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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 18, 2019 23:12:23 GMT -5
I never watched an episode of Dr. who in my life but if you can't jump on to the series with any episode , then maybe it's too complicated for a new consumer. I'm looking at you Clarmont X-men...
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 18, 2019 23:52:40 GMT -5
I never watched an episode of Dr. who in my life but if you can't jump on to the series with any episode , then maybe it's too complicated for a new consumer. I'm looking at you Clarmont X-men... I've only seen a few and have never had that problem. Try "Blink," Season 3, Episode 10 and "Vincent and the Doctor," Season 5, episode 10.
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Post by rberman on Nov 19, 2019 1:00:36 GMT -5
What have you tried? Maybe one of us can suggest an alternative. I watched the first series of the relaunch back when it first aired, then An Unearthly Child and The Daleks more recently. The acting/writing's fine, and I could tolerate the shot-on-video look, but there are just so many episodes; I haven't a clue how to discern the wheat from the chaff. That's easy. Start with the 2005 soft reboot starring Christopher Eccleston. But if you want to watch the best of the original run, consider these: 1st Doctor: The Aztecs 2nd Doctor:The Celestial Toymaker 3rd Doctor: Day of the Daleks (because X-Men "Days of Future Past" is based on it. Plus UNIT) 4th Doctor: The Hand of Fear (a good Sarah Jane story, and introduces a concept that will resurface in the 10th Doctor) 4th Doctor: The Sunmakers (a satire on taxes and a good one with the barbarian companion Leela) 4th Doctor: City of Death (written by Douglas Adams, starring Julian Glover, with a John Cleese cameo!) 5th Doctor: Earthshock (Cybermen!) 5th Doctor: Mawdryn Undead (return of the Brigadier, plus a traitorous companion) 5th Doctor: The Five Doctors (the story is a muddle, but seeing them all together is fun if you've seen them separately first) 6th Doctor: Vengeance on Varos (a media satire) 7th Doctor: Ummm.... Dragonfire I guess.
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Post by rberman on Nov 19, 2019 1:04:37 GMT -5
I never watched an episode of Dr. who in my life but if you can't jump on to the series with any episode , then maybe it's too complicated for a new consumer. I'm looking at you Clarmont X-men... The original series was mostly 4-episode stand-alone stories. The new series, like most modern series, does have seasonal arcs, but any episode except a season finale either stands alone or is part of a two-parter. Some of my favorite episodes like "Blink" and "Love and Monsters" require zero knowledge and barely even feature the titular character.
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Post by berkley on Nov 19, 2019 1:59:57 GMT -5
I watched the first series of the relaunch back when it first aired, then An Unearthly Child and The Daleks more recently. The acting/writing's fine, and I could tolerate the shot-on-video look, but there are just so many episodes; I haven't a clue how to discern the wheat from the chaff. That's easy. Start with the 2005 soft reboot starring Christopher Eccleston. But if you want to watch the best of the original run, consider these: 1st Doctor: The Aztecs 2nd Doctor:The Celestial Toymaker 3rd Doctor: Day of the Daleks (because X-Men "Days of Future Past" is based on it. Plus UNIT) 4th Doctor: The Hand of Fear (a good Sarah Jane story, and introduces a concept that will resurface in the 10th Doctor) 4th Doctor: The Sunmakers (a satire on taxes and a good one with the barbarian companion Leela) 4th Doctor: City of Death (written by Douglas Adams, starring Julian Glover, with a John Cleese cameo!) 5th Doctor: Earthshock (Cybermen!) 5th Doctor: Mawdryn Undead (return of the Brigadier, plus a traitorous companion) 5th Doctor: The Five Doctors (the story is a muddle, but seeing them all together is fun if you've seen them separately first) 6th Doctor: Vengeance on Varos (a media satire) 7th Doctor: Ummm.... Dragonfire I guess.
I started with the 2005 reboot with very little knowledge of or nostalgia for the original series and found it very enjoyable, so that would be my advice as well.
My only real memories of Doctor Who were very distant and vague ones of having seen one of the Peter Cushing movies at the theatre as a small kid in the 60s. The tv show, we didn't get in my part of Canada until the 80s, and it seemed to be aimed at a younger age group than mine (early 20s) at the time, so I never really gave it a chance until it came back years later in the 2000s. I watched it pretty steadily until maybe two or three years ago when I kind of lost track of it, so I'll have some catching up to do if I ever decide to get back into it.
Now that I have gotten to know the show a bit, though in its rebooted form, I do feel some interest in looking back at the original series from the first year onwards, though I understand that a lot of the tapes were lost over the years, so not every episode is available. But I'd like to at least sample a few full stories or episodes from each series or each Doctor and definitely plan to try doing that some time in the future.
