My God she is a f@@@@@g PSYCHOPATH!!!!"... Ah, these pesky strong women who hate all men and want run their personal male concentration camp...
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 12, 2019 8:46:29 GMT -5
I'm not sure what your point is, It looks like he was just reviewing the facts.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 12, 2019 9:26:18 GMT -5
Thank you. Another problem is that, even we find an instance where a superpowered Kryptonian was killed by a brute force, this couldn't apply to Superman because, like Kal-El himself said... Superman is so great. How can Slam_Bradley not love him
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Post by zaku on Sept 12, 2019 10:19:23 GMT -5
Because opening a male concentration camp isn't a natural consequence of "hating man". It's a a natural consequence of being a PSYCHOPATH. They depicted her in the story as the caricature of early 70s' feminists. It was obvious the author' meta-message: "You see what these women want if we let them roam free? Concentration Camp for males!!!"
It's indicative that, while post-crisis almost every villain was depicted more exxXXXxxtreme and edgy, she was actually toned down, because her portrait of an angry man-hating nazi-feminist was, well, embarrassing.
ETA: and can you imagine the modern Superman saying something similar to "Of course! She hates men! This explains everything!"? I doubt it.
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Post by beccabear67 on Sept 15, 2019 12:51:48 GMT -5
" Riding around in that Stutz Bearcat, Jim, Those were different times." and the ladies, they rolled their eyes...
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Post by sabongero on Sept 15, 2019 15:44:25 GMT -5
This is basically a question about Wonder Woman volume 1 series. For the CCF members that have read them, which of these writers' run did you like?
William Moulton Marston Joye Hummel Robert Kanigher Dennis O'Neil Mike Sekowsky Elliot S. Maggin Martin Pasko Gerry Conway Dan Mishkin
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 15, 2019 22:04:15 GMT -5
This is basically a question about Wonder Woman volume 1 series. For the CCF members that have read them, which of these writers' run did you like? William Moulton Marston Joye Hummel Robert Kanigher Dennis O'Neil Mike Sekowsky Elliot S. Maggin Martin Pasko Gerry Conway Dan Mishkin Marston had some great ones, with a warped fair tale quality to them. Haven't read a ton of Kanigher but rarely hear them spoken of very well. O'Neil had some good stuff in there, as did Samuel R Delaney, who contributed, briefly. i liked some of Sekowsky's run, as writer and artist. After that, there are some decent issues here and there; but, a lot of just generic stuff. There are some good storylines, like when Jack C Harris had Oranna, another Amazon, become the new Wonder Woman, two decades before Artemis. Levitz had a few good ones, too. Pasko's were during the period when the JLA were spying on her,which was at least memorable.
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Post by zaku on Sept 16, 2019 1:47:11 GMT -5
This is basically a question about Wonder Woman volume 1 series. For the CCF members that have read them, which of these writers' run did you like? William Moulton Marston Joye Hummel Robert Kanigher Dennis O'Neil Mike Sekowsky Elliot S. Maggin Martin Pasko Gerry Conway Dan Mishkin At the time I read her stories from (googling) WW 243 to 280-ish (because I was a fan of the tv show ) so the writers should be Harris, Levitz and Conway. Unfortunately all that i remember is just a sense of general blandness about them. The only story that left some impression on me is when Mars takes power in Olympus and (after he consulted an advertising man from Earth) tries to make WW a villainess by stealing her bracelets. Oh, and for some reasons the team-up with Hawkgirl (perhaps for the panels where she changes her costume - hey, I was a teenager! ). Even the story where another Amazon takes the mantle of Wonder Woman didn't thrill me very much, perhaps because I already knew that after some issues everything would be returned to the status quo. Perhaps it's just my impression, but it seems to me that the WW's late Silver Age/Bronze Age stories aren't considered particularly memorable. Even her I-Ching period is more noted for its historical significance than the quality of the stories...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 6:11:32 GMT -5
The Wikipedia page for Fawcett Comics lists them as being active from 1938 to 1980. Yet the history segment of its page doesn't really go beyond the 1960s.
What were they doing up until 1980?
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Post by Cei-U! on Sept 16, 2019 7:59:36 GMT -5
The Wikipedia page for Fawcett Comics lists them as being active from 1938 to 1980. Yet the history segment of its page doesn't really go beyond the 1960s. What were they doing up until 1980? Fawcett dropped pretty much all of its comics line in 1953 (including all its super-hero and western titles), but did publish various Dennis the Menace titles through '80.
Cei-U! I summon the lone holdout!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 16, 2019 8:01:53 GMT -5
The Wikipedia page for Fawcett Comics lists them as being active from 1938 to 1980. Yet the history segment of its page doesn't really go beyond the 1960s. What were they doing up until 1980? Assuming you’re talking comics, since Fawcett Publications was a big paperback publisher, then primarily Dennis the Menace comics.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 8:53:56 GMT -5
Thanks, guys. The Wiki page was a little sparse as far as post-1950s is concerned.
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Post by MDG on Sept 16, 2019 8:54:43 GMT -5
^^^^^ There's also a period in the 70s where Fawcett is listed on the cover of Archie Comics. I think this may have been a printing arrangement, not something where they were involved editorially.
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