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Post by beccabear67 on Jan 25, 2019 12:12:57 GMT -5
Badfinger/The Iveys/Pete Ham demos: what are the titles of those? I have a Pete Ham one, forget the name of it now. Definitely interested in any Badfinger demos I could find.
There have been three CD sets of Pete Ham demos (that I know of anyway), a 2 CD set is titled Keyhole Street, and another is 7 Park Avenue and another Golders Green. Also a CD that came with the book 'Without You' had some rarities, and extra tracks added to the CD versions of some of the original albums (and an entire unreleased album that would've followed Wish You Were Here titled Head First). On top of that there have been unreleased pre-Badfinger Iveys recordings and demos on some various artists Apple compilation CDs: 94 Baker Street (The Pop-Psych Sounds Of The Apple Era 1967-1969), An Apple A Day (More Pop-Psych Sounds from the Apple Era 1967-69), and Treacle Toffee World (Further Pop-Psych From The Apple Era 1967-69). There've also been some unofficial Ivery/Badfinger demos and unreleased collections with variable sound quality, I've heard a couple of them, probably not worth finding anymore if they ever were.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 25, 2019 12:53:00 GMT -5
Ya know what's fun. Coming across an incredibly solid album that doesn't really have any hits on it that is largely forgotten. I ended up listening to Hank Thompson's 1959 LP Songs for Rounders. Just a great album solid from top to bottom but without a hit single to be seen. It includes a relatively early version of "Cocaine Blues" best known from Cash's Live at Folsom Prison. If you love country honky-tonk and western swing this is one to seek out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 10:48:29 GMT -5
As a metal fan, I know there'll always be debates about what is metal, who is metal, etc. (Some argue Deep Purple are a metal band, others argue they aren't). Of course, there'd be no metal if there hadn't been rock. And there would not have been rock without blues. Using an evolutionary analogy, metal evolved from rock and blues. But the debates will always be a thing. 1969 seems to be the year in which many believed metal began. And UK magazine Metal Hammer has a "50 Years of Metal" issue on sale now:
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Post by Confessor on Feb 3, 2019 12:18:50 GMT -5
Just realised that it's 60 years ago today that Buddy Holly died. I love Buddy Holly a lot. He's my favourite '50s Rock 'n' Roller by far. He was a fantastic singer-songwriter and, of course, hugely influential, having changed the course of rock/pop music by the tender age of 22. Forget Elvis, Holly is the real "King of Rock 'n' Roll", as far as I'm concerned. Here's an acoustic version of his song "Not Fade Away", which I recorded some years back, as a little tribute to the man... soundcloud.com/weathertop-preachers/not-fade-away
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 3, 2019 16:35:43 GMT -5
Unfortunately perhaps I saw some of the post-crash photos (Buddy & Ritchie Valens didn't seem to have a scratch though by the way, still in what they wore on stage that last night) and I see those and it makes the loss sadder. What a horrible tour that set up was, it was truly criminal by the point a drummer got hospitalized for frostbite on that bus! This is why Buddy thought to get a plane at all. So much music was still to come from he and Ritchie, they even finished off some of Buddy's home demos and had charting singles, especially in England. J.P. (Big Bopper) Richardson wrote the hits White Lightnin', Running Bear Loves Little White Dove, as well as Chantilly Lace, but they would be hits for others. Ritchie spend some time unexpectedly with a family in Vancouver B.C. when weather cancelled plane flights. They were devastated like so many that he was killed so young. Ricardo Valensuela the pride of Pacoima! Buddy & Ritchie both played Fenders. Dick Dale was a friend of Ritchie's and also preferred Fenders. Also no Crickets there'd be no Beatles (at least not quite as we know them and named something else). Also, as The Quarrymen, John, Paul & George were first recorded playing That'll Be The Day at a small home studio in Liverpool, 1958. Buddy with Fender, and Waylon Jennings... inkhornterm.blogspot.com/2007/02/1959-buddy-holly-slippin-and-slidin.html
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Post by berkley on Feb 3, 2019 22:56:38 GMT -5
Badfinger/The Iveys/Pete Ham demos: what are the titles of those? I have a Pete Ham one, forget the name of it now. Definitely interested in any Badfinger demos I could find.
There have been three CD sets of Pete Ham demos (that I know of anyway), a 2 CD set is titled Keyhole Street, and another is 7 Park Avenue and another Golders Green. Also a CD that came with the book 'Without You' had some rarities, and extra tracks added to the CD versions of some of the original albums (and an entire unreleased album that would've followed Wish You Were Here titled Head First). On top of that there have been unreleased pre-Badfinger Iveys recordings and demos on some various artists Apple compilation CDs: 94 Baker Street (The Pop-Psych Sounds Of The Apple Era 1967-1969), An Apple A Day (More Pop-Psych Sounds from the Apple Era 1967-69), and Treacle Toffee World (Further Pop-Psych From The Apple Era 1967-69). There've also been some unofficial Ivery/Badfinger demos and unreleased collections with variable sound quality, I've heard a couple of them, probably not worth finding anymore if they ever were. Thanks, didn't know about most of those. I have some hunting to do now. I read that Badfinger book but my copy didn't have any cd with it.