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Post by rberman on Nov 19, 2019 8:02:20 GMT -5
That's easy. Start with the 2005 soft reboot starring Christopher Eccleston. But if you want to watch the best of the original run, consider these: 1st Doctor: The Aztecs 2nd Doctor:The Celestial Toymaker 3rd Doctor: Day of the Daleks (because X-Men "Days of Future Past" is based on it. Plus UNIT) 4th Doctor: The Hand of Fear (a good Sarah Jane story, and introduces a concept that will resurface in the 10th Doctor) 4th Doctor: The Sunmakers (a satire on taxes and a good one with the barbarian companion Leela) 4th Doctor: City of Death (written by Douglas Adams, starring Julian Glover, with a John Cleese cameo!) 5th Doctor: Earthshock (Cybermen!) 5th Doctor: Mawdryn Undead (return of the Brigadier, plus a traitorous companion) 5th Doctor: The Five Doctors (the story is a muddle, but seeing them all together is fun if you've seen them separately first) 6th Doctor: Vengeance on Varos (a media satire) 7th Doctor: Ummm.... Dragonfire I guess.
I started with the 2005 reboot with very little knowledge of or nostalgia for the original series and found it very enjoyable, so that would be my advice as well.
My only real memories of Doctor Who were very distant and vague ones of having seen one of the Peter Cushing movies at the theatre as a small kid in the 60s. The tv show, we didn't get in my part of Canada until the 80s, and it seemed to be aimed at a younger age group than mine (early 20s) at the time, so I never really gave it a chance until it came back years later in the 2000s. I watched it pretty steadily until maybe two or three years ago when I kind of lost track of it, so I'll have some catching up to do if I ever decide to get back into it.
Now that I have gotten to know the show a bit, though in its rebooted form, I do feel some interest in looking back at the original series from the first year onwards, though I understand that a lot of the tapes were lost over the years, so not every episode is available. But I'd like to at least sample a few full stories or episodes from each series or each Doctor and definitely plan to try doing that some time in the future.
It used to be almost live TV, with new episodes airing 50 weeks a year. So there were hundreds of episodes just in the 1960s. Some of those are missing, but there are still many complete stories available. They used to be on Netflix. Then they moved to Amazon Prime. For some reason some that used to be on Amazon Prime last year are gone now, and apparently the whole 2005-present series is moving to HBO streaming at the end of this year. Not sure what that means for "Classic Who." I am not entirely up to date myself. I liked it well through the 2014 series (Capaldi's first turn as the twelfth Doctor) but have only seen half of the 2017 series (Capaldi's third) and nothing of the newest Doctor.
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Post by brutalis on Nov 19, 2019 8:08:43 GMT -5
That's easy. Start with the 2005 soft reboot starring Christopher Eccleston. But if you want to watch the best of the original run, consider these: 1st Doctor: The Aztecs 2nd Doctor:The Celestial Toymaker 3rd Doctor: Day of the Daleks (because X-Men "Days of Future Past" is based on it. Plus UNIT) 4th Doctor: The Hand of Fear (a good Sarah Jane story, and introduces a concept that will resurface in the 10th Doctor) 4th Doctor: The Sunmakers (a satire on taxes and a good one with the barbarian companion Leela) 4th Doctor: City of Death (written by Douglas Adams, starring Julian Glover, with a John Cleese cameo!) 5th Doctor: Earthshock (Cybermen!) 5th Doctor: Mawdryn Undead (return of the Brigadier, plus a traitorous companion) 5th Doctor: The Five Doctors (the story is a muddle, but seeing them all together is fun if you've seen them separately first) 6th Doctor: Vengeance on Varos (a media satire) 7th Doctor: Ummm.... Dragonfire I guess.
Now that I have gotten to know the show a bit, though in its rebooted form, I do feel some interest in looking back at the original series from the first year onwards, though I understand that a lot of the tapes were lost over the years, so not every episode is available. But I'd like to at least sample a few full stories or episodes from each series or each Doctor and definitely plan to try doing that some time in the future.
There isn't much in the way of Hartnell or Traughton episodes but everything from the 3rd Doctor Pertwee on is available. I have managed to record ALL of the episodes there are of the 1st 3 Doctors and have bought everything from Baker the 4th Doctor onward through all the new Who ending with Capaldi. There are interesting aspects within each series to pick up on and see as the series evolves.EVERY single Doctor has good to great alongside some really bad stories but you can find a story to like and enjoy just as you will with any long running series like Trek or B5. Waiting for the female Doctor series to go down in price though.
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Post by The Captain on Nov 19, 2019 8:09:41 GMT -5
I started with the 2005 reboot with very little knowledge of or nostalgia for the original series and found it very enjoyable, so that would be my advice as well.
My only real memories of Doctor Who were very distant and vague ones of having seen one of the Peter Cushing movies at the theatre as a small kid in the 60s. The tv show, we didn't get in my part of Canada until the 80s, and it seemed to be aimed at a younger age group than mine (early 20s) at the time, so I never really gave it a chance until it came back years later in the 2000s. I watched it pretty steadily until maybe two or three years ago when I kind of lost track of it, so I'll have some catching up to do if I ever decide to get back into it.
Now that I have gotten to know the show a bit, though in its rebooted form, I do feel some interest in looking back at the original series from the first year onwards, though I understand that a lot of the tapes were lost over the years, so not every episode is available. But I'd like to at least sample a few full stories or episodes from each series or each Doctor and definitely plan to try doing that some time in the future.
It used to be almost live TV, with new episodes airing 50 weeks a year. So there were hundreds of episodes just in the 1960s. Some of those are missing, but there are still many complete stories available. They used to be on Netflix. Then they moved to Amazon Prime. For some reason some that used to be on Amazon Prime last year are gone now, and apparently the whole 2005-present series is moving to HBO streaming at the end of this year. Not sure what that means for "Classic Who." I am not entirely up to date myself. I liked it well through the 2014 series (Capaldi's first turn as the twelfth Doctor) but have only seen half of the 2017 series (Capaldi's third) and nothing of the newest Doctor. Ugh. Didn't know about the new episodes moving to HBO streaming at the end of the year. Thankfully I already own the three Matt Smith seasons on Blu-Ray, but I might have to get the David Tennant-led season with Martha as the companion, if only for the brilliant two-parter written by Paul Cornell. I'm not a Rose or Donna fan in the least, and the Capaldi seasons were OK but nothing I'm clamoring to watch again, but I do like the convenience of being able to just access Amazon Prime and watch any episode at my whim.
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 19, 2019 9:34:26 GMT -5
I had no knowledge of Doctor Who beyond the reprints in Marvel Premiere in the '80s. but I had no trouble getting into the TV series when I jumped aboard partway through the Eccleston run. I stuck with it through Tennant and Smith, but haven't seen any of it since (mostly because I cut my cable lineup to the bone and no longer get BBC Merica). I enjoyed all of it. The original run, however, I find unwatchable no matter who plays The Doctor. Too primitive and inane, like an Irwin Allen show with a $1.95 budget per episode.
Cei-U! I summon the Tardis!
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Post by badwolf on Nov 19, 2019 10:41:24 GMT -5
I watched the first series of the relaunch back when it first aired, then An Unearthly Child and The Daleks more recently. The acting/writing's fine, and I could tolerate the shot-on-video look, but there are just so many episodes; I haven't a clue how to discern the wheat from the chaff. 7th Doctor: Ummm.... Dragonfire I guess. Remembrance of the Daleks The Curse of Fenric Survival
Ghost Light is also great but maybe not best for a new viewer.
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Post by Rob Allen on Nov 19, 2019 11:17:53 GMT -5
While I certainly enjoy and appreciate the talents of Larry Fine, it's a shame that the world never got to see the Howard brothers - Moe, Shemp, and Curly - perform as a trio.
There, I said it.
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Post by brianf on Nov 19, 2019 12:28:09 GMT -5
While I certainly enjoy and appreciate the talents of Larry Fine, it's a shame that the world never got to see the Howard brothers - Moe, Shemp, and Curly - perform as a trio. There, I said it. We got a cameo at least
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Post by beccabear67 on Nov 19, 2019 13:06:11 GMT -5
I feel bad for Jerome/Curly because he got fans hitting him in real life thinking it would be funny. He had a bad time. He was, I think, very good looking when not playing Curly. Below are the three out of character... Doctor Who: I would do the run that 'broke' the show in the U.S. with the college age viewers... Tom Baker in Ark In Space onward until it gets obviously cutesy-jokey-gueststary. The Phillip Hinchcliffe as producer years are considered the highest point in terms of the quality of writing. I have most of the DVDs up to Eccleston's year and then that's it for me, though I have watched others, and I have skipped the entire Colin Baker run and most of the first season with Sylvester McCoy. Also avoid the one Hartnell story The Gunfighters unless you like bad musical comedy. If you enjoy the Tom Baker Doctor enough the Jon Pertwee years just before him are similarly decent starting with Spearhead From Space. What ruins the show is when someone is in charge who sees it all as a joke to send up. Eccentric and written around the low budget you can have some surprisingly good programmes, but when it gets overdone or over-involved in fannish continuity with hammy acting it's utter crap. I say this as a fairly hardcore afantic with stacks of the fan mags from the late '80s to a smattering of present day little digest thingies.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 19, 2019 13:56:32 GMT -5
1984's Dune Encyclopedia is a much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much better and genuine-sounding companion to Frank Herbert's Dune novels than the later books by Herbert's son and by Kevin Anderson could ever hope to be.
There. I said it!
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Post by rberman on Nov 19, 2019 14:20:16 GMT -5
1984's Dune Encyclopedia is a much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much better and genuine-sounding companion to Frank Herbert's Dune novels than the later books by Herbert's son and by Kevin Anderson could ever hope to be. Along parallel lines, I've enjoyed J.E.A. Tyler's "A Tolkien Companion" encyclopedia for many years. It's been revised a couple of times, most recently 2012. Karen Wynn Fonstad's "Atlas of Middle Earth" has great maps showing where each person was on each day of the year during the journeys of both The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.
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