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Post by berkley on Feb 3, 2019 22:57:50 GMT -5
Just realised that it's 60 years ago today that Buddy Holly died. I love Buddy Holly a lot. He's my favourite '50s Rock 'n' Roller by far. He was a fantastic singer-songwriter and, of course, hugely influential, having changed the course of rock/pop music by the tender age of 22. Forget Elvis, Holly is the real "King of Rock 'n' Roll", as far as I'm concerned. Here's an acoustic version of his song "Not Fade Away", which I recorded some years back, as a little tribute to the man... soundcloud.com/weathertop-preachers/not-fade-awayThat compares favourably with the best Buddy Holly covers I've heard. First rate stuff.
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 4, 2019 0:46:21 GMT -5
Nicely propulsive.
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Post by brianf on Feb 4, 2019 6:16:26 GMT -5
As a metal fan, I know there'll always be debates about what is metal, who is metal, etc. (Some argue Deep Purple are a metal band, others argue they aren't). As a fan of early / proto metal & Deep Purple, I dunno what else you would call this from 1970
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 9:54:25 GMT -5
Erm, I'll call that something, erm, very loud.
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Post by brianf on Feb 4, 2019 17:48:55 GMT -5
Erm, I'll call that something, erm, very loud. Have you ever heard Sir Lord Baltimore? Their 1st LP from 1970 is pounding for its time. One of New Yorks finest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 19:00:24 GMT -5
I have, thank you.
"Helter Skelter" by the Beatles is quote loud for its time. Is it metal? No, but if someone wants to call it metal (or refer to the Kinks as metal), well I guess it's all good fun...
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 5, 2019 12:37:55 GMT -5
Just realised that it's 60 years ago today that Buddy Holly died. I love Buddy Holly a lot. He's my favourite '50s Rock 'n' Roller by far. He was a fantastic singer-songwriter and, of course, hugely influential, having changed the course of rock/pop music by the tender age of 22. Forget Elvis, Holly is the real "King of Rock 'n' Roll", as far as I'm concerned. Here's an acoustic version of his song "Not Fade Away", which I recorded some years back, as a little tribute to the man... soundcloud.com/weathertop-preachers/not-fade-awayI've been listening to a lot of Buddy and the Crickets. Rave On is 1:47 long. An almost perfect song in less than two minutes. Phenomenal.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 5, 2019 22:15:47 GMT -5
Just realised that it's 60 years ago today that Buddy Holly died. I love Buddy Holly a lot. He's my favourite '50s Rock 'n' Roller by far. He was a fantastic singer-songwriter and, of course, hugely influential, having changed the course of rock/pop music by the tender age of 22. Forget Elvis, Holly is the real "King of Rock 'n' Roll", as far as I'm concerned. Here's an acoustic version of his song "Not Fade Away", which I recorded some years back, as a little tribute to the man... soundcloud.com/weathertop-preachers/not-fade-awayI've been listening to a lot of Buddy and the Crickets. Rave On is 1:47 long. An almost perfect song in less than two minutes. Phenomenal. I was listening to Buddy Holly just last night. I have an original pressing of The Buddy Holly Story album from 1959, and the wife and I were listening to that. This was the first LP compilation of Holly's material to be released, and it was rushed out in the months after his death as a bit of a cash-in. "Rave On" is an absolute classic track. Although, Holly didn't actually write that one, of course. It's such an exciting record though -- right from that opening waver-y, hicupp-y first word, "We-uh-he-uh-ell...". Then the first verse comes thundering in. Great stuff! It was actually a much bigger hit over here in the UK (I believe it was Top 5) than it was in the States, back in 1958. Much like a lot of Holly's later singles were. As I'm sure you know, a lot of records from back then had to be really short in order to get played on radio. Really, it wasn't until the mid-to-late '60s that AM radio in the States and the BBC over here would play a record over 2 and a half minutes long. I've read that The Beach Boys' "Good Vibrations", which was 3:35 in length, was one of the first singles to break the 3 minute mark and get a lot of airplay on both sides of the Atlantic. The Beatles' "Hey Jude" (which was 7 minutes plus) from 1968 was another single that loosened up what mainstream radio would play, in terms of the length of a track. Of course, in the mid-to-late 60s FM radio in the U.S., and pirate radio stations like Radio Caroline or Radio London over here, would often play really long album tracks (which was part of the appeal of those stations).
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 6, 2019 1:25:37 GMT -5
I was listening to Buddy Holly just last night. I have an original pressing of The Buddy Holly Story album from 1959, and the wife and I were listening to that. This was the first LP compilation of Holly's material to be released, and it was rushed out in the months after his death as a bit of a cash-in. My dad has that bought from when it was new, the American edition of it anyway, also on Coral. He also has another post-death LP titled 'Holly In the Hills' that has some early pre-rock stuff with Bob Montgomery, and from when he was alive That'll Be The Day on Decca (U.S.). He also has the Del-Fi Ritchie Valens LP from when he was still alive, a really great album it is too with Come On Let's Go and Dooby Dooby Wah being as good as the two big hit songs (here's the back of it, fender in hands)... Some of the best documentaries about Buddy were made for British TV... I saw a great one they showed under the Arena banner with his brother interviewed along with all the Crickets! I've never seen one on Ritchie, there should be one, the bio-films for both were awful in my opinion (excepting Los Lobos' part in the one which is the only really good thing), and the Big Bopper was an interesting dude too. He was only on the plane because he had gotten a cold or the flu and was thought too ill for the freezing bus.
